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Old 04-30-2013, 07:44 PM   #1
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5000 series. Budd wheels always seem to look better.
I'd love to find one of these, It would be the perfect thing to pull my tractor around with.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:51 PM   #2
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Interesting pictures. Do you know for sure that they are 5000's? Especially the truck in the 2nd picture, if it had a 478 it could very well be a 6500.

That truck sure reminds me of my old 6500. Even right down to the Lumber it is hauling. I drove a '62 GMC 6500 back in the '70's.

Budd Wheels (Disc) vs Dayton Wheels (Spokes). It's a West Coast thing vs an East Coast thing. You will find that most truckers in the West prefered Budd's and most in the East prefer Daytons. I've been studying that for years and don't really know the answer why. I personally, from the East, follow along with the other East Coasters and prefer Daytons, lol. Even the guys that work on them seem to follow the same suit. We had another debate on them not to long ago on the other truck board.

Both those trucks are either '64 or '65's. By sight, there is really no way of telling.

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Old 04-29-2013, 12:03 AM   #3
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No one on my side of the hill likes spokes, I ended up with them on the one C80 and the hyster 25 ton, for me they are kind of a novelty. Budds on all my stuff are kind of the same old same old thing. I painted one of mine up real purdy couple days ago, working my way around the truck.
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Old 04-30-2013, 09:42 PM   #4
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Interesting pictures. Do you know for sure that they are 5000's? Especially the truck in the 2nd picture, if it had a 478 it could very well be a 6500.



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THey are both 5000 series, 6000 series trucks have the extra large front bumpers. Here is a nice C 80 I wouldn't mind owning. Note this is the heavy duty 11,000 lb front axle version, the front fenders are much wider than standard 64-66 C 50-60-80 fenders. This type of truck would typically have full air brakes and the heavy duty 23,000 lb rear axle.Sorry, thats all I have of this truck.
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:45 AM   #5
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THey are both 5000 series, 6000 series trucks have the extra large front bumpers.
Interesting that you mentioned the Front Bumper. That was the only thing that I wasn't sure about. I had believed that my Front Bumper was different and was larger. You just taught me something. I never realized that it was a tell-tale sign of a 6000 Series truck.

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Old 05-02-2013, 07:46 PM   #6
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Hard to tell, but very possible, there were many different design cast spoke wheels. Look for the data plate near the kick panel. What is your GVW? Do you have air brakes and the 23,000 rear axle? Most air trucks with the 23 rear have the 11 front.
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I had believed that my Front Bumper was different and was larger.
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Here is the large bumper GMC. These trucks are pretty rare, the heavier the GVW, the lower the production numbers. Not sure of the ratio, but I would say 1 6500 series built for 100 4000 series built. This 6500 has the big Eaton 23,000 lb rear axle and probably the 11,000 lb front.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:47 AM   #8
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Here is the large bumper GMC. These trucks are pretty rare, the heavier the GVW, the lower the production numbers. Not sure of the ratio, but I would say 1 6500 series built for 100 4000 series built. This 6500 has the big Eaton 23,000 lb rear axle and probably the 11,000 lb front.
As far as I can see that Front Bumper looks like the one. I sure do agree that they are pretty rare. I drove that truck for 3 years and could never find another 6500 in my travels. That was back in the early to mid 70's. Still to this day, in all my travels from Maine to Florida and through countless junk yards, I still haven't found another. If it weren't for the picture that you have posted and one or two others that I have just found in the last couple of years, I would not have even seen an image of another one.

I wasn't into numbers back then, but I remember the weight and capacity painted on the side of the truck adding up to 32,000. I agree that it was 11 Fronts and 23 Rears.

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Old 04-30-2013, 05:05 PM   #9
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found this on the net ........... eeeeeeeh yeah eeeeh i mean eeeeh
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That turned into pacific motor truck.
Or PMT which was a big GM auto transporter
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Factorystock, how do you tell the difference between the 9000 axle and the 11 axle, my 1965 C80 has the wide fenders and cupped bearing caps.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:13 PM   #12
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here is a old story,, I remember while in college Springfield MO seeing rows and rows of the trucks/trailers. when they went out of business...

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here is a old story,, I remember while in college Springfield MO seeing rows and rows of the trucks/trailers. when they went out of business...

Campbell 66 Express. These companies were dropping off and it never really hit me as it was happening. Look back and you really see it
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Lolololol. ^^^^
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I know the "p" in Campbell is silent,but they must have thought the "b" was too. Oh well,no worse than a gecko for Geico. "Hey,let's use this cuz it almost rhymes"
I wonder how many customers were pleased to be humped. heh heh
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A few more golden oldies, hope I didn't dupilcate any others.
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A few more I forgot.
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Interesting pictures.

First one is a nice Heavy Medium.

Second one only has 5 Lugs on the Front. That's pretty different for a Tandem. Interesting place for a Spare too. We were just talking about Spares.

Third is a nice Heavy '62. Just about has to be a C-80. Wonder what is under the hood?

Fourth one looks Detroit powered. Probably a 4-71.

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Picture #7: Now which one would I take. The Corvette? or the Titan?

...hard choice.


(OK, I'm waiting for someone to say neither. ...they'll take the girl).
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Hey Bill, I liked your over view so much I thought I'd give you some more, different people see different things. Its like pic number 4, look at the way that cheesey little muffler is mounted like that thing is going to do that 471 any good anyway, and see the explosive placards on the trailer. I like the southwest tractor the best on this batch.
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Yeah, that Southwest tractor is nice. Under it looks like another 6500. Y'all are really finding them lately.

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I've tried to google part of that southwest address on the building but have not had any luck yet. Anyone got any ideas on state and location?
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Other than what's on the sign, the only other indication I can see is the Spoke Wheels which, of course, usually means East Coast.

The truck looks brand new and I can't tell if it is a '60 or a '61, but I see 3 newer vehicles there. Two are '62 Chevy cars.

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Another classic early 60's C 80.
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