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Old 01-08-2016, 09:45 PM   #26
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Old 01-08-2016, 10:35 PM   #27
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My two dollars worth (due to inflation, no longer 2 cents)......

Restoring one of these isn't a wise INVESTMENT, it's a labor of love. If someone had to have mine, I have a threshold amount when I would say "it's yours". I paid too much, so stupid me.

But, if you want to get into really stupid territory, let's talk Ferrari 250 GTO for $38.1 MILLION.
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Old 01-09-2016, 12:07 AM   #28
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Worth more with the original motor, stock wheels, and ride height... at least if I'm your market.

Which I'm probably not, but it does reduce the -size- of your market. Anyone who's survived three fads won't pay much for the fourth. There's gotta be a jazzier way of saying that.
Not necessarily, If you've ever watch some of the large auctions on TV, you've probably seen a very nice original muscle car go for some big bucks. Then right behind it you'll see a very nice restomod go for the same money or more.

I believe our trucks are rising because they are less expensive to purchase than say a 69 Camaro. But when you start to improve them the costs are about the same. As the supply of nice donor trucks depletes, the price will rise. Look at what those beater 69 Camaros are going for.

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Well for those thinking that their truck is going to be a retirement fund they should recheck or rethink a 10 year forecast with respect to the popularity of this kind of technology and transportation.
As has been mentioned several times...the classic car and truck industry will largely (not completely) die with us. Our kids and grandkids for the better part aren't interested in this stuff. Most have an absolutely minimum amount of interest in nostalgia, particularly of this kind and they will be the ones who would have been the potential buyers and successors....and in most cases, they won't be, at least based on all showing trends these days. They might however, be interested in your vintage laptop or sony clie' or any vintage video game terminal you might have.
On top of that we, as a group, aren't getting any younger so there is a coming sunset on a lot of this hobby and with it...will go the values in all likelihood.
So remember, enjoy your truck (or classic car) and don't put any money into it that you aren't willing to lose.
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I think for the most part you are right, most kids nowadays don't even care to have a drivers license, my oldest son, however , turns 24 next week, he has only old vehicles,he is like me in that I don't own anything that has to be smogged, 1975 and older, he has a '70 gmc K2500, a 1943 willys mb jeep, a bunch of old toyota pickups and a '72 suzuki LJ20, he only likes old "unique" vehicles, he just picked up the old suzuki LJ because it is so rare...he will keep the old stuff alive
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Well for those thinking that their truck is going to be a retirement fund they should recheck or rethink a 10 year forecast with respect to the popularity of this kind of technology and transportation.
As has been mentioned several times...the classic car and truck industry will largely (not completely) die with us. Our kids and grandkids for the better part aren't interested in this stuff. Most have an absolutely minimum amount of interest in nostalgia, particularly of this kind and they will be the ones who would have been the potential buyers and successors....and in most cases, they won't be, at least based on all showing trends these days. They might however, be interested in your vintage laptop or sony clie' or any vintage video game terminal you might have.
On top of that we, as a group, aren't getting any younger so there is a coming sunset on a lot of this hobby and with it...will go the values in all likelihood.
So remember, enjoy your truck (or classic car) and don't put any money into it that you aren't willing to lose.
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These truck aren't worth squat... pass the word around so the astronomical prices will come down.

Who the hell pays top dollar for rust?

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I believe our trucks are rising because they are less expensive to purchase than say a 69 Camaro. But when you start to improve them the costs are about the same. As the supply of nice donor trucks depletes, the price will rise. Look at what those beater 69 Camaros are going for.

Not the first part, but I agree with your second part (quoted here). It used to be you could look in the classifieds and find a reasonably unmolested 307 Camaro as a project car. Heck, when I was young you could buy used SS396 cars. But not today. It's either already restored and worth $70K or it's such a basket case it'd take $150K to may it worth $70K. But the point is their inaccessible to young people.

These trucks are still cheap enough that young people can buy them and restore/fix/modify them.

As to whether they will remain popular after we're done? Depends how old you are. I'm 48 and have one for two reasons:
- When I was a kid, they were new, and my Dad had one
- When I was 16, they were old, and I had one as a beater

Now I'm "old", and I'm restoring one. And my story could go back to someone 10 years old in 67, so maybe up to late fifties. And of course anyone could own one. But I'd say another 15 years. Probably peak in 10.

Look at old Corvette. I love the C2 but have no use for a 58-62. They're "old man cars" to me. Of course they're dearly loved by those old men, but they're dying off, and only some of those Corvettes will hold much of their value. The special ones will. Z06 tankers, big brake C3s, L88s, will always have a market. But many will just become part of the glut of old cars.
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Old 01-09-2016, 06:40 PM   #33
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Old 01-09-2016, 06:55 PM   #34
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Their worth every dime I can squeeze out of the buyer after I just spent 2 years building one and making it right . If someone just wants to write a check and drive it home they should pay for every busted knuckle , Every sore arm from hand sanding for weeks on end and endless hours chasing parts !and every late night spent on a concrete floor chasing the dropped nut that just rolled to the back of the truck. Buy them NOW boys everything will triple in 5 years ! From the junk rust buckets to the high quality finished restomods .
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From what I've seen for mostly "stock", anywhere between $1,500 and $55,000. Most in the 8K to 18K range...........

Ha, just opened Ebay and there's a pair of NOS tow hooks.....24 bids so far @ $566?............That's dedication.
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Their worth every dime I can squeeze out of the buyer after I just spent 2 years building one and making it right . If someone just wants to write a check and drive it home they should pay for every busted knuckle , Every sore arm from hand sanding for weeks on end and endless hours chasing parts !and every late night spent on a concrete floor chasing the dropped nut that just rolled to the back of the truck. Buy them NOW boys everything will triple in 5 years ! From the junk rust buckets to the high quality finished restomods .
Not that I'm in the market, but would sure like to see some pics.
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I,ve seen originals go for 70k, 10-17 k common. the more original the more it brings .
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I,ve seen originals go for 70k, 10-17 k common. the more original the more it brings .
Camaro you mean? Lol I've never seen any '67-72 actually sell for higher than $30-40g in my area and that's for high dollar customs usually. The mint originals are usually $10-20g range.

The one pet peeve of mine are the guys who claim "all original" when it's had a repait or redone interior, bed wood etc. To me all original means oem paint etc and if it were redone was it done on such a low mileage truck if it were supposedly in such great shape sitting in a barn. Too many people use the original term loosely and others bit on it increasing prices of trucks which normally wouldn't demand it. I argue a bit with people about that, but if I'm paying top dollar it better not be misrepresented to embelish its "value". Then the guys say well the drivetrain is all original so that means the truck is, come on don't be an idiot lol
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Dubds, my favorite is when its all original, with a 400 small block, just cause the fender says 8/400 they don't know that the 400 in 72 was a big block, or if it's a K truck with a 454. Or the rare three door suburban. Just a few of the ones that catch my eye
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Dubds, my favorite is when its all original, with a 400 small block, just cause the fender says 8/400 they don't know that the 400 in 72 was a big block, or if it's a K truck with a 454. Or the rare three door suburban. Just a few of the ones that catch my eye
Yup, I've only been buy/selling only classic gm's for 16 years now, so not long compared to some guys here but I'm actually getting tired of dealing with sellers these days who don't understand the meaning of various terminology in the industry lol Just dealing with some people gives me a headache wondering how they can be so daft. And the guys jumping on the bandwagon who are agreeing with these other guys just makes it more difficult as less and less buyers understand what's real and what's emblished now.
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I actually had the husband of one of my wife's friends argue with me about the 400 sbc being available in a 72, after I showed him in lmc truck,and looked it up online on two different websites. And he is a mechanic/ car trader
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Camaro you mean? Lol I've never seen any '67-72 actually sell for higher than $30-40g in my area and that's for high dollar customs usually. The mint originals are usually $10-20g range.

The one pet peeve of mine are the guys who claim "all original" when it's had a repait or redone interior, bed wood etc. To me all original means oem paint etc and if it were redone was it done on such a low mileage truck if it were supposedly in such great shape sitting in a barn. Too many people use the original term loosely and others bit on it increasing prices of trucks which normally wouldn't demand it. I argue a bit with people about that, but if I'm paying top dollar it better not be misrepresented to embelish its "value". Then the guys say well the drivetrain is all original so that means the truck is, come on don't be an idiot lol
I think the term I've seen which best describes "original condition" is survivor.

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Maybe after were all done here we can start another oil thread?
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I just picked up my second Burb. I paid $2000 for it.
It now has a $6000 price tag on it.
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The one pet peeve of mine are the guys who claim "all original" when it's had a repait or redone interior, bed wood etc. To me all original means oem paint etc and if it were redone was it done on such a low mileage truck if it were supposedly in such great shape sitting in a barn. Too many people use the original term loosely and others bit on it increasing prices of trucks which normally wouldn't demand it.
Well there are two uses of it in my mind:

- Original, which is what you mean
- Original condition, which is restored to what it originally would have looked like

This not being the NCRS, I won't go into overspray and so on. But our bed wood in "original" condition is painted body color. My mirrors are white. So, like new in form and condition, that's "original condition".

Note that unless they had the Corvette option, no "restored to original condition" trucks should have chrome air cleaners, rocker covers, or billet combination valves!
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Well for those thinking that their truck is going to be a retirement fund they should recheck or rethink a 10 year forecast with respect to the popularity of this kind of technology and transportation.
As has been mentioned several times...the classic car and truck industry will largely (not completely) die with us. Our kids and grandkids for the better part aren't interested in this stuff. Most have an absolutely minimum amount of interest in nostalgia, particularly of this kind and they will be the ones who would have been the potential buyers and successors....and in most cases, they won't be, at least based on all showing trends these days. They might however, be interested in your vintage laptop or sony clie' or any vintage video game terminal you might have.
On top of that we, as a group, aren't getting any younger so there is a coming sunset on a lot of this hobby and with it...will go the values in all likelihood.
So remember, enjoy your truck (or classic car) and don't put any money into it that you aren't willing to lose.
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This is an interesting topic because if you look at the Craigslist find threads almost every time there is a nice truck shown, I read guys saying that it's overpriced at the $8-$15,000 range, even the restored trucks, until they are trying to sell their trucks.
So I am guess that this question may be good for parts companies and our vendors for those looking at their trucks as an investment, cause to these companies our trucks are worth a whole lot more than we are valueing them.
Look at the higher prices in parts and how many projects swallow up several thousands just to sit and never be finished and not even close to paint.
I am a High End painter and Color Consultant who also work with Realitors and I have customers all the time that will ask what kind of valve a paint job and upgrades will bring to their homes.
Don't misunderstand me here, your money, your time to do as you wish.
Also guessing they may be worth on the high end, 25% of the money and time put into them for now, unless you are a Car Flipper or vendor, from what I'm reading on here.
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Well this one is worth 15k to me and more after 22" wheels and even more after a sbc and a heck of a lot more when bagged and dragging.
It's worth 15K to me too. After all the typical mods, IMO, no longer unique, still be worth around 15K. Its your truck, your money.
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