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**guyryan100** · 10-09-2005, 06:02 PM

Having trouble with '89 Camaro w/ 305. We've got power to the coil, power from coil to distributer, but no spark. Plugs and wires look ok. We've replaced the cap, rotor, coil, and ignition control module. And the rotor is turning fine. Also, we've got 12 volts coming out of coil when ignition is in Run, and about 10 when the starter is turning.

plenty of fuel too.

Any ideas?

70 shorty · 10-09-2005, 07:03 PM

The first thing you need to do is spell Camaro right. Sorry just sort of a pet peeve as a former Camaro owner. Also, sorry I'm not sure what is the problem with yours. Mine was an 81 so pretty different from yours.

piecesparts · 10-09-2005, 07:46 PM

Did you change out the pickup coil inside the distributor? Thats the little round thing at the bottom of the unit that the shaft goes through. I have had one of those go out before and it had to be replaced.

Brainchild · 10-09-2005, 08:03 PM

Make sure there aren't any wires inside the dizzy shorting out to the base

***Josh*** · 10-09-2005, 08:23 PM

TBI or TPI?

**N2TRUX** · 10-09-2005, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70 shorty

The first thing you need to do is spell Camaro right. Sorry just sort of a pet peeve as a former Camaro owner. Also, sorry I'm not sure what is the problem with yours. Mine was an 81 so pretty different from yours.

I fixed the spelling. Now maybe I can offer a suggestion of adding a smilie after a post so he doesn't think your being rude....

**guyryan100** · 10-09-2005, 09:06 PM

Sorry about the spelling there - my spellings not that great as it is and the faster I type the worse it gets! That pickup coil is the one thing we haven't replaced - I will check in to that. Does the dist have to be pulled out to replace it?

I'm not sure if it's TBI or TPI because I don't know the difference - it's the injection that looks like a carberator. And you can see the jets spraying gas in so I know it has fuel.

70chevc10 · 10-09-2005, 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guyryan100

I'm not sure if it's TBI or TPI because I don't know the difference - it's the injection that looks like a carberator. And you can see the jets spraying gas in so I know it has fuel.

I beleive thats TBI my friend

Brainchild · 10-09-2005, 11:50 PM

Yes that sounds like a TBI

Not sure it'll store any codes,but it's easy to check and see.You might get lucky and the car will tell you what's wrong

http://www.troublecodes.net/GM/

68C15 · 10-10-2005, 06:59 AM

your throttle body injection is spraying fuel so the ECM is getting a signal from the pick-up coil. when in the "start" mode the module controls the spark. then when it reaches 400 RPM the ECM takes over with the timing control. (then it uses the module as a triggering device.
I say the module is toast.

although it is possible the coil is weak. check to see if the coil is being triggered. use a test light between the WHITE wire of the coil & ground. while cranking it should flash. if it does the coil may have a open in the primary side. if not the module is bad.

10-09-2005, 06:02 PM	#1
guyryan100 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 466	off topic - need quick help on Camaro Having trouble with '89 Camaro w/ 305. We've got power to the coil, power from coil to distributer, but no spark. Plugs and wires look ok. We've replaced the cap, rotor, coil, and ignition control module. And the rotor is turning fine. Also, we've got 12 volts coming out of coil when ignition is in Run, and about 10 when the starter is turning. plenty of fuel too. Any ideas? Last edited by N2TRUX; 10-09-2005 at 08:38 PM.

10-09-2005, 07:03 PM	#2
70 shorty Where's my beer? Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Glen Allen, VA Posts: 1,768	The first thing you need to do is spell Camaro right. Sorry just sort of a pet peeve as a former Camaro owner. Also, sorry I'm not sure what is the problem with yours. Mine was an 81 so pretty different from yours. __________________ 70 C10, shortstep, .30 over 250,Hurst shifted 3 spd parts hauler. Holley 390, Clifford Intake, Header, ported cylinder head, unknown bigger cam. 79 Corvette L82, 4 spd, black, red interior, headers, flowmasters, and unkown bigger cam. '03 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.0 4x4 daily driver. 165K miles, and runs great '08 Tahoe LTZ 4x4 155K

10-09-2005, 08:03 PM	#4
Brainchild Still drivin' a Rat Rod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Monett Missouri Posts: 4,925	Make sure there aren't any wires inside the dizzy shorting out to the base __________________ Rusty Member #13872 Instead of saying.....you are a discomfort in the back of my front.....one should be able to say...... you are a pain in the a$# 71 GMC LWB 49 Chevy 85 Chevy G20 Check out my website Last edited by Brainchild; 10-09-2005 at 08:04 PM.

10-09-2005, 08:23 PM	#5
*Josh* He's got mean nasty FANGS! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 6,508	TBI or TPI? __________________ 2004 K2500 Burb 1999 C3500 1985 Cutlass Supreme 1969 C-10 1967 C-10 Panel josh@67-72chevytrucks.com

10-09-2005, 11:50 PM	#9
Brainchild Still drivin' a Rat Rod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Monett Missouri Posts: 4,925	Yes that sounds like a TBI Not sure it'll store any codes,but it's easy to check and see.You might get lucky and the car will tell you what's wrong http://www.troublecodes.net/GM/ __________________ Rusty Member #13872 Instead of saying.....you are a discomfort in the back of my front.....one should be able to say...... you are a pain in the a$# 71 GMC LWB 49 Chevy 85 Chevy G20 Check out my website Last edited by Brainchild; 10-09-2005 at 11:51 PM.

10-09-2005, 07:46 PM	#3
piecesparts Parts and more parts Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lebo, Kansas (middle of nowhere Posts: 6,821	Did you change out the pickup coil inside the distributor? Thats the little round thing at the bottom of the unit that the shaft goes through. I have had one of those go out before and it had to be replaced.

10-09-2005, 09:06 PM	#7
guyryan100 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cumming, GA Posts: 466	Sorry about the spelling there - my spellings not that great as it is and the faster I type the worse it gets! That pickup coil is the one thing we haven't replaced - I will check in to that. Does the dist have to be pulled out to replace it? I'm not sure if it's TBI or TPI because I don't know the difference - it's the injection that looks like a carberator. And you can see the jets spraying gas in so I know it has fuel.

10-10-2005, 06:59 AM	#10
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	your throttle body injection is spraying fuel so the ECM is getting a signal from the pick-up coil. when in the "start" mode the module controls the spark. then when it reaches 400 RPM the ECM takes over with the timing control. (then it uses the module as a triggering device. I say the module is toast. although it is possible the coil is weak. check to see if the coil is being triggered. use a test light between the WHITE wire of the coil & ground. while cranking it should flash. if it does the coil may have a open in the primary side. if not the module is bad. __________________ Man rule #77...if you own a 67 stepside with a caddy 472 you will never be in danger of loosing you man card



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