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Old 02-09-2017, 09:58 PM   #1
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Rearend help

Can anyone ID this rearend and why the wheel cylinders don't come out without what looks like having to pull the axles and if so how? I have attached photos of everything.







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Forgot to mention it is a 1971 GMC K1500
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Old 02-09-2017, 10:25 PM   #3
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Re: Rearend help

looks like a dana 44
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Old 02-09-2017, 10:38 PM   #4
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I have a Dana 44 in the front but this is the rear but it doesn't have the 60 cast into it where I have a 44 cast into the front.
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:10 AM   #5
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Any help anyone!!!
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Old 02-10-2017, 12:31 AM   #6
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If they wont wriggle out sideways you could loosen or remove the backing plate bolts so it moves away at top.

BTW,Ive never seen an axle that looked doubled-up on the flange and with those welds?
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Old 02-10-2017, 06:58 AM   #7
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Definitely a Dana.
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Old 02-10-2017, 09:13 AM   #8
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Re: Rearend help

It's either a 60 or a 44. If you have a 44 in front then the cover in the rear should be larger if it's a 60 and same size if it's a 44.

The semi-float Dana 60 is fairly uncommon found in big blocks in 67-68, but a Dana in the rear of a 1/2 ton after '68 is unusual as well and my guess is it was swapped from something else.

44's were found in both ends of 67-68 4x4 IME and probably more of those than 1/2 ton big block trucks so 44's more common.


So compare cover size and you tell us what you have!
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If they wont wriggle out sideways you could loosen or remove the backing plate bolts so it moves away at top.

BTW,Ive never seen an axle that looked doubled-up on the flange and with those welds?
I agree, there is an extra metal backing on the axle flange that may have been added due to some type of stud failure and that was a way to save the axles. The extra space they take up keep the cylinders from coming out, I have never seen a standard axle that you couldn't get the cylinders out.
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Thanks for all the responses, I will try loosening the backing plate tonight to try and remove and will post what happens.
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Old 02-11-2017, 01:43 AM   #11
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Went to loosen the backing plate and noticed the PO had welded it in place, so I had to pull the axle to get it off.
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Lame! Did you change axle seals and bearings while you were in there?
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Old 02-12-2017, 10:22 PM   #13
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Yes I am going to.
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Old 02-13-2017, 12:17 AM   #14
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If they wont wriggle out sideways you could loosen or remove the backing plate bolts so it moves away at top.

BTW,Ive never seen an axle that looked doubled-up on the flange and with those welds?
I agree something weird with those axles...
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Went to loosen the backing plate and noticed the PO had welded it in place, so I had to pull the axle to get it off.
that is weird, you may want to replace those axles, something isn't right with those doubled up welded flanges...
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Re: Rearend help

I just replaced the seals and bearings on my 72 c10 12-bolt rearend,5 lug. I hadn't planned on doing it,but while I was doing a complete overhaul of my rear drum brakes I noticed both sides seals were leaking. One funny thing about the job,IMO, is I had to borrow a slide hammer from Autozone for the bearings, or at least I thought I did...after the seals were out and I had the slide hammer setup, I went to pull back on the hammer and it caught the lip of the bearing race and the bearing just fell out of the axle tube! So I went to the other side and I was able to slide out the bearing with my fingers. They seemed to be in ok condition, the outer races were a little discolored but no broken pieces or anything. The Timken bearings I ordered went in nice though, solid and true. Same with the National seals.(the seals were a PITA to seat though even with the right installer.) But I got it all done and am glad that task is over with. Good luck with yours. It seems you already have an interesting setup, and I hope it goes smoothly for you.
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