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Mollzyie · 01-07-2017, 12:23 PM

Could be an exhaust leak at header ? Hopefully guy didn't get on gas really hard while he drove It and screwed something up . Wonder what the engine break in protocol is for that motor ?

Oh well . It's never smooth and easy when u want something really bad .

weq92f · 01-07-2017, 01:02 PM

Dang... Hang in there...

You will benefit from having it at the dealer in this case. GM Tech probably does know better than to kill the engine on break in

so it's likely something simple or maybe an exhaust leak as mentioned.

You can always open the cutouts and not hear anything but the open headers!!!

-klb

72Cheyenne454 · 01-12-2017, 01:46 PM

Well, what's the latest? I'm assuming the news isn't good since we've not heard from you recently.

wshattuck · 01-12-2017, 07:56 PM

sorry for the delay...

gm performance has sent all new lifters, springs, rockers, etc... Butch got most of that installed yesterday and was working to get it all sealed back up to see if the problem is resolved... maybe tomorrow we will see on that. but in the meantime butch is putting the eaton posi, new gears, etc in the rearend!

more to come... hopefully good news... we will see!

will

wshattuck · 01-17-2017, 09:37 PM

update...

today GM Performance Parts decided that after trying everything else, they are now sending us another new crate motor... it should be here tomorrow. I hate that we have to take it all back out and redo it again though... but its gotta be right!!

SO hopefully in the next week we will have this new motor sitting in the truck and running good! I will let yall know when we do...

will

weq92f · 01-18-2017, 12:08 PM

^^^^^^^ Good news then!

Back on track!!

-klb

wshattuck · 01-18-2017, 08:09 PM

man I sure hope so... but while we were waiting on the motor, Butch is installing new gears, bearings, and a Eaton Posi in the rear!!

hopefully good news,,,, soon!!!

**Boog** · 01-18-2017, 08:21 PM

Waiting is always the hard part. Good thing the dealer is installing it as they cannot say it was installed incorrectly and get out of the warranty claim.
I am curious just what went wrong with it. Maybe they will tear it down to investigate it. One thing about it is that truck will be real fun soon.

Like a whole different truck.

wshattuck · 01-18-2017, 08:28 PM

yeah I'm glad that I did have it done there... they been REAL good to work with me on this and have really fought to get GM to make this good! Butch thinks its a CAM bearing but without opening it up he's not sure. it definitely wasn't lifters...

this has been the first big block vehicle I've ever had. the 396 that was in it was OK on power but I cant wait to see what this motor does in this truck!!

will

1972RedNeck · 01-18-2017, 08:45 PM

What gears did it have? What are you putting back in?

wshattuck · 01-18-2017, 08:48 PM

it had 3.73 gears... I went with 3.42. not much difference in gearing but I got them with the posi and all new bearings as cheap as I could just get the eaton posi. so I went ahead and did it all while we were in it.

wshattuck · 01-19-2017, 03:14 PM

update...

as of lunch today the old(bad) motor is out and the new one is already in the truck... now Butch has the reassembly of the accessories, fans, etc to get back on. he hopes to have it running late today or tomorrow...

onebigjohn · 01-19-2017, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wshattuck

miles,
I haven't driven it yet... we hope to have it all buttoned up on Monday. we still had to do some wiring for the electric fans, and work on a couple of other issues. (but I cant wait)

I got a powermaster 150A alternator #57293

the fans and shroud came from old air products. not sure on that part number. I just called them and they set me up with the correct unit. it bolts up perfectly and looks really good. we should have them all wired up and done on Monday.

not sure what I'm going to do with the 396 yet....

updated pic as of today...

will

What air cleaner is that....If you don't mind me asking?
Nice job on the motor change over!

wshattuck · 01-19-2017, 03:39 PM

the air cleaner came off a chevelle is what the guy told me I bought it from...

wshattuck · 01-20-2017, 07:54 PM

update,,,

new new motor in and running... NO weird noises or issue!!! my new fender badges also came in today. If he gets enough tomorrow he said he should get the posi and gears in too... we are SO close to having this upgrade done!!

**Boog** · 01-20-2017, 10:23 PM

Ooh yeah Will. That's the finishing touch right there. Subtle Coolness.

wshattuck · 01-23-2017, 08:05 PM

update...

Great news... new Posi and gears are in! motor is running and running like a top. sounds great and runs real good. that other 502 that we first put in it definitely had a problem!!tomorrow Butch said he should be able to get the exhaust cutouts wired up and do some test drives in it!

will

jessemthompson · 01-23-2017, 09:52 PM

You'll be out marking roads with 2 black patches in no time. Beautiful truck

wshattuck · 01-23-2017, 09:54 PM

yeah I cant wait till that happens!!

**Boog** · 01-23-2017, 11:40 PM

You've gotta do the vid too.

wshattuck · 01-24-2017, 08:59 PM

the day has finally arrived! I got to drive the truck today! its sooo sweet, what a difference! the motor is so smooth and tons of torque... what a huge difference. I have attached a video of it I did today after driving it. of course the exhaust cutouts are open in the video.... I should be able to take it home tomorrow!

http://vid1234.photobucket.com/album...psx2aflfij.mp4

72_swb · 01-24-2017, 09:27 PM

that's awesome. Cant beat the sound of a BB chevy

Great looking truck

**zicc1835** · 01-24-2017, 09:53 PM

that sure is pertie , ill take it

TeamEstep · 01-24-2017, 10:47 PM

Very cool! Love that sound!

**Boog** · 01-24-2017, 11:17 PM

It looks good in there and sounds nasty.

01-07-2017, 12:23 PM	#51
Mollzyie Registered User Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Miami fl Posts: 289	Re: engine upgrade time... Could be an exhaust leak at header ? Hopefully guy didn't get on gas really hard while he drove It and screwed something up . Wonder what the engine break in protocol is for that motor ? Oh well . It's never smooth and easy when u want something really bad . __________________ M.A.G.A. Last edited by Mollzyie; 01-07-2017 at 12:24 PM. Reason: Predictive type

01-07-2017, 01:02 PM	#52
weq92f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 2,860	Re: engine upgrade time... Dang... Hang in there... You will benefit from having it at the dealer in this case. GM Tech probably does know better than to kill the engine on break in so it's likely something simple or maybe an exhaust leak as mentioned. You can always open the cutouts and not hear anything but the open headers!!! -klb __________________ 67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi 07 335 sport turbo 6sp 94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs 99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold 73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend 68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold

01-12-2017, 01:46 PM	#53
72Cheyenne454 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 453	Re: engine upgrade time... Well, what's the latest? I'm assuming the news isn't good since we've not heard from you recently.

01-12-2017, 07:56 PM	#54
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... sorry for the delay... gm performance has sent all new lifters, springs, rockers, etc... Butch got most of that installed yesterday and was working to get it all sealed back up to see if the problem is resolved... maybe tomorrow we will see on that. but in the meantime butch is putting the eaton posi, new gears, etc in the rearend! more to come... hopefully good news... we will see! will __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-17-2017, 09:37 PM	#55
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... update... today GM Performance Parts decided that after trying everything else, they are now sending us another new crate motor... it should be here tomorrow. I hate that we have to take it all back out and redo it again though... but its gotta be right!! SO hopefully in the next week we will have this new motor sitting in the truck and running good! I will let yall know when we do... will __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-18-2017, 12:08 PM	#56
weq92f Registered User Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 2,860	Re: engine upgrade time... ^^^^^^^ Good news then! Back on track!! -klb __________________ 67 C10 fleet fuel injected '70 402, 700r4, 3.73 posi 07 335 sport turbo 6sp 94 Trans Am GT LT1 6sp posi -- sold after 22yrs 99 540 sport V8 6sp -- sold 73 240z L24 4sp -- given to friend 68 C10 step 350/350 3.73 open -- sold

01-18-2017, 08:09 PM	#57
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... man I sure hope so... but while we were waiting on the motor, Butch is installing new gears, bearings, and a Eaton Posi in the rear!! hopefully good news,,,, soon!!! __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-18-2017, 08:21 PM	#58
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 12,947	Re: engine upgrade time... Waiting is always the hard part. Good thing the dealer is installing it as they cannot say it was installed incorrectly and get out of the warranty claim. I am curious just what went wrong with it. Maybe they will tear it down to investigate it. One thing about it is that truck will be real fun soon. Like a whole different truck. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

01-18-2017, 08:28 PM	#59
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... yeah I'm glad that I did have it done there... they been REAL good to work with me on this and have really fought to get GM to make this good! Butch thinks its a CAM bearing but without opening it up he's not sure. it definitely wasn't lifters... this has been the first big block vehicle I've ever had. the 396 that was in it was OK on power but I cant wait to see what this motor does in this truck!! will __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-18-2017, 08:48 PM	#61
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... it had 3.73 gears... I went with 3.42. not much difference in gearing but I got them with the posi and all new bearings as cheap as I could just get the eaton posi. so I went ahead and did it all while we were in it. __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-19-2017, 03:14 PM	#62
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... update... as of lunch today the old(bad) motor is out and the new one is already in the truck... now Butch has the reassembly of the accessories, fans, etc to get back on. he hopes to have it running late today or tomorrow... __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-19-2017, 03:39 PM	#64
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... the air cleaner came off a chevelle is what the guy told me I bought it from... __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-20-2017, 07:54 PM	#65
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... update,,, new new motor in and running... NO weird noises or issue!!! my new fender badges also came in today. If he gets enough tomorrow he said he should get the posi and gears in too... we are SO close to having this upgrade done!! __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-20-2017, 10:23 PM	#66
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 12,947	Re: engine upgrade time... Ooh yeah Will. That's the finishing touch right there. Subtle Coolness. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

01-23-2017, 08:05 PM	#67
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... update... Great news... new Posi and gears are in! motor is running and running like a top. sounds great and runs real good. that other 502 that we first put in it definitely had a problem!!tomorrow Butch said he should be able to get the exhaust cutouts wired up and do some test drives in it! will __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed



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01-23-2017, 09:52 PM	#68
jessemthompson Registered User Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 955	Re: engine upgrade time... You'll be out marking roads with 2 black patches in no time. Beautiful truck

01-23-2017, 09:54 PM	#69
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... yeah I cant wait till that happens!! __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

01-23-2017, 11:40 PM	#70
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 12,947	Re: engine upgrade time... You've gotta do the vid too. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

01-24-2017, 08:59 PM	#71
wshattuck Registered User Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Dawsonville, GA Posts: 164	Re: engine upgrade time... the day has finally arrived! I got to drive the truck today! its sooo sweet, what a difference! the motor is so smooth and tons of torque... what a huge difference. I have attached a video of it I did today after driving it. of course the exhaust cutouts are open in the video.... I should be able to take it home tomorrow! http://vid1234.photobucket.com/album...psx2aflfij.mp4 __________________ 1969 C10, ZZ502, T400, A/C, WoodBed, Bucket Seats 1965 C10, 5.3LS, 4L60, Vintage Air, Woodbed

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01-24-2017, 11:17 PM	#75
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 12,947	Re: engine upgrade time... It looks good in there and sounds nasty. __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

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