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08-30-2020, 10:36 AM | #1 |
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1993 c3500 6.5 to 8.1 swap ?
Goodmorning fellas
I've got a 1993 chevy c3500 crew cab dually with a 6.5 detroit/4L80E. The truck came out of Texas, NO RUST. I really only use it to pull my 42ft gooseneck race trailer with a 72 c10 drag truck. Ive grown quite fond of the 93 and rather than spending $60k+ on a new truck Ive been thinking about swapping from the 6.5/4L80E to an 8.1/Allison combo to gain some power and reliability. Don't get me wrong the 6.5 runs well but its a dog and from what I understand the bottom end is a ticking time bomb. Just curious if any of you have done this, and if you have what did it entail? Any help would be greatly appreciated, These forums have been a godsend and have yet to let me down. Thanks in advance! |
08-30-2020, 08:19 PM | #2 |
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Re: 1993 c3500 6.5 to 8.1 swap ?
I'd look into a Vortec 454 and go from there. They can make more torque at a cheaper price than an 8.1. Only 1 company makes stuff for the 8.1, and they are rather proud of it.
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08-31-2020, 01:57 PM | #3 |
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Re: 1993 c3500 6.5 to 8.1 swap ?
Interesting coincidence that GO-FAST posted this question... Yesterday my Son bought a '95 K-3500 Crewcab LB single wheel.. 6.5 diesel, auto, 175,000mi. Everything works & pretty fair condition. CHEAP.... WOW, what a LOOONG truck!!! Been reading about the 6.5 Turbo diesels and I was wondering if the bellhousing flange on the 6.5 is compatible with Chevy gas V8's. I have a 330hp. Mercruiser engine... (4bolt 454) in the shop & wondered if it would bolt up if the 6.5 takes a crap.
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08-31-2020, 02:57 PM | #4 |
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Re: 1993 c3500 6.5 to 8.1 swap ?
Beauty of Chevy, everything bolts to everything lol. Yes they the same so bolts right up.
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08-31-2020, 04:52 PM | #5 |
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Re: 1993 c3500 6.5 to 8.1 swap ?
Thanks b454rat, I think it'd be a lot less cluttered under the hood w/the 454 & a carburetor. Just need enough computer to run the 4L80e. Hafta see if the big 'ol truck's worth the work.
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Dad always said, "Son, WISH IN ONE HAND, and ......." -------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Current toy trucks: '71 GMC 1500 SUPER CUSTOM short/step, orig. dk. blue, 350/700r, ps,pb, A/C '72 Blazer 2wd, ochre & white, 454, tremecTKO 500 5spd. ps, pb, A/C, tilt Last 10yrs of hobby vehicles, had a FEW more in the 50yrs. before these: '66 Plymouth Belvedere City of Miami cop car clone. '70 Nova 406"sb, 13.5-1, solid roller, Brodix, p.glide/t.brake, back halved, 9" Ford, spool 4.88, cage,ladder bar/coilover, 10.5 tire....... SOLD!! '67 C10 short/step side mount spare -- SOLD!! '72 Jimmy 2wd, 350/350, ps, pb, fun driver, lots of bondo & a shiny red paint job..... SOLD!! '69 Nova 350, 4spd, A/C, ps, p.b, ...SOLD!! |
09-04-2020, 05:48 PM | #6 |
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Re: 1993 c3500 6.5 to 8.1 swap ?
Don't most marine engines run reverse?
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09-04-2020, 09:16 PM | #7 |
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Re: 1993 c3500 6.5 to 8.1 swap ?
Some do, mainly for twin engine applications. This one is std. rotation.
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Dad always said, "Son, WISH IN ONE HAND, and ......." -------------------------------------- -------------------------------------- Current toy trucks: '71 GMC 1500 SUPER CUSTOM short/step, orig. dk. blue, 350/700r, ps,pb, A/C '72 Blazer 2wd, ochre & white, 454, tremecTKO 500 5spd. ps, pb, A/C, tilt Last 10yrs of hobby vehicles, had a FEW more in the 50yrs. before these: '66 Plymouth Belvedere City of Miami cop car clone. '70 Nova 406"sb, 13.5-1, solid roller, Brodix, p.glide/t.brake, back halved, 9" Ford, spool 4.88, cage,ladder bar/coilover, 10.5 tire....... SOLD!! '67 C10 short/step side mount spare -- SOLD!! '72 Jimmy 2wd, 350/350, ps, pb, fun driver, lots of bondo & a shiny red paint job..... SOLD!! '69 Nova 350, 4spd, A/C, ps, p.b, ...SOLD!! |
09-08-2020, 01:18 PM | #8 |
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Re: 1993 c3500 6.5 to 8.1 swap ?
I have a C3500 with the 6.5 and with some fairly inexpensive mods you can make a very dependable engine with great gas mileage. I swapped out the lift pump and wiring, I replaced the pmd with one mounted to a heat sink in the inner fender and I fitted two matching output batteries. The only expensive fix was to have the ecu re-written to bypass the security system which will fail.
Other than that I will be fitting a manual boost and gauges and carrying out regular oil changes. |
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