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Old 04-07-2015, 01:30 AM   #601
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

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Thanks for the details and pictures, your at a good point for me right now as I may be doing a tilt on mine soon. Do you know how much weight you will be able to tilt? Are you going to use hydraulic or electric ram? Your fab skills are top notch.
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I'm not sure of the weight capacity of the lift, but it's a lot...the hydraulic ram is fairly large! I'm trying to build this out so it's simply heavier/stouter than I'll ever need.

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Looks real nice.
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Cool, glad ya like...thanks Kim!


Not much more to add, but finished the lower pivot mounts. There will be 3/8" rubber strips between the frame and bed feet, hence the gap between feet and frame/gusset...hope to quiet some of the rattling.
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:44 PM   #602
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Great work guys! That should be able to lift more than you can haul!
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Old 04-07-2015, 07:05 PM   #603
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We've been struggling with exhaust clearance issues with the clutch slave, PTO, and even engine to frame (modified mounts to lower engine in chassis). Stock exhaust manifolds still fit (barely), but are my least favorite option.
We brought a set of fenderwell headers in to try, but a lot of inner fender would have to disappear to let these work...but we're kinda digging the look!
Nice project guys! looking real good. Who makes these headers? and is that a 454 Gen 4 block you got them on?

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Old 04-13-2015, 02:13 AM   #604
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Great work guys! That should be able to lift more than you can haul!
Thanks DW! I think you're right on the lift vs. haul deal!

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Nice project guys! looking real good. Who makes these headers? and is that a 454 Gen 4 block you got them on?
Thanks ptc...Gen IV block with '55-'57 chevy fenderwell headers from Speedway Motors...kinda hard to beat at $319/pair (ceramic coated).



We finished up the lift mounts today (upper pivots)...boxed the front two feet of the bed frame and welded in sleeves. The pins slid right in and the scissor part of the lift is done!
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Old 04-13-2015, 08:32 AM   #605
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As always very nice clean work.
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Old 04-13-2015, 03:07 PM   #606
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Nice thanks for the info.... just may do that with mine so I can run electric cut-outs too. For track days I want to just run straight "FIRE" out the sides behind the front tires like a zoomie !!!!!
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As always very nice clean work.
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Appreciate that Kim.

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Nice thanks for the info.... just may do that with mine so I can run electric cut-outs too. For track days I want to just run straight "FIRE" out the sides behind the front tires like a zoomie !!!!!





We added a bit more tonight, welding in a support bar for the back of the lift which is also the upper rear shock mount...then had to fit the sway bar in before figuring out where the shocks would lay, but we like how it all fell into place.
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Old 04-14-2015, 06:21 AM   #608
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Nice, heavy duty, useful and cool looking all at the same time!
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Very nice! Those shocks are sweet!
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Old 04-15-2015, 12:27 AM   #610
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Old 04-17-2015, 02:00 AM   #611
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Working out sway bar details...apparently a 1 9/16" bar is unheard of, couldn't find replacement bushings anywhere. We ended up ordering some 1 1/2" bushings...should be fine.
Made the sway bar links/tabs tonight...baby steps.
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

That sure looks nice.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:15 AM   #613
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Re: 1958 Apache 38 Dually Dump Project

Thanks Kim.


Fab work on the bed is done. We pulled it off for deburring and final smoothing, hope to get it into the sand blasters this next week. Now, we'll jump back into the cab again.
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It,s going to have a great stance.
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Chassis work is incredible guys!.... very nice job! ]

Ive got a friend that is doing a bunch of fab-work for CDF right now. I know our firefighters would love to have a fleet of trucks looking like this!!!
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It,s going to have a great stance.
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We hope so Kim. Kinda tall in the last pic, it sits a fair amount higher with the bed off the chassis...we're making bets over here on how much this is going to end up weighing.

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Ive got a friend that is doing a bunch of fab-work for CDF right now. I know our firefighters would love to have a fleet of trucks looking like this!!!
Thanks ptc. I hope your friend works alot faster than we do...fire season is about there.




While welding/smoothing some seams on the front of the bed, we had to torch just a few more holes.
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Old 04-26-2015, 12:37 AM   #617
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Got the bed and scissors cleaned up...knocking off dingleberries, and a bit of smoothing.
We hauled those to the sand blasters today for both cleaning and painting...blast to white metal, primer, and heavy gloss black paint (industrial level, these guys do alot of oil field stuff).
We decided to go ahead and prep and paint the rear of the frame next (more de-dingleberrying and smoothing right now), in preparation for the finished bed coming back...maybe within this next week.
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Good progress! Is that your yard? Nice...great tow Burb too.
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Real nice.
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Good progress! Is that your yard? Nice...great tow Burb too.
Thanks AD! Yep, front yard. The burb is our go to ride when chasing/working with parts on the projects.

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Trying to get there...thanks!
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Old 04-28-2015, 10:20 PM   #621
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Checked in on progress with the bed today...parts are blasted, should be painted within a day or two.
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Nice and clean.
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Yea, the blasters did a great job.

While we're waiting on the bed to be painted (should pick it up Sat.), my son smoothed some glaze into the low spots and laid the first coat of black onto the rear frame rails...
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Old 05-02-2015, 07:27 PM   #624
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Picked up the bed and scissors today, very happy with the work done.

Primer coat+couple coats of black+clear coat=

We'll let it sit for a couple days to fully cure before fooling with it too much.
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Looks great.
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