Who Has/Wants Rear Disk Brakes? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

cwilkie · 08-09-2005, 03:45 PM

I am gathering information on rear disk brakes. Who of you have them on your trucks? What I have found so far is I need the following parts:

1. Rear disk brake kit (rotors, calipers, caliper brackets, rubber brake hose kit and all mounting hardware.)

2. Disc/disc proportioning valve

3. Rear disk brake hoses

4. Rear disk emergency brake cable

Are these the exact parts I need? Are there any more? Do I need another master cylinder or booster? Who has the best prices. I have a front disk conversion on my truck which works great. After my 700r4 is installed I want to work on my rear brakes. Please let me know.

Chance

shifty · 08-09-2005, 05:22 PM

I don't know if this will help, but just a suggestion: There is a page in the FAQ last I looked and it had a full rundown on the disc conversion for the rear of a truck. There are some bolt-in plates you can get to make it all work right. Someone even put pictures of the install on their truck.

neonlarry · 08-09-2005, 05:41 PM

You should use a disc\disc master. Also Rubber brake hose kit and rear disc brake hoses should be one and the same.
Check out this post on master:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php3?t=114966

**hilljob26** · 08-09-2005, 06:57 PM

i used a disc/disc prop valve and a corvette master,it works fine

71meangreenc10 · 08-09-2005, 07:18 PM

I bought my kit from ccp, the kit came with (everything) but,,,,,brass adapters for the lines to the new hoses, bought the prop valve from ccp, and bought the master cyl from master power brakes, its a pain in the butt to bleed the rears and ensure there adjusted properly but after they are on and working, it feels like I took off 500 lbs from the rear end and it stops on a dime.....

Smitty

Low69CST · 08-09-2005, 08:10 PM

I put a disc brake rear out of a car into mine. Pro's to that was having parts available at any parts store and having a style of disc and caliper that matched the front. I also changed the way the lines ran. Instead of having 3 flex lines (one from Frame to rear end, 2 from rear end to each caliper) i routed the lines around the frame ran a flex line from the frame to each caliper.

Joe67 · 08-09-2005, 08:14 PM

My 12 bolt is being rebuilt with custom rear caliper brackets made by a board member. I am using 1972 Blazer front calipers in the rear. I was told it should accept a Cadillac brake rotor of some kind, any idea which years may work?

I'll have the axle assy back very soon and will take some measurements.

walker · 08-09-2005, 08:15 PM

Low69, just curious about your rear. What did you do for brackets to mount the calipers, and what rear end do you have. I would love to have four wheel disks, but am not willing to shell out hundreds for the brackets. I could cut my own brackets out of steel, but simply don't have time to design and play around with it right now.
Thanks, Andy.

Low69CST · 08-09-2005, 08:15 PM

I believe late-70's Seville's?

Low69CST · 08-09-2005, 08:23 PM

Walker,
I used the rear out of a 74 Chrysler Imperial 440. It had a 9.25" stump and 12" discs. I like the big discs and the big ring gear since I got a big motor. Bad parts are it has a 4.5" bolt circle and the rotors are discontinued. My rotors were good, so i'm fine for now, and I got the bolt pattern redrilled to the truck pattern. All the disc brackets are the original stuff. I did custom brake lines to make it work. If you want I have alot of hi-res pictures I can email you if you want to see them.

71meangreenc10 · 08-09-2005, 08:42 PM

80-85 seville are the ones i have

jhwkns · 08-09-2005, 09:13 PM

I bought a 9" ford disk brake axle at the local pic-a-part $150 complete... rotors, calipers, parking brakes. It came off of a Lincoln. I bought it for my stock car, but I wouldn't hesitate to use one on a truck. Nine inch fords are real strong, changing gears is easy, and parts for them are less expensive than any other type axle.

modifiedGMC · 08-09-2005, 09:34 PM

I used a disc rear out of a 1979 cadillac fleetwood. It has the same bolt pattern as the 79 five lug front end I used but I did have to weld some mounts on it for thetrailing arms. As for brake lines I used the ones on the caddy rearend even the flex hose to the frame it hooked right up. I used the prop valve off the caddy since it was four wheel disc. I used the original manual master on the truck but it's about to be changed to power with a different master.

Joe67 · 08-09-2005, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71meangreenc10

80-85 seville are the ones i have

Thanks. What calipers are you running?

walker · 08-11-2005, 07:56 PM

Hey 67c-10, who made your caliper brackets? I'd like to see how much a pair are, or if he'd be willing to post a drawing with dimensions.
THanks, Andy

Chevy_Man · 08-11-2005, 08:09 PM

I have something that i found that ill share with yall....Its a web site that gives you steps on how to change to rear disc and what parts to use. i have not went through the steps on my truck yet but from this does not sound tooo bad, I just need to get me the mounting plates or templets so i can make my own brakets. here yall go guys hope it helps.
http://www.coloradok5.com/atrondiskbrakes.shtml

Eric

walker · 08-11-2005, 10:16 PM

Chevy man, if you run across those templates let me know. It does not look too tough to come up with a design, but if I can find a predesigned bracket, all the better.

aboyer · 08-12-2005, 12:26 AM

I have done a little research so far. I haven't purchased a bracket yet, but I have looked up the prices and part numbers to probably make this work. With a little digging on the internet, I was able to find out what caliper/rotors, brake hose and such. These are all Napa part numbers, with current prices

2x--Caliper--80-85 Cadillac Seville with E-Brake--46.49 ($25+ with core charge)
2x--Rotors--80-85 Cadillac Seville--TS4885977--$27.99
2x--Brake hose--Left/Right Rear-4136961--$11.69

Since I haven't moved forward with the kit build up, I belive you need brake cables for the emergency brake. Those part numbers are

RR--93429--$32.49
LR--93292--$29.99

Hopefully this helps someone else out.

Adam

aboyer · 08-12-2005, 12:29 AM

One thing I forgot to mention, these kits sell for $600-$700. If you don't mind sourcing out the brackets, you can put together a pretty similiar kit for $350.00.

Thats my plan at least....

Bill72BB · 08-12-2005, 12:36 AM

Here is a link to rear dics brake kits http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index7.html

Joe67 · 08-12-2005, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walker

Hey 67c-10, who made your caliper brackets? I'd like to see how much a pair are, or if he'd be willing to post a drawing with dimensions.
THanks, Andy

Andy - they were fabbed up by board member jmanz69 a while back.

Lumpy33 · 08-12-2005, 09:55 PM

this may work..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-Re...QQcmdZViewItem

Lumpy33
72 c10 step

Joe67 · 08-13-2005, 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lumpy33

this may work..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-Re...QQcmdZViewItem

Lumpy33
72 c10 step

Interesting

Quote:

The bolt spacings are w-3 1/8 and h-2 7/16. The centerbore is 2 7/8

My '67 rear end is 3.5" between the mounting bolts and I think they are a square, not a rectangle as this cadddy set appears to be?

Frizzle Fry · 08-13-2005, 12:54 AM

I bought machining templates for the caliper brackets off eBay. It includes the templetes for two plates per side, a couple expolded views of the assembly, and a bill of materials required. My issue is that the kit was designed for 6-lug and I have 5x5. I just need to find rotors I can use. I'd scan them in for you guys, but they are 11x17 and I have a feed through scanner.

They call out:

'88 4x4 1/2t front rotor
'83 Camaro rear calipers
'88 S10 front pads

I have the demensions of the rotors they mention, so I'll just match those in a five-lug version.

drink2mny · 08-13-2005, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill72BB

Here is a link to rear dics brake kits http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index7.html

Thank You Bill..
Yes I have them on my '72, and installed all kits on the site on various trucks through out the years...

08-09-2005, 03:45 PM	#1
cwilkie Chance Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Belcourt ,ND, USA Posts: 750	Who Has/Wants Rear Disk Brakes? I am gathering information on rear disk brakes. Who of you have them on your trucks? What I have found so far is I need the following parts: 1. Rear disk brake kit (rotors, calipers, caliper brackets, rubber brake hose kit and all mounting hardware.) 2. Disc/disc proportioning valve 3. Rear disk brake hoses 4. Rear disk emergency brake cable Are these the exact parts I need? Are there any more? Do I need another master cylinder or booster? Who has the best prices. I have a front disk conversion on my truck which works great. After my 700r4 is installed I want to work on my rear brakes. Please let me know. Chance __________________ 1968 Chevrolet Stepside BB 396 w/TH400 1972 Chevrolet 3/4 Ton 4x4 BB 496 w/TH400

08-09-2005, 05:22 PM	#2
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	I don't know if this will help, but just a suggestion: There is a page in the FAQ last I looked and it had a full rundown on the disc conversion for the rear of a truck. There are some bolt-in plates you can get to make it all work right. Someone even put pictures of the install on their truck. __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

08-09-2005, 05:41 PM	#3
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,746	You should use a disc\disc master. Also Rubber brake hose kit and rear disc brake hoses should be one and the same. Check out this post on master: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php3?t=114966 __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

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hilljob26 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Gypsum Kansas 67448 Posts: 1,681	i used a disc/disc prop valve and a corvette master,it works fine __________________ 21 2500hd duramax 58 apache HILLJOB GRAPHIX--for all your graphic needs My build thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=542497 LS ENGINE SWAP INFORMATION THREAD http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=377348 4l60 to an NP205 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...43#post3697343

08-09-2005, 07:18 PM	#5
71meangreenc10 Its a Truck Thing...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona Posts: 3,158	I bought my kit from ccp, the kit came with (everything) but,,,,,brass adapters for the lines to the new hoses, bought the prop valve from ccp, and bought the master cyl from master power brakes, its a pain in the butt to bleed the rears and ensure there adjusted properly but after they are on and working, it feels like I took off 500 lbs from the rear end and it stops on a dime..... Smitty __________________ 71 C10 283/3SPD Full Resto 71 GMC 1500 Sierra Grande http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=518599 70 C10 Suburban Former military GSA truck. 72 Chevy Blazer 4X4, Sloppy Jo, Mountain Climber. Wife says no more trucks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707378 72 GMC 1 Ton Motor Home, wife said no more trucks until she saw this one. Gen 3 6.0/4L80E 4.10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=761110 68 GMC Suburban was 3/4 ton, now 1/2.Wife shook her head 71 C30 Wrecker 71 C20 Scott-Bilt As weird as it gets..BB Cheyenne AC Truck 68 GMC Long Stepside. They keep following me home 71 C20 Longhorn/Ole Yellor 69 C30 Former Motor Home, Flat Bed time

08-09-2005, 08:10 PM	#6
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	I put a disc brake rear out of a car into mine. Pro's to that was having parts available at any parts store and having a style of disc and caliper that matched the front. I also changed the way the lines ran. Instead of having 3 flex lines (one from Frame to rear end, 2 from rear end to each caliper) i routed the lines around the frame ran a flex line from the frame to each caliper. __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

08-09-2005, 08:14 PM	#7
Joe67 67 is sold Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Troy, Michigan Posts: 6,738	My 12 bolt is being rebuilt with custom rear caliper brackets made by a board member. I am using 1972 Blazer front calipers in the rear. I was told it should accept a Cadillac brake rotor of some kind, any idea which years may work? I'll have the axle assy back very soon and will take some measurements. __________________ Joe - Formerly 67c10step ------------------------------- 1967 Chevy Stepside - ECE 4/6, fuelcell, 5lug - SOLD gr8lakes - My ebay auctions Click here to order forum apparel :: Click here to become a subscribing member

08-09-2005, 08:15 PM	#8
walker Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: north of Phx AZ about 30 miles Posts: 698	Low69, just curious about your rear. What did you do for brackets to mount the calipers, and what rear end do you have. I would love to have four wheel disks, but am not willing to shell out hundreds for the brackets. I could cut my own brackets out of steel, but simply don't have time to design and play around with it right now. Thanks, Andy. __________________ Andy,Phx AZ '67 C-10 (Ahhh, done at last. Well there is that disk front end I want to put in and...) "23 C-Cab-sold '48 Ford 8N tractor(still working) '67 Scout(Now on the road) '70 MG B.-sold

08-09-2005, 08:15 PM	#9
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	I believe late-70's Seville's? __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

08-09-2005, 08:23 PM	#10
Low69CST Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Frankfort, Kentucky, USA Posts: 2,163	Walker, I used the rear out of a 74 Chrysler Imperial 440. It had a 9.25" stump and 12" discs. I like the big discs and the big ring gear since I got a big motor. Bad parts are it has a 4.5" bolt circle and the rotors are discontinued. My rotors were good, so i'm fine for now, and I got the bolt pattern redrilled to the truck pattern. All the disc brackets are the original stuff. I did custom brake lines to make it work. If you want I have alot of hi-res pictures I can email you if you want to see them. __________________ '69 CST Short fleetside Lowered, 400 small block, 700R4, 4 wheel disc brakes, front sway bar & rear camaro sway bar (in progress) '87 V10 4x4 Short Fleetside Quad Suspension and Dual Tanks

08-09-2005, 08:42 PM	#11
71meangreenc10 Its a Truck Thing...... Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona Posts: 3,158	80-85 seville are the ones i have __________________ 71 C10 283/3SPD Full Resto 71 GMC 1500 Sierra Grande http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=518599 70 C10 Suburban Former military GSA truck. 72 Chevy Blazer 4X4, Sloppy Jo, Mountain Climber. Wife says no more trucks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=707378 72 GMC 1 Ton Motor Home, wife said no more trucks until she saw this one. Gen 3 6.0/4L80E 4.10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=761110 68 GMC Suburban was 3/4 ton, now 1/2.Wife shook her head 71 C30 Wrecker 71 C20 Scott-Bilt As weird as it gets..BB Cheyenne AC Truck 68 GMC Long Stepside. They keep following me home 71 C20 Longhorn/Ole Yellor 69 C30 Former Motor Home, Flat Bed time

08-09-2005, 09:13 PM	#12
jhwkns Registered Cruiser Join Date: May 2002 Location: Las Vegas NV Posts: 2,230	I bought a 9" ford disk brake axle at the local pic-a-part $150 complete... rotors, calipers, parking brakes. It came off of a Lincoln. I bought it for my stock car, but I wouldn't hesitate to use one on a truck. Nine inch fords are real strong, changing gears is easy, and parts for them are less expensive than any other type axle. __________________ I intend to live forever. So far, so good.

08-09-2005, 09:34 PM	#13
modifiedGMC Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Walker Co. Alabama Posts: 474	I used a disc rear out of a 1979 cadillac fleetwood. It has the same bolt pattern as the 79 five lug front end I used but I did have to weld some mounts on it for thetrailing arms. As for brake lines I used the ones on the caddy rearend even the flex hose to the frame it hooked right up. I used the prop valve off the caddy since it was four wheel disc. I used the original manual master on the truck but it's about to be changed to power with a different master. __________________ If it don't fit, force it,...If it still don't fit , modify it 'till it does fit !!!

08-11-2005, 07:56 PM	#15
walker Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: north of Phx AZ about 30 miles Posts: 698	Hey 67c-10, who made your caliper brackets? I'd like to see how much a pair are, or if he'd be willing to post a drawing with dimensions. THanks, Andy __________________ Andy,Phx AZ '67 C-10 (Ahhh, done at last. Well there is that disk front end I want to put in and...) "23 C-Cab-sold '48 Ford 8N tractor(still working) '67 Scout(Now on the road) '70 MG B.-sold

08-11-2005, 08:09 PM	#16
Chevy_Man Tightwad Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Louisiana Posts: 408	I have something that i found that ill share with yall....Its a web site that gives you steps on how to change to rear disc and what parts to use. i have not went through the steps on my truck yet but from this does not sound tooo bad, I just need to get me the mounting plates or templets so i can make my own brakets. here yall go guys hope it helps. http://www.coloradok5.com/atrondiskbrakes.shtml Eric



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08-11-2005, 10:16 PM	#17
walker Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: north of Phx AZ about 30 miles Posts: 698	Chevy man, if you run across those templates let me know. It does not look too tough to come up with a design, but if I can find a predesigned bracket, all the better. __________________ Andy,Phx AZ '67 C-10 (Ahhh, done at last. Well there is that disk front end I want to put in and...) "23 C-Cab-sold '48 Ford 8N tractor(still working) '67 Scout(Now on the road) '70 MG B.-sold

08-12-2005, 12:26 AM	#18
aboyer Adam B Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Westfield Posts: 151	I have done a little research so far. I haven't purchased a bracket yet, but I have looked up the prices and part numbers to probably make this work. With a little digging on the internet, I was able to find out what caliper/rotors, brake hose and such. These are all Napa part numbers, with current prices 2x--Caliper--80-85 Cadillac Seville with E-Brake--46.49 ($25+ with core charge) 2x--Rotors--80-85 Cadillac Seville--TS4885977--$27.99 2x--Brake hose--Left/Right Rear-4136961--$11.69 Since I haven't moved forward with the kit build up, I belive you need brake cables for the emergency brake. Those part numbers are RR--93429--$32.49 LR--93292--$29.99 Hopefully this helps someone else out. Adam

08-12-2005, 12:29 AM	#19
aboyer Adam B Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Westfield Posts: 151	One thing I forgot to mention, these kits sell for $600-$700. If you don't mind sourcing out the brackets, you can put together a pretty similiar kit for $350.00. Thats my plan at least....

08-12-2005, 12:36 AM	#20
Bill72BB Thats the Hillbilly way Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Torrance,Ca Posts: 5,980	Here is a link to rear dics brake kits http://www.blackbirdscustomtrucks.com/index7.html __________________ BILL Torrance Calif 90504 Member DUF Club Member Old Farts Club 72 3/4ton Custom Camper BB402/400 trans Dynomax Cerama-coat headers , Hei distributor ,Edelbrock 1411 air,ps,pb,leafsprings ,98 chevy 60/40 seat,S10 shoulder belts tilt,3.54 Dana 60 rear. 16" Eagle wheels with LT265/75 16 tires,Gaylord Lid,H4 headlights with 100W relay conversion. " If I knew I was going to live this long I would have taken better care of myself " Marriage changes passion...suddenly you're in bed with a relative. A GUY'S PRAYER.... Lord, I pray for a nympho with huge boobs who owns a liquor store and likes to fish and hunt and has a Harley .Amen ,

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Lumpy33 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Queen Creek, AZ Posts: 30	this may work.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GM-Re...QQcmdZViewItem Lumpy33 72 c10 step

08-13-2005, 12:54 AM	#24
Frizzle Fry Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hillsboro Oregon Posts: 6,449	I bought machining templates for the caliper brackets off eBay. It includes the templetes for two plates per side, a couple expolded views of the assembly, and a bill of materials required. My issue is that the kit was designed for 6-lug and I have 5x5. I just need to find rotors I can use. I'd scan them in for you guys, but they are 11x17 and I have a feed through scanner. They call out: '88 4x4 1/2t front rotor '83 Camaro rear calipers '88 S10 front pads I have the demensions of the rotors they mention, so I'll just match those in a five-lug version.

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