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ChuckDriver · 07-14-2016, 04:52 PM

I'll see what I can do for comparison videos!

ChuckDriver · 07-24-2016, 09:26 PM

Let's add another item to my growing list of updates!

Looking at some fabric, this is from a '63 Impala, I think it will go well with the '61 Impala speaker!

71'tahoe · 07-24-2016, 11:01 PM

Love the new frame work! Cant wait to see it finished!

butchp · 07-26-2016, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuckDriver

Hey Dan! Yep life has a way of slowing our builds down for sure! Been busy with the kids, working in the new yard and I've about gotten my garage set up the way I want it. I'm really wanting get going again on the door latches and the new frame again soon, but got to take the Kids to Disney this weekend!!

I have no reason why I didn't cover that one spot on the floor, other than I figured it didn't need it since its a raised section.

I have also been trying to figure where to put this:

I got one also I am going to try to put it in my seat back like it was in the rear seat.

ChuckDriver · 07-29-2016, 01:13 AM

Well I said I was moving the muffler swap to the top of my list, so yesterday I got an early start and made it happen!

It was pretty straight forward swapping them out. I had mounted the 40s using 3 bolt flanges so I did the same with the Venoms. The Venoms are 1in longer so I trimmed the outlet before Mig welding the flanges and bolting them up!

And yes they sound AWESOME! It really barks when you fire it up and the idle sounds much more pronounced, it's a little "raspy" so I may put an H pipe in later. Accelerating from a stop sounds great through the gears with a very nice deep tone. Funny thing is, at about 55 they go silent! You only hear the wind noise with the windows down.

What I really like is when sitting still and you jump on the throttle from about 2500 to 4500 they really come alive!! I like them much better that the 40s and will highly recommend them to you guys!

kustombrad · 07-29-2016, 05:22 PM

Very cool!!

ChuckDriver · 07-29-2016, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kustombrad

Very cool!!

Thanks Brad!

Rods57 · 07-30-2016, 05:40 PM

I think we need an audio file posted to hear what it sounds like.......

ChuckDriver · 07-31-2016, 12:55 PM

I think I might have this video thing figured out.

Here are links to 2 videos, one with the Flowmasters and the new Black Widow Exhaust Venoms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrjKKxVke1Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpDibidhYsA

**Dan in Pasadena** · 07-31-2016, 04:46 PM

Sounds pretty wicked, JJ.

You say they quiet down at highway cruising speed? If not I doubt I could live with them long term but they DO sound bad ass. Danny likey!

ChuckDriver · 07-31-2016, 06:14 PM

Dan, yep they do get quiet while cruising. They do sound real nice at idle and while accelerating!!

jaws61 · 07-31-2016, 08:30 PM

Wow they sound awesome!! Which Widow venmons are they so get an idea for my build??

**Advanced Design** · 07-31-2016, 08:37 PM

The new ones do sound more aggressive at idle and it is interesting how that aggressiveness diminishes as the rpm's come up. Sounds good!

iowaboynca · 07-31-2016, 08:40 PM

are those the 250s?

At first i wasn't a fan but i hear what you mean about them getting quiet. I'm now curious!

Rods57 · 07-31-2016, 08:49 PM

That sounds great. thanks for posting its good to get a real comparison.

ChuckDriver · 08-01-2016, 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaws61

Wow they sound awesome!! Which Widow venmons are they so get an idea for my build??

Yes, they are the Venom 250 series. Got them on a special July 4th sale!

bowt1ed · 08-01-2016, 03:05 PM

Hey JJ, did you bump up that cam in your ZZ? Could be the Venoms, but sounds a bit thumpier. Can't wait to light off my ZZ383 for the first time - perhaps this winter!

Cheers, Jim

RockinKees · 08-01-2016, 03:13 PM

Sounds great!!
I like the Black Widows more than the Flowmasters, they sound mean!!

ChuckDriver · 08-01-2016, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowt1ed

Hey JJ, did you bump up that cam in your ZZ? Could be the Venoms, but sounds a bit thumpier. Can't wait to light off my ZZ383 for the first time - perhaps this winter!

Cheers, Jim

Thanks Jim, it still has the stock cam but the Venoms really made a difference!

ChuckDriver · 08-01-2016, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockinKees

Sounds great!!
I like the Black Widows more than the Flowmasters, they sound mean!!

Thanks Kees!

**Dan in Pasadena** · 08-01-2016, 09:10 PM

Ok, I've gotta ask: This "ZZ383" is it a crate GM engine? Why or whose "ZZ" designation is it? What's the stated HP and Torque figures?

bowt1ed · 08-02-2016, 07:45 AM

Hey Dan, the "ZZ" is a GM designation for their high performance crate motors. The ZZ383 stroker is a SBC rated at 450/450.

Cheers, Jim

ChuckDriver · 08-02-2016, 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan in Pasadena

Ok, I've gotta ask: This "ZZ383" is it a crate GM engine? Why or whose "ZZ" designation is it? What's the stated HP and Torque figures?

Dan, mine is the ZZ4 that I got from the local Rick Hendrick Chevrolet. Its rated at 355hp/405tq, has great power!

**Dan in Pasadena** · 08-02-2016, 10:05 AM

Thanks JJ. I was looking at crate engines on Summit's site last night and all-in-all I was fairly surprised how reasonably priced they are.

My little 283/350 combo ran fine but I know it has a weak cylinder and I've always been told it costs more to have a 283 machined and rebuilt than it does to just replace it with a base 350 crate motor. Of course once I started looking I realized for "only" X more I can step up from the base motor to something with a little more umph! Lol

Slippery slopes!

solidaxel · 08-02-2016, 10:18 AM

Take a spelling lesson and try L S, I am old and I was able to understand all that info
There is a bit of a learning curve but well worth it

07-14-2016, 04:52 PM	#626
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,622	Re: My long term 57 project I'll see what I can do for comparison videos! __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

07-24-2016, 09:26 PM	#627
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,622	Re: My long term 57 project Let's add another item to my growing list of updates! Looking at some fabric, this is from a '63 Impala, I think it will go well with the '61 Impala speaker! Attached Images __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

07-24-2016, 11:01 PM	#628
71'tahoe Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: lynchburg ohio Posts: 736	Re: My long term 57 project Love the new frame work! Cant wait to see it finished!

07-29-2016, 01:13 AM	#630
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,622	Re: My long term 57 project Well I said I was moving the muffler swap to the top of my list, so yesterday I got an early start and made it happen! It was pretty straight forward swapping them out. I had mounted the 40s using 3 bolt flanges so I did the same with the Venoms. The Venoms are 1in longer so I trimmed the outlet before Mig welding the flanges and bolting them up! And yes they sound AWESOME! It really barks when you fire it up and the idle sounds much more pronounced, it's a little "raspy" so I may put an H pipe in later. Accelerating from a stop sounds great through the gears with a very nice deep tone. Funny thing is, at about 55 they go silent! You only hear the wind noise with the windows down. What I really like is when sitting still and you jump on the throttle from about 2500 to 4500 they really come alive!! I like them much better that the 40s and will highly recommend them to you guys! Attached Images __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

07-29-2016, 05:22 PM	#631
kustombrad Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: So. Cal. Posts: 452	Re: My long term 57 project Very cool!! __________________ It's all about the stance, baby! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=320546

07-30-2016, 05:40 PM	#633
Rods57 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 610	Re: My long term 57 project I think we need an audio file posted to hear what it sounds like....... __________________ My 57 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=471289

07-31-2016, 12:55 PM	#634
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,622	Re: My long term 57 project I think I might have this video thing figured out. Here are links to 2 videos, one with the Flowmasters and the new Black Widow Exhaust Venoms. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrjKKxVke1Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpDibidhYsA __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

07-31-2016, 04:46 PM	#635
Dan in Pasadena Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 6,333	Re: My long term 57 project Sounds pretty wicked, JJ. You say they quiet down at highway cruising speed? If not I doubt I could live with them long term but they DO sound bad ass. Danny likey! __________________ '55 Big Window Shortbed, Drive-It-&-Work-On-It slid down the "slippery slope" to a Frame-Off Rodstoration! LQ4/4l85e/C4 IFS/Mustang 8.8 rearend w/3.73's Dan's '55 Big Window "Build" - Well, Kinda!

07-31-2016, 06:14 PM	#636
ChuckDriver A320 Pilot/USAF Retired Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Charleston, SC Posts: 2,622	Re: My long term 57 project Dan, yep they do get quiet while cruising. They do sound real nice at idle and while accelerating!! __________________ JJ My 1957 build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=334552 http://www.trifive.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22037 Instagram - Chuckdriver57

07-31-2016, 08:30 PM	#637
jaws61 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Ontario Posts: 136	Re: My long term 57 project Wow they sound awesome!! Which Widow venmons are they so get an idea for my build??

07-31-2016, 08:37 PM	#638
Advanced Design Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 7,017	Re: My long term 57 project The new ones do sound more aggressive at idle and it is interesting how that aggressiveness diminishes as the rpm's come up. Sounds good! __________________ Doug Advanced Design’s 1977 Blazer Build Advanced Design's '48 'Burb Build Mrs Advanced Design's '72 Suburban Advanced Design's 56 BelAir LS swap

07-31-2016, 08:40 PM	#639
iowaboynca Registered User Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: West Side of the valley, CA Posts: 878	Re: My long term 57 project are those the 250s? At first i wasn't a fan but i hear what you mean about them getting quiet. I'm now curious! __________________ Build: "1950" GMC -Charlotte

07-31-2016, 08:49 PM	#640
Rods57 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Boise, Idaho Posts: 610	Re: My long term 57 project That sounds great. thanks for posting its good to get a real comparison. __________________ My 57 Build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=471289

08-01-2016, 03:05 PM	#642
bowt1ed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 494	Re: My long term 57 project Hey JJ, did you bump up that cam in your ZZ? Could be the Venoms, but sounds a bit thumpier. Can't wait to light off my ZZ383 for the first time - perhaps this winter! Cheers, Jim

08-01-2016, 03:13 PM	#643
RockinKees Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Purmerend, Netherlands Posts: 1,657	Re: My long term 57 project Sounds great!! I like the Black Widows more than the Flowmasters, they sound mean!! __________________ Cheers!! Kees. 1959 Chevy Fleetside Longbed My build: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=643426 Kool Guyz CC Instagram: _King_Kustom_



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08-01-2016, 09:10 PM	#646
Dan in Pasadena Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 6,333	Re: My long term 57 project Ok, I've gotta ask: This "ZZ383" is it a crate GM engine? Why or whose "ZZ" designation is it? What's the stated HP and Torque figures? __________________ '55 Big Window Shortbed, Drive-It-&-Work-On-It slid down the "slippery slope" to a Frame-Off Rodstoration! LQ4/4l85e/C4 IFS/Mustang 8.8 rearend w/3.73's Dan's '55 Big Window "Build" - Well, Kinda!

08-02-2016, 07:45 AM	#647
bowt1ed Registered User Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Virginia Beach, VA Posts: 494	Re: My long term 57 project Hey Dan, the "ZZ" is a GM designation for their high performance crate motors. The ZZ383 stroker is a SBC rated at 450/450. Cheers, Jim

08-02-2016, 10:05 AM	#649
Dan in Pasadena Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Glendora, CA Posts: 6,333	Re: My long term 57 project Thanks JJ. I was looking at crate engines on Summit's site last night and all-in-all I was fairly surprised how reasonably priced they are. My little 283/350 combo ran fine but I know it has a weak cylinder and I've always been told it costs more to have a 283 machined and rebuilt than it does to just replace it with a base 350 crate motor. Of course once I started looking I realized for "only" X more I can step up from the base motor to something with a little more umph! Lol Slippery slopes! __________________ '55 Big Window Shortbed, Drive-It-&-Work-On-It slid down the "slippery slope" to a Frame-Off Rodstoration! LQ4/4l85e/C4 IFS/Mustang 8.8 rearend w/3.73's Dan's '55 Big Window "Build" - Well, Kinda!

08-02-2016, 10:18 AM	#650
solidaxel Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Cactus Patch So. Az Posts: 4,749	Re: My long term 57 project Take a spelling lesson and try L S, I am old and I was able to understand all that info There is a bit of a learning curve but well worth it __________________ 53 TuTone Extended Cab 350 4-Spd 3:08 (SOLD) 53 Chevy Moldy pearl green ZZ-4 4L60E 9" 3:25 55 GMC 1st Black Mll (ZZ4) ZZ6 TKO 600 5 sp 3:73 62 Solidaxle Corvette Roman Red (327 340hp 4spd 3:36) C4 & C5 suspension tube chassis LS 3 4L70E 65 Corvette Coupe 327 350hp 4spd 4:11 78 Black Silverado SWB (350/350) 5.3 & 4L60E 3:42 2000 S-Type 3.0 (wife cruiser) 2003 GMC SCSB 5.3 4L60E 3:42

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