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View Poll Results: Which one should i do?
EZ Wiring 14 40.00%
Hot Rod Wiring 1 2.86%
Painless Piring -Pickup 18 51.43%
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:14 PM   #26
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Re: Complete rewiring

FYI. I just checked Rockauto and theirs is at $459.79 which is average, but still cheaper than buying it direct. They'll probably charge you shipping. If this is the kit you decide on, just search ebay #510089 and you'll find it for that price with free shipping.
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:18 PM   #27
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Re: Complete rewiring

AAW excellent quality and great instructions lead me to an easy weekend install.
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Old 01-23-2012, 04:44 PM   #28
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Re: Complete rewiring

Unless you want to take it in the shorts *no pun intended* go with any company OTHER than Painful Products.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:10 PM   #29
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Re: Complete rewiring

485 after shipping
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:10 PM   #30
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Re: Complete rewiring

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FYI. I just checked Rockauto and theirs is at $459.79 which is average, but still cheaper than buying it direct. They'll probably charge you shipping. If this is the kit you decide on, just search ebay #510089 and you'll find it for that price with free shipping.
485 after shipping on Rock auto

458.15 on ebay + free shipping
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:12 PM   #31
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Re: Complete rewiring

another vote for AAW. i used the EZ, but i did alot of modification & an engine swap. if your just replacing it AAW all day long. i wish i would have went with them.
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Old 01-23-2012, 06:17 PM   #32
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Re: Complete rewiring

yall have sold me on AAW.... Now Sell my wife on letting me buy it
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Old 01-23-2012, 07:58 PM   #33
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Re: Complete rewiring

I have used the EZ wiring harness and thought it was easy to do I really liked it due to all the wires being laser marked every foot or so there was no mix ups
I bought a Hot rod wires from a board member for my current truck. It looks nice but yet to be installed.
Everyone says AAW is great, and by the replys you see here I would not be afraid to buy one of there kits
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:20 PM   #34
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i was going to rewire my 68 and was wondering if AAW is marked on the wires like EZ wiring is? thanks
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Old 01-23-2012, 09:48 PM   #35
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i was going to rewire my 68 and was wondering if AAW is marked on the wires like EZ wiring is? thanks
AAW is the closest thing you will find to NOS. It is identical in every way to the OEM harness. Plug and Play.
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:08 PM   #36
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Doing it all myself. Just ordered new cab mounts so id like to tackle both of these at the same time while everythings going back together



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Old 01-23-2012, 10:24 PM   #37
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Re: Complete rewiring

I did a search on this subject about a week ago after seeing the ez kit on Ebay for under $175. From the different posts I read everyone who used the ez kit was happy with it and felt it would have been unnecessary to spend 2-3x the money on a painless kit or something similar in that price range. I think maybe it might be something similar to buying a Monster hdmi cable for $100 when a no name $10 cable will perform just as well.
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Old 01-23-2012, 10:40 PM   #38
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Re: Complete rewiring

My thoughts:

I did AAW and it was easy...so easy I bought another kit for my crew. I read posts on how others bought a generic kit and were having issues getting the right terminals/fittings, etc.

However, it was so easy I wonder if using a generic kit would be easy, too...especially after having already rewired with an AAW kit. Plus, having the original wiring harness to steal terminals from and cross check with makes it appealing to buy a generic kit to save some cash!
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Old 01-24-2012, 01:31 AM   #39
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From the different posts I read everyone who used the ez kit was happy with it and felt it would have been unnecessary to spend 2-3x the money on a painless kit or something similar in that price range.
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having the original wiring harness to steal terminals from and cross check with makes it appealing to buy a generic kit to save some cash!
This is the one thing that keeps messing with my head, I do not NEED any of the above listed products. My truck fires up and runs from Houston to New Orleans as it sits now. Every exterior light i have fixed, the interior lights i havent bothered with. That being said the tail lights are fixed with 7 twist on connectors and any color autozone wire i had in the garage at the time, the electric fans is running black wire spliced to a red wire spliced to a yellow spliced to a black, the starter wire is half green and two colors red. I REALLY WANT the above mentioned products to clean all this jumble, But is splicing an EZ wiring kit into 30 year old terminals and such really an improvement from what i already have? or for the extra 200 bucks get new terminals connectors and such which i dont really need but are already built into the wiring? I say yea if your going thru the whole re wire process why not re wire all of it beginning to end. Its not like they sell a 3/4 length wire kit where you have to provide the last 12 inches to reach the wires destination, so why buy one that needs the last 3 inches where whatever terminals and connectors or socket rests and have brand new wiring running 30 year old sockets and bulbs that will just end up burning up sooner than later and have to be spliced replaced (by more random autozone wire)
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:35 AM   #40
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Re: Complete rewiring

Only my $0.02 worth. Clear up some confusion first. Connector = the plastic housing. Terminal = the actual contact. My point: If you feel you have the skills, the E-Z harness has more than enough wire length to accommodate new (terminals), not to mention, it's a lot less $$$. The real objective is to replace all that 40 year old, brittle wiring. Most of the actual terminals are Packard 56 and can be found a lot of places. Mostly depends on the time and patience. I tend to be ANAL, so I spend way too much time on little stuff. I also take the time to install multi-pin disconnects on each major branch of circuits. I do this so I can mount the panel without wrestling all those bundles of wire. Mount the fuse panel, then run each major branch individually.
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:55 AM   #41
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I think the extra $200 is well spent knowing that it's been done right the first time. Not that using anything less isn't, but the piece of mind knowing that everything is replaced with a new piece is there.
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Old 01-24-2012, 02:44 PM   #42
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Regardless, you'll be using new terminals. The plastic housings don't matter so much. Having new wiring that isn't brittle is the "Plus"....less chance of shorts and in some cases less chance of fire.

Also, when you rewire you can run relays for the headlights, horn, etc... You'll get more "juice" to where you need it and have less chance of burnouts/fire/shorts, etc. It happens...
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Old 01-24-2012, 07:51 PM   #43
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From what I have read it sounds like you have done all the hard stuff with lights, etc. If it was me I would get some good wire and terminals and update the engine compartment. Use the MadElectrical.com method and you will end up with a better system for upgrading, aftermarket accessories, brighter lights, etc. I can't remember if you have an internal regulated alt. but that works great with this system. You can't get stuff from them last I heard but look for good sxl wire (higher temp) and quality connectors and junction blocks from old GM stock that came on 70s-80s vehicles. The part # is 10098794 and you can find them in junk yards but they are only $2-3 bucks and I bought my dealer out a while back. I did this on my 72 3/4 ton and Camaro and it works great.
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Old 01-24-2012, 08:01 PM   #44
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This is the one thing that keeps messing with my head, I do not NEED any of the above listed products. My truck fires up and runs from Houston to New Orleans as it sits now. Every exterior light i have fixed, the interior lights i havent bothered with. That being said the tail lights are fixed with 7 twist on connectors and any color autozone wire i had in the garage at the time, the electric fans is running black wire spliced to a red wire spliced to a yellow spliced to a black, the starter wire is half green and two colors red. I REALLY WANT the above mentioned products to clean all this jumble, But is splicing an EZ wiring kit into 30 year old terminals and such really an improvement from what i already have? or for the extra 200 bucks get new terminals connectors and such which i dont really need but are already built into the wiring? I say yea if your going thru the whole re wire process why not re wire all of it beginning to end. Its not like they sell a 3/4 length wire kit where you have to provide the last 12 inches to reach the wires destination, so why buy one that needs the last 3 inches where whatever terminals and connectors or socket rests and have brand new wiring running 30 year old sockets and bulbs that will just end up burning up sooner than later and have to be spliced replaced (by more random autozone wire)
I initially had purchased the 21 circuit ez wiring harness as well. As I was mentally prepping for the install I started finding more and more spices, missing connectors and mismatched parts. I did my homework on the cost of all new oem connectors and decided to go with the 18 circuit AAW from MuscleRods. If I had good stock connectors to work with i would have stayed with the ez kit as the quality looked to be there, especially for the price. Sold the ez kit to a board member.

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Old 01-24-2012, 08:35 PM   #45
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This is the one thing that keeps messing with my head, I do not NEED any of the above listed products. My truck fires up and runs from Houston to New Orleans as it sits now. Every exterior light i have fixed, the interior lights i havent bothered with. That being said the tail lights are fixed with 7 twist on connectors and any color autozone wire i had in the garage at the time, the electric fans is running black wire spliced to a red wire spliced to a yellow spliced to a black, the starter wire is half green and two colors red. I REALLY WANT the above mentioned products to clean all this jumble, But is splicing an EZ wiring kit into 30 year old terminals and such really an improvement from what i already have? or for the extra 200 bucks get new terminals connectors and such which i dont really need but are already built into the wiring? I say yea if your going thru the whole re wire process why not re wire all of it beginning to end. Its not like they sell a 3/4 length wire kit where you have to provide the last 12 inches to reach the wires destination, so why buy one that needs the last 3 inches where whatever terminals and connectors or socket rests and have brand new wiring running 30 year old sockets and bulbs that will just end up burning up sooner than later and have to be spliced replaced (by more random autozone wire)
The 18 circuit wiring harness from Painless has new terminals and connectors. Most of it is allready prewired and ready for installation. You simply unplug old wiring harness and plug in new one. All wires are color coded and use the same factory colors. Wires are labeled every 6 inches telling you which wire section it belongs to and each wire has a number allowing you quickly tell where it begins and ends. Fuses are are allready pre-installed in fuse box and are the new blade style. There is a 50 amp Maxi-fuse to protect the wiring harness.

Best of all it can be had for $388 from www.jegs.com.


It actually took me more time to route the wires the way I wanted than to actually install the harness. I decided to re-wire my truck because of the old 40 plus years of the original wiring harness and to clean up all of the old hack job wiring done to it.

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Old 01-26-2012, 05:27 PM   #46
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So the AAW does NOT have the words lazered on it?
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Old 01-26-2012, 06:22 PM   #47
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AAW DOES have the wires labeled all the way from fuse box to end. Here's a pic of the kit to give you an idea of what it looks like still in packages.

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So the AAW does NOT have the words lazered on it?
yes, everything is labeled. instructions clear enough anyone should be able to install with minimal effort.
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:28 AM   #49
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AAW is plug and play PAinless is a PAIN you have to do alot of but connectors, Ive used Painless on a few projects that customers supplyed and I dont like them at all. The kit for a 76 ford F250 came with a huge pile of butt connectors and list of how to singally connect each wire to each single terminal of every switch in the truck. as well but splice all the light connections. I have the correct crimpers and correct brass terminals to have done it right using the factory plug housings.
AAW is WAYYYY better you wil think you bought a factory harness. also the wire that painless used for the blower motor on this particular ford was half the size of the factory and soon overheated hence I had to fix it right
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i was going to rewire my 68 and was wondering if AAW is marked on the wires like EZ wiring is? thanks
I spoke with AAW yesterday and they told me they are releasing a kit specific to 67-68 in March 2012
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