The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network







Register or Log In To remove these advertisements.

Go Back   The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network > 47 - Current classic GM Trucks > The 1967 - 1972 Chevrolet & GMC Pickups Message Board

Web 67-72chevytrucks.com


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-18-2012, 02:22 PM   #26
cdowns
Senior Member
 
cdowns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: daytonabeach
Posts: 22,956
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

i would take all the spark plug cables off put them on a bench and WITH THE SERVICE MANUAL install them one at a time and see if there is any difference
__________________
71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane

MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF

DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK

TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY
cdowns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2012, 03:04 PM   #27
biggestjohn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Russiaville
Posts: 203
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

2 3 5 8 are feed by the left (drivers side) of the carb. If you are getting fuel, but no ignition, your plugs will be very wet. If they are dry, you are not getting fuel. I would suspect that the cylinders are running very rich, and gas fouled the plugs, but without seeing (hint) its hard to say.

Now all you have to figure out is why?
__________________
......its not what your askin', its what your gettin'....

.......every time I screw up, I learn something. Needless to say, I'm learning all the time............
biggestjohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2012, 03:30 PM   #28
biggestjohn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Russiaville
Posts: 203
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

After reading your posts thru again, I'm starting to suspect that there is a problem in your main fuel circuit.

It has been over 20 years since I had a 2 bbl apart, but if memory serves me correctly, when you remove the ventris, there are 2 check balls under there. Are they clean, and free to move? Are they there? Are the circuits clear?
You say that when you rev it up, it seems to run on all eight, so that would rule out the enrichment(power valve) You also say that when you move the throttles, you see fuel squirt out, so that rules out that circuit.
__________________
......its not what your askin', its what your gettin'....

.......every time I screw up, I learn something. Needless to say, I'm learning all the time............
biggestjohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2012, 04:04 PM   #29
biggestjohn
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Russiaville
Posts: 203
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

Unfortunately, I don't have a 2bbl to tear apart, but looking at my Rochester carb book, I may be in error on the 2 check balls. Its hard to tell with the crappy schematics. Irregardless, when you take it apart, check every passage. Make sure that they are all flowing freely. Nothing in or behind the jets, idle passages clear. Bleed tube clear on ventris.........

I significantly doubt that this is a spark issue.
__________________
......its not what your askin', its what your gettin'....

.......every time I screw up, I learn something. Needless to say, I'm learning all the time............
biggestjohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2012, 04:06 PM   #30
jd7
Registered User
 
jd7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: canoga park, ca.
Posts: 120
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

I keep saying propane because you can control it better and it wont start a fire if your arcing somewhere. what do the plugs look like. It really sounds like fuel starvation. Have you checked the chain for play ? Pull the cap and rock the crank back and forth distributor should move with it.I am a mechanic by trade so i ask about basics they will lead you to the problem.I'm sorry if I sound abrupt
jd7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2012, 06:48 PM   #31
dlh760
Registered User
 
dlh760's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: valley center,ca
Posts: 124
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

Problem has been fixed after I put my carb back together and back on it is running much better,really rich now but better. I am a mechanic by trade as well but had never come across anything like this before. I appreciate everybody's input and help. Dan
Posted via Mobile Device
__________________
68 Chevy c10 longbed 307 with 305 H.O. heads,edelbrock performer intake,edelbrock performer plus cam,hei,Holley 650 double pumper and th400. Daily driver. It hauls butt,it hauls my butt where I need to go
dlh760 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 05:26 PM   #32
Claus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

I'm experiencing the same problem on my sbc 350,

I bought a project truck with a 350 and electronic ignition, had the heads checked, new plugs, 4 ported edelbrock carb.

the engine runs rough, with only little torque, pulled plugs and they are not wet or black.

it sounds like all cylinders are firing, but in the right sequence, have double checked firing order.

1 8 4 3 6 5 7 2, it seem odd that every other cylinder is misfiring

1 8 4 3 6 5 7 2

Have spark on all 8 plugs, by grounding individual leads one by one, while running, I narrowed it down to cylinder 2 8 3 5 can be grounded without the engine changing sound, which seem to me like a problem.

Hope someone can help.
Claus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 08:11 PM   #33
Moose Monkey
Registered User
 
Moose Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: south jersey
Posts: 118
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

#27 is the answer, I hope
Moose Monkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 08:20 PM   #34
Moose Monkey
Registered User
 
Moose Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: south jersey
Posts: 118
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

Sorry, not much of answer. If those cylinder's are firing spark good, just might be fuel. Had
Elderbrock crack inside, sucking to much air.would not idle, very bad time starting
Moose Monkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 08:37 PM   #35
garyd1961
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Henderson NC
Posts: 975
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

Do you have a duel plane intake? Have you tried turning the motor over with the spark plugs out of the motor and grounded on the outside to see if they actually fire or not? If you have a duel plane intake I suspect one side of your carb is not working.
garyd1961 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 09:07 PM   #36
GASoline71
"I ain't nobody, dork."
 
GASoline71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Whidbey Island, Washington
Posts: 8,921
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

Check your spark plug gap. With an HEI you need to open up the gap to at least .045

Gary
__________________
'cuz chicks dig scars...

My 1972 GMC 1500 Super Custom (Creeping Death) "long term" build thread.

The Rebuild of Creeping Death after the wreck

Quote:
Originally Posted by LONGHAIR View Post
I would never rebuild a 305.
Quote:
Originally Posted by prostreetC-10 View Post
I love using vacuum gauges as part of the carb tuning process. I hook the gauge to the inside of my garbage can and leave it there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marv D View Post
Remember Murphys 2nd law of mechanical relationships... "OPPOSING COMPONENTS ATTEMPTING TO OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE, AT THE SAME TIME, GENERALLY END UP OCCUPYING ADJOINING SPACE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE OIL PAN"
Quote:
Originally Posted by cableguy0 View Post
Its cheaper to listen to advice given when you ask for help than it is to ignore everyone and wait for carnage.
GASoline71 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-21-2017, 10:24 PM   #37
volksworld
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: formerly NY currentlyNC
Posts: 389
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

not looking at a small block as we speak but does anything tap into one runner of the manifold like a brake booster hose? a small leak could kill that cylinder or a major one(blown booster diaphram?) might affect the whole manifold plane....if you got a 4 hole 1 inch spacer and put the carb on backwards you could see if the 4 dead cylinders suddenly became the live ones...then you'd know its a carb issue
__________________
1970 short step c10 leaf spring 454
volksworld is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2017, 09:35 AM   #38
Moose Monkey
Registered User
 
Moose Monkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: south jersey
Posts: 118
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

Volksworld what a great idea
Moose Monkey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-22-2017, 01:54 PM   #39
Claus
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 2
Re: small block firing on every other cylinder in firing order

Hi Guys

it ended up being one side of the carburetor that was blocked, that became clear after your feedback and I took another look at the intake manifold, cylinder 2-8-3-5 is all in the same side of the carb.

I was able to clear out the block, now the engine runs like a champ.

Thanks for sharing your ideas,
Claus is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 1997-2022 67-72chevytrucks.com