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115-K10 · 02-02-2010, 05:55 PM

I am converting from manual to power steering on a '67 4x4 (k10) chassis. Is there a difference b/w the 2wd and 4x4 steering box and/or pitman arm? If anyone has photos it would be a great help.

I know the '67 chassis will also need an adapter plate. Who makes the best one on the market or do you know anyone who has an extra one?

Thanks for the help!

JimKshortstep4x4 · 02-02-2010, 08:55 PM

The 2 wd and 4 wd boxes and pitman arms are different.

Jim

Mike C · 02-02-2010, 10:18 PM

Jim is correct. Before you proceed, Google "crossover steering" and read up on that. Way too much info for me to try and post.

If you are starting from scratch and you are contemplating swapping in a disc brake axle (or you already have) this might be a good time. 2x4 boxes are usually cheaper used than 4x4 and much less likely to be worn out.

115-K10 · 02-03-2010, 06:51 PM

Thanks for the pointers on the crossover conversion. After looking it up on google it looks like a great option for lifted trucks. I am going to basically stay at stock height so I think I should just try the 4x4 box/pitmen arm swap. I am also running a plow and not sure if the plow frame will interfere with the crossover.

msgross · 02-07-2010, 11:30 AM

I would find a donor front axle too... might as well go for disc brakes on your 67... My money pit project is going that route... the newer axles all bolt up.

Steering will require a new 4WD box, pitman arm, and if you go with a newer axle then get the drag link, steering arm etc...

I suggest to find a $400 donor 4WD and rob all of the parts that you need, sell the rest for scrap.

doug70 · 02-07-2010, 11:46 AM

I need some more info on this. On project Grasshopper, I am using parts from several donor trucks. My plan was to use the steering gear box from the 91 2wd suburban and put a 4" drop pitman arm on it. Will that work?

Doug

msgross · 02-07-2010, 02:00 PM

2WD's had gear boxes and pitman arms that moved left to right, 4WD's moved front to back.. not sure how long that was true but I bet it went into the 80's like that.

02-02-2010, 05:55 PM	#1
115-K10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 144	4x4 vs 2wd power steering I am converting from manual to power steering on a '67 4x4 (k10) chassis. Is there a difference b/w the 2wd and 4x4 steering box and/or pitman arm? If anyone has photos it would be a great help. I know the '67 chassis will also need an adapter plate. Who makes the best one on the market or do you know anyone who has an extra one? Thanks for the help! __________________ The chum Bucket - SWB K10 Restoration - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=329775 1971 SS454 Monte http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/...feature14.html 1970 - Monte Carlo Convertible, LS6, L89, M22 Build http://www.firstgenmc.com/ubbthreads...=360236&page=1 1970-SS454 Tripe Black - Barn Find http://www.firstgenerationmontecarlo...=421201&page=1

02-02-2010, 08:55 PM	#2
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	Re: 4x4 vs 2wd power steering The 2 wd and 4 wd boxes and pitman arms are different. Jim __________________ 1971 Shortbox step side 4x4, 350 sbc, 3:07 rear end 1965 Impala SS 400 sbc, Muncie rock crusher 1966 Impala SS 396 bbc, TH 400 1969 El Camino, 350 sbc, TH 350 1971 Snowplow built on a Blazer frame 1972 GMC Short bed, stepside, TH 400, 427 BBC

02-02-2010, 10:18 PM	#3
Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,714	Re: 4x4 vs 2wd power steering Jim is correct. Before you proceed, Google "crossover steering" and read up on that. Way too much info for me to try and post. If you are starting from scratch and you are contemplating swapping in a disc brake axle (or you already have) this might be a good time. 2x4 boxes are usually cheaper used than 4x4 and much less likely to be worn out. __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

02-03-2010, 06:51 PM	#4
115-K10 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 144	Re: 4x4 vs 2wd power steering Thanks for the pointers on the crossover conversion. After looking it up on google it looks like a great option for lifted trucks. I am going to basically stay at stock height so I think I should just try the 4x4 box/pitmen arm swap. I am also running a plow and not sure if the plow frame will interfere with the crossover. __________________ The chum Bucket - SWB K10 Restoration - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=329775 1971 SS454 Monte http://www.hemmings.com/mus/stories/...feature14.html 1970 - Monte Carlo Convertible, LS6, L89, M22 Build http://www.firstgenmc.com/ubbthreads...=360236&page=1 1970-SS454 Tripe Black - Barn Find http://www.firstgenerationmontecarlo...=421201&page=1

02-07-2010, 11:30 AM	#5
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: 4x4 vs 2wd power steering I would find a donor front axle too... might as well go for disc brakes on your 67... My money pit project is going that route... the newer axles all bolt up. Steering will require a new 4WD box, pitman arm, and if you go with a newer axle then get the drag link, steering arm etc... I suggest to find a $400 donor 4WD and rob all of the parts that you need, sell the rest for scrap. __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"

02-07-2010, 11:46 AM	#6
doug70 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Breckenridge, texas Posts: 83	Re: 4x4 vs 2wd power steering I need some more info on this. On project Grasshopper, I am using parts from several donor trucks. My plan was to use the steering gear box from the 91 2wd suburban and put a 4" drop pitman arm on it. Will that work? Doug __________________ 68 CST 396, 60K original miles 70 Longhorn project 72 Stepside (150% complete) 67 Stepside project 71 RS Camaro 90% done 71 BB Corvette 50% complete 78 K5 project

02-07-2010, 02:00 PM	#7
msgross Registered User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Central PA Posts: 12,201	Re: 4x4 vs 2wd power steering 2WD's had gear boxes and pitman arms that moved left to right, 4WD's moved front to back.. not sure how long that was true but I bet it went into the 80's like that. __________________ The Garage: 1968 K-10 SWB - "Project Money Pit" 1996 Z-71 - "huntin rig" 1969 C-10 LWB (SOLD) "Project flip that truck or else" 1993 Passport, F@rd 1-ton (SOLD)"Project Cousin Eddie" My Garage Build "The 1,000 footer"



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