1952 GMC Suburban/S10 Swap

[pokerpossum]

First of all, let me say that I have NEVER done a project like this, and I am definitely a rookie. Having said that, I am having a ball with this build.

It all started a couple of years ago when I saw a Suburban drive by that was really cool....so I started reading blogs and figured I would like to try an S10 frame swap under a 1947-54 Suburban. I told my friends and a month later my cousin called and said he knew a guy with a Suburban that he never fixed up.

So this is the Suburban as I bought it.


The next item was to find a long bed regular cab S10 pickup. So, I go to a moving sale, and there, under 6 inches of pine needles is an S10. I ask the guy if it is for sale, and he says yes. I offer him $200.00 for it if he can get it running. Two hours later, he calls me and has it running, and I have found a complete regular cab, long bed S10.

Here's the S10 as I bought it.

[Iceburgh]

Burb looks complete and nice shape....good find

[low54panel]

Very cool, always liked the gmcs. Im doing the same swap on a 54 panel at the moment.

[48ChevBagged]

Good Looking burb. Will be following along with this build. My burb is on a stock chassis with a mustang II front and s10 rear axle with a leaf spring setup. Ive always wondered how one of these would turn out on a s10 swap. Ive done several trucks on them and they have turned out great. Good luck with the build.

[youngrodder]

Good luck with your project. This site is a great place to start.
It is cool that right now there are 4-5 different suburban builds going on with all different levels of modifiacation.

Marc

[pokerpossum]

So, on Jan 1, 2013, I actually started turning a wrench on this project. I took the 52 Burb down to its frame, and looked around for a rotisserie to put the body on.
Couldn't find one to borrow or rent, so I found some plans on the internet, took the best ideas of each, and built one. I tack-welded it together and then took it to my buddy who can really weld. It works great!
The Suburban began its life as an Ambulance for the US Army. It was stationed at The Presidio, San Francisco. I found all the Army markings under the paint. On each side it says "Army Medical Services" and "Ambulance" front and rear. Lots of Red Crosses, too.
Anything I didn't need off the Suburban was sold, and by the time I sold them, I had only paid a net of $200.00 for the Burb!
Here's a picture of the body on the rotisserie.
And then it was time for the S10 to get a haircut. I had break way more rusted bolts on the 1991 S10 than on the 1952 GMC. Part of the reason is that the gov't ordered undercoating on the Burb, and I found that the undercarriage has virtually NO rust. Whatever General Motors sprayed on there was good S***. I'm sure it is considered hazmat nowadays. Of course, I disposed of it properly.....
Here's a couple of photos of the S10 demolition.

[youngrodder]

Great progress. Out of curiosity how much do you have into the rotissery? Do you still have the plans that you followed? It looks like a safe way to work on/move around.

Marc

[skymangs]

Off to a great start! Love these burbs!

[pokerpossum]

Hey Youngrodder,

I took 2 sets of plans and combined what I felt was the best of both plans. The first set is a free set available from Red Wing Steel Works. You can access it at redwingsteelworksplans.com/‎ . The second set I bought on ebay for $12.00 from Chevelle-Man, and here's a current auction for one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROTISSERIE-P...item3a4bb59278

I used the Red Wing model for most of the rotisserie, but I like the adjustability of the arms of the Chevelle-Man, so I built it accordingly.

I had about $600.00 into parts.

I'm not a great welder, so I tack welded it together and took it to my good buddy who is an even better welder.

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by pokerpossum

Hey Youngrodder,

I took 2 sets of plans and combined what I felt was the best of both plans. The first set is a free set available from Red Wing Steel Works. You can access it at redwingsteelworksplans.com/‎ . The second set I bought on ebay for $12.00 from Chevelle-Man, and here's a current auction for one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROTISSERIE-P...item3a4bb59278

I used the Red Wing model for most of the rotisserie, but I like the adjustability of the arms of the Chevelle-Man, so I built it accordingly.

I had about $600.00 into parts.

I'm not a great welder, so I tack welded it together and took it to my good buddy who is an even better welder.

Great Poker, thanks for the info and links.....much apprecaited.

Marc

[pokerpossum]

Hi Marc,
I got the plans mixed up...I built mostly off of Chevelle-mans plans, but used the adjustability of the arms of the Red Wing design.

Possum

[youngrodder]

Thanks Poker..

Hey do you mind taking a close up pic of you passenger side front floor? It looks like your seat riser goes all way across the cab. On my 53 Chevy Suburban it does not. Did yours come with the fold up jump seat? Just curious.

Marc

[pokerpossum]

Hi Marc,
I don't know what the original seats were. Probably bucket/jump seats, but it came with some smelly old 60's bucket seats that I threw away.
You are right, my floor riser goes all the way across. I've seen them without, usually with individual driver and passenger, with the passenger being a jump seat so you could get to the rear seats.
My goal is to score a pair of 2004-2010 Suburban/Denali/Escalade seats for the front. These have the 3 point seat belts built into them, so I won't have to fabricate brackets or have the belts hanging around. Of course, I want the full power ones with leather and the seat warmers, too. Ever since we got a car with seat warmers, my wife insists on them from now on....
Here's a picture of my floor riser....

[STOCKISH]

Awesome, look forward to watching this.

[youngrodder]

Thanks for the seat riser pic. That is the first time I have seen a seat riser like that.
Marc

[youngrodder]

Poker-

In sharing your pics on the stovebolt web site they seem to think that because this Suburban started life as an ambulance it came with front bucket seats and it had the riser that goes all the way across the cab.

This not my pic but how a normal (bench/jump seat) suburban floor looks. Even the flat add on looking piece of sheet metal is stock. It was a way to make the floor flat (for stepping into the back) where it is normally concaved.

Marc

[pokerpossum]

I saw an ad on Craigslist for a 2000 Chevy s10 Blazer 4WD rear end. It was cheap so I picked it up. The rear ends on the S10 Blazers are wider than pickups and allow the rear wheels to set in the wheel wells correctly.

On the front, I will either use 2.5 in spacers or offset wheels. Anybody have any advise on which way is better when using an S10 frame? I know nothing about steering geometry and would like some suggestions.

Here's a photo of the Blazer rear end....

I cut all the body mounts off, stripped the frame, took it outside and pressure washed it. Then lots of scraping and stripping to get all the hidden gunk off the frame so I could paint it with some POR-15. Here's some more photos.

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by pokerpossum

I saw an ad on Craigslist for a 2000 Chevy s10 Blazer 4WD rear end. It was cheap so I picked it up. The rear ends on the S10 Blazers are wider than pickups and allow the rear wheels to set in the wheel wells correctly.

On the front, I will either use 2.5 in spacers or offset wheels. Anybody have any advise on which way is better when using an S10 frame? I know nothing about steering geometry and would like some suggestions.

Here's a photo of the Blazer rear end....

I cut all the body mounts off, stripped the frame, took it outside and pressure washed it. Then lots of scraping and stripping to get all the hidden gunk off the frame so I could paint it with some POR-15. Here's some more photos.

Looks great. I know your pain. I spent last Saturday gridding rivits in order to strip my frame.

What is the width of the s-10 rear end from axle flange to axle flange?

Marc

[pokerpossum]

Hi Marc,

If you are asking about the center to center measurement of the spring perches, its 38 inches.

If you are asking the width between wheel mounting surface, it is approx 60 inches. The pickups and 2WD Blazers came stock with approx 54 inches between wheels mounting surface. So you instantly pick up 5-6 inches of width.

Don't get the hard to find zr2 option, because they are even wider, too wide for our Burbs.

[99 to Life]

I'd give a left nut for a burb. Got some panels but a burb and COE are on my radar. Looks great.

[pokerpossum]

Hey 99,
I noticed you'd give A left nut for a burb, who you gonna get it from?

[99 to Life]

whoever needs a nut. Actually have a guys number locally that has a 51' my magic number too, haven't seen pics or anything. Been so tied up with other projects its on the back burner anyway, unless I can convince my lady to let me do a burb for the family cruiser over the 53' belair!!! then I'm golden.

[pokerpossum]

Rotisserie in action.......The first time you spin your baby on a rotisserie that you built yourself is nerve wracking. But alls well that ends well.

Here's a few photos of the initial spin-a-rama. Man, this thing has come in handy.....money well spent.

[STOCKISH]

Hey man, looking great. But your last two pics came in upside down. Lol. Can't wait to see more.

[99 to Life]

stop giving me ideas!!!! Got too many I can't keep up with my brain. Looks killer.