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Luvlegs · 01-30-2011, 10:08 PM

Well, I'm getting closer to going automatic - just have to do some cleaning and such. I'm pretty sure there's a transmission under there somewhere. The only clean part is the tag!
Can anyone explain the extra steel welded on the flex plate (ring gear or what ever we want to call it today). It sits up pretty high and is actually stamped with a number. Does this mean it was perhaps balanced to the crank shaft and harmonic balancer on the other end?
Any and all input is greatly appreciated.... and I'm taking donations of elbow grease!

Luvlegs · 01-30-2011, 10:09 PM

couple more

dave2953 · 01-30-2011, 10:11 PM

Is that not the weight that keeps it in balance? That thing sure is filthy. You will have to be sure and post some "after" pics once you get it all cleaned up.

rsavage · 01-30-2011, 11:59 PM

Make sure that the flex plate isn't for a 400 small block which I believe used an externally balanced flex plate. I don't think my flex plate had any balance weights on it.

Willys47 · 01-31-2011, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by rsavage

Make sure that the flex plate isn't for a 400 small block which I believe used an externally balanced flex plate. I don't think my flex plate had any balance weights on it.

don't over look that it may be from a 454

Luvlegs · 01-31-2011, 07:17 AM

My bad - it is from a 454 - is there some significance to that?

Willys47 · 01-31-2011, 10:37 AM

the 454 was externally balanced.The flex plate and harmonic balancer were used to get it to run smooth, if you use one of them on a internaly balanced motor it will shake.I bet it would come apart sooner than later aswell.

sameyrasmea72 · 01-31-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Luvlegs

.... and I'm taking donations of elbow grease!

It's a close call, but mine may have been worse than yours. A little elbow grease and she'll look brand new.

Jeffs70 · 01-31-2011, 01:26 PM

wow that is filthy, now that is one reason I decided to repaint and clean up everything under my truck to a restored finish. LOL got tired of crawling under it to work and get nothing but dirt and grease in my face. GL Cleaning that thing or finding that leak.

mr48chev · 01-31-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Willys47

the 454 was externally balanced.The flex plate and harmonic balancer were used to get it to run smooth, if you use one of them on a internaly balanced motor it will shake.I bet it would come apart sooner than later aswell.

Correct he is. You can knock the weight off if you want to or replace the flex plate and sell that one to a person who needs it.

If you have a 383 stroker, 400 or 454 you need the counterweight though.

Luvlegs · 01-31-2011, 05:15 PM

OK - I have the 454, T400, torque converter, flex plate, harmonic balancer and yoke to go from the tranny to the drive shaft. The motor is partly rebuilt (top end not done yet). The balancer rubber looks bad. When I get a new balancer, do I have to put the flex plate on in any special direction/order or rebalance anything? The whole setup is out of a 73 elky SS.

PanelDeland · 01-31-2011, 05:50 PM

IIRC there is a locating pin that only allows you to bolt the flex plate up one way.It should go thru a hole located midway or so between bolt holes.It's been a while but that's what I remember.

BTW an hour or so with a scraper,a couple dousings with a good degreaser and I'll bet you find a tranny under there(and I don't mean a man in womens clothing).Take it to the carwash along with some degreaser to do that part.

Luvlegs · 01-31-2011, 06:28 PM

I hit it with a scraper this morning, then dragged out all the hoses, set up the pressure washer and started making progress. The washer bogged and I smelled electrical burning... smoked the danged pressure washer.. ugh! Sooooo, I was thinking of hitting it with some easy off... can't find that either... just having one of those days!

68Stepbed · 02-01-2011, 10:14 AM

Bleche-White is your friend. We use it to clean up stuff all the time. It cuts the dirt and grease pretty quick.

treveiger · 02-01-2011, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by PanelDeland

BTW an hour or so with a scraper,a couple dousings with a good degreaser and I'll bet you find a tranny under there(and I don't mean a man in womens clothing).Take it to the carwash along with some degreaser to do that part.

You never know what you could find

01-30-2011, 10:08 PM	#1
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Dirty Dirty Tranny Well, I'm getting closer to going automatic - just have to do some cleaning and such. I'm pretty sure there's a transmission under there somewhere. The only clean part is the tag! Can anyone explain the extra steel welded on the flex plate (ring gear or what ever we want to call it today). It sits up pretty high and is actually stamped with a number. Does this mean it was perhaps balanced to the crank shaft and harmonic balancer on the other end? Any and all input is greatly appreciated.... and I'm taking donations of elbow grease! Attached Images __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

01-30-2011, 10:09 PM	#2
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny couple more Attached Images __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

01-30-2011, 10:11 PM	#3
dave2953 Dave's not here, man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Winder, Georgia Posts: 2,000	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny Is that not the weight that keeps it in balance? That thing sure is filthy. You will have to be sure and post some "after" pics once you get it all cleaned up. __________________ - 2014 VW Jetta - 2015 VW Jetta - 1966 Ford F-250 Last edited by dave2953; 01-30-2011 at 10:17 PM.

01-30-2011, 11:59 PM	#4
rsavage Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Alden NY Posts: 2,705	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny Make sure that the flex plate isn't for a 400 small block which I believe used an externally balanced flex plate. I don't think my flex plate had any balance weights on it. __________________ 1961 C1 Corvette 1959 El Camino 350 TPI, 9" 4 w disc 69 Blazer K5 - sold July '20 2021 Durango RT 5.7

01-31-2011, 07:17 AM	#6
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny My bad - it is from a 454 - is there some significance to that? __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

01-31-2011, 10:37 AM	#7
Willys47 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Nanaimo B.C. Posts: 604	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny the 454 was externally balanced.The flex plate and harmonic balancer were used to get it to run smooth, if you use one of them on a internaly balanced motor it will shake.I bet it would come apart sooner than later aswell. __________________ I was hooked on these trucks since 1982 when I drove my budys fathers 1968 Custum GMC 396 automatic dana 60 rear with a power lock diff what a ride more fun then we will we can ever tell!!

01-31-2011, 01:26 PM	#9
Jeffs70 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Valley Springs, Ca Posts: 857	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny wow that is filthy, now that is one reason I decided to repaint and clean up everything under my truck to a restored finish. LOL got tired of crawling under it to work and get nothing but dirt and grease in my face. GL Cleaning that thing or finding that leak. __________________ My Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=442487 My Picture Gallery http://67-72chevytrucks.com/gallery/...0&ppuser=36004

01-31-2011, 05:15 PM	#11
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny OK - I have the 454, T400, torque converter, flex plate, harmonic balancer and yoke to go from the tranny to the drive shaft. The motor is partly rebuilt (top end not done yet). The balancer rubber looks bad. When I get a new balancer, do I have to put the flex plate on in any special direction/order or rebalance anything? The whole setup is out of a 73 elky SS. Attached Images __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

01-31-2011, 05:50 PM	#12
PanelDeland I am a Referee of life. Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Greensboro N.C. Posts: 13,993	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny IIRC there is a locating pin that only allows you to bolt the flex plate up one way.It should go thru a hole located midway or so between bolt holes.It's been a while but that's what I remember. BTW an hour or so with a scraper,a couple dousings with a good degreaser and I'll bet you find a tranny under there(and I don't mean a man in womens clothing).Take it to the carwash along with some degreaser to do that part. __________________ The 47-present Chevrolet and GMC Truck Message Board Network,it's owners,moderators,members,and associates of any type should not be held responsible for my opinion. You can't fix stupid,not even with duct tape. "My appearance is due to the fact that "GOD" does punish you for having too much fun!" Barrett-Jackson has perfected alchemy,they make rust into gold! "You can lead a horse to water but you can't saddle a duck" "Cleverly disguised as a 'Responsible Adult' "Sometimes your Knight in shining armor is just a retard in tinfoil" Last edited by PanelDeland; 01-31-2011 at 05:52 PM.

01-31-2011, 06:28 PM	#13
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny I hit it with a scraper this morning, then dragged out all the hoses, set up the pressure washer and started making progress. The washer bogged and I smelled electrical burning... smoked the danged pressure washer.. ugh! Sooooo, I was thinking of hitting it with some easy off... can't find that either... just having one of those days! __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

02-01-2011, 10:14 AM	#14
68Stepbed Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 10-Uh-See Posts: 5,609	Re: Dirty Dirty Tranny Bleche-White is your friend. We use it to clean up stuff all the time. It cuts the dirt and grease pretty quick. __________________ Matt 68 C10 stepside, LS1/700R4, TCI Engineering suspension system



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