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Old 12-30-2015, 09:43 PM   #1
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anyway moving right along, The Greg has no media blasting cabinet, so he relies on the One Two Punch of abbrassion and acid to clean rust
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Old 12-30-2015, 11:36 PM   #2
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The reason there is differences in the window parts is because they used 2 different widths of glass from 73-76ish and 77 and on.
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Old 12-30-2015, 11:55 PM   #3
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Rockauto stocks the regulators, I'd buy there before LMC.
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Old 01-01-2016, 03:00 PM   #4
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man you guys (and gals) won't believe this, so yesterday afternoon I am painting the window regulator with some POR15 I had left over, the regulator is hanging on a wooden stick I have screwed to the top of my wooden fence, when all of a sudden the screws come out of the fence beam and the regulator falls to the ground and it just so happens it lands in a plastic storage bin lid, which is flipped upside down and full of rain water

my heart sinks, I already hate painting in the winter time and now I have a completely painted part under water, I pull it out upset as all heck, lay it down on a metal patio table and without skipping a beat using the same brush, brush off all the water beads, then I hang it inside my garage over night

well this morning I go look at it and its all dry, my goodness how did that happen, it dried in the dead of the winter and it was like 28*F last night and looks fine

you know what they say sometimes POR15 works in mysterious ways!

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you know what they say sometimes POR15 works in mysterious ways!

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I'm going to try the Hammertone/Hammerite type paint on some parts next time. I sometimes like the look and sometimes don't, but the rustoleum product seems to do well with making pitted parts look ok, durability, and rust resistance. And it seems to go on well with a brush. I plan to use the POR-15 on the frame and underside of sheetmetal. I have watched your detailed process Greg and it seems that the satin POR comes out nice. Has anyone used the silver?
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I have watched your detailed process Greg and it seems that the satin POR comes out nice. Has anyone used the silver?
I have, I believe it was silver, if you go back to me painting the transmission, you will see that the silver came out white, and the Greg was not very happy? or was it gray? I forget which
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I have, I believe it was silver, if you go back to me painting the transmission, you will see that the silver came out white, and the Greg was not very happy? or was it gray? I forget which
Cool, found it in post 819. You bought gray and it was really light gray, often known as white. Then you mixed some black in and turned it into gray. Maybe that's the ticket.
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:34 PM   #8
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so there are many options when it comes to fixing our window regulator roller problem

Option 1. buy a brand new complete regulator - now this seems like a logical option and there most likely is a reason why parts houses sell already completely assembled regulators as opposed to individual rollers, we could take this option and be done with it, but than this Post would be so boring, so we entertain other options

Option 2. - get just the rollers from an auto parts house even if they are for a different make and model, after spending half a day driving from one outfit to another and see if they will work

Option 3. - get rollers from a home repair outfit such as Home Depot because surely they specialize in bathrooms, kitchens, roofs, and of course GM interior car door parts, LOL
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:41 PM   #9
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bet you didn't think I could use a digital caliper let alone own one, ha ha

first we take a measurement of our existing rollers outside D, digital one says .946 which is close to what my analog read when it said 15/16th
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then we go waste $8 bucks on a Dorman 74430 box of assortment rollers which believe it or not claim to fit, 1975-2001 trucks

let me repeat that they will work on 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1979, etc. you get the idea, but not on Rusty who was born in 1974

when I first saw this package I assumed all three rollers had a screw on the back end, but only one does, the other two must be rivited on, I guess that's what the word "ASSORTIMENT" was implying but I don't speak Spanish
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:50 PM   #11
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then we visited Home Depot and stared at a wall of "choices" four different posiblities really so we bought them all

we had small squarish wheels

we had small rounded wheels

we had large squarish wheels

we had large rounded wheels
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back at the garage we eliminated the small wheels and decided to give the larger squarish ones a go, so we measured them first
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Old 01-01-2016, 06:56 PM   #13
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since the Dorman auto rollers did not roll all too easily in the track for some reason, I was leaning towards using the Home Depo tub and shower ones, either way, the old rollers had to come out, so it was time to drill them out

took about 10 minutes (love the new drill bits, they [ahem] work!!!)

I chose not to grind them off as that would have been ugly, and I would have marred the regulator arms / brackets what ever you wanna call them
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with the old rivited rollers out, we see now we have a new problem, the holes are about 3/16th big and the screws are only about 1/8th thick so we have wobblage

off to Ace Hardware!
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What, no Vernier Caliper?
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ha ha, got one
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ha ha, got one
It even has a depth rod.

I don't think any of the vernier's I've used have had one but really the only one's I ever used were 36" or 48" models.
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It even has a depth rod.

I don't think any of the vernier's I've used have had one but really the only one's I ever used were 36" or 48" models.
Is that what the pokey thing at the end is, I thought it was just part of the slide mechanism, ah embarrassing
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Is that what the pokey thing at the end is, I thought it was just part of the slide mechanism, ah embarrassing
LOL oh Gregski
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well after much to do about nothing, I figure I may just check out some already assembled and complete regulator prices, you know, just window shoppin' (pun intended)

so there appears to be two brands of these scissor kicking bad boys

there's the GOODMARK GMK4144420741R here are the prices for comparison
  • RockAuto - $18.21
  • Summit Racing - $24.97

and the OER - Original Equipment Reproduction T70521
  • Summit Racing - $39.97
  • Classic Industries - $39.99

plus the unknown brand LMC Truck carries for $44.95 and the unknown brand Classic Parts has for $41.95

so dummy whats stopping you from buying one of these, well I would like to buy a pair but RockAuto is out of the Left Hand ones plus I can't tell if all of them come with rollers, some don't show rollers in the pictures
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FYI, POR15 is a urethane and cures by absorbing water.... so your dousing hastened the cure... may cause flaking later if it cured too fast to bind to the rusty metal.
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OK, now I will show you how to turn this plastic into car parts
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Wow ,you really scored .
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Wow ,you really scored .
thank you aunts, uncles, and parents in law (I still have them fooled, I'm a good guy)
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and what do we have here, looks like Santa was a little late this year

This 14 1/2" Grant Classic 5 steering wheel part # 993 MSRPs for $152.43 but I found it on sale at JEGS for $68.38 so I couldn't pass it up, I also bought the proper installation kit for $28 bucks more
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