It's almost done! pics of my 67 - plus a pic of my next project? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

moneyguru · 08-18-2004, 07:31 PM

The glass is all installed and the bed is on!

YEAH!!! It's ready for me to finish putting the rest together!
This has been an interesting experience to say the least, finishing a project somebody else started! I am constantly searching through boxes for parts, finding parts I didn't know I had and discovering parts I thought I had I don't.

Here are a couple pics of the truck!

Trying to decide between old Cragar SS wheels or finding the original hubcaps and going for that stock look.

Now that rear bumper is gonna go, I want the original style chrome ones!

And the next picture is a 1958 Chevy Impala that has grown into the floor of the garage. I'm thinking about acquiring it! ;-) It's all ready for paint but has no interior or trim. It does have the original engine and tranny though, should I get it?

But how hard will it bet to get it to this status?

thoughts?

**68 Stepside** · 08-18-2004, 07:49 PM

Oh man....a 58 Impala is on my short list of dream cars. If you could pick it up cheap, do it. Doing a resto on it won't be as "cheap" as a resto on a 67-72, but then again, a 58 Impala isn't exactly in the same category. I say go for it!!!!

The 67 looks sweet btw

NO LONGER DISTURBED KONCEPTZ · 08-18-2004, 07:52 PM

Damn I like the 67 and ur next project.

1BadSS · 08-18-2004, 08:20 PM

cragar SS' that fit 6 lug? where?! And wow the truck is looking good!

dubie · 08-18-2004, 08:25 PM

My neighbour has a 59 Bel Air 2 door hard top he is doing a frame off, on right now. Gonna be a sweet ride when it's done

moneyguru · 08-18-2004, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 Stepside

Oh man....a 58 Impala is on my short list of dream cars. If you could pick it up cheap, do it. Doing a resto on it won't be as "cheap" as a resto on a 67-72, but then again, a 58 Impala isn't exactly in the same category. I say go for it!!!!

The 67 looks sweet btw

Thanks....It's been a long road to get here!
Now the guys at Discount Tire looked at it and said they could get me brand new Cragar SS wheels for it....are you saying they aren't available in a 6 lug version?..:-(

Yeah the Impala's body is perfectly straight, mostly because the body man had redone all of it some 10 years ago, and the owner disappeared never paying for the work. Unfortunately there is no interior and all the trim seems to be missing. Are parts hard/expensive to get for these cars?

**68 Stepside** · 08-18-2004, 09:07 PM

I wouldn't say parts are hard to get for those cars, but definitely not dirt cheap. But then again, look at what you'd be restoring. A 58 Impala is by far one of the most beautiful cars Detroit ever turned out. I'd buy the car now, and worry about how much it costs to restore later....LOL You say the owner disappeared....what about getting a title for it? That's the main thing I'd worry about.....

3rdGenrationChevyman · 08-18-2004, 09:26 PM

looks like a Vee Dub Bug blew up on it...

thats a good looking truck, BTW...

moneyguru · 08-18-2004, 10:14 PM

Getting a title isn't a problem, the bodyshop owner that is owed money for his work can easily get a title for it.

That and the fact that it hasn't been titled in YEARS helps, well atleast in Michigan it helps.

silvertonguedevil · 08-18-2004, 10:22 PM

I agree with 68 Stepside, '58 Impalas are truly works of art. If you can get it for a reasonable amount, jump on it!! You can pretty much get anything for those cars. Finding parts shouldn't be a problem. Only thing is, is they are a one-year car. Where the '55-'56-'57 cars were pretty much the same and parts could interchange (ie, decklids, seats, etc) and the '59-'60 were the same way, the '58's are in a class of their own. The frame is more or less the same all the way up to '64. But if you have no interior, you might have a bit of a hard time finding the seats. They are going to be '58 Impala hardtop or convertible only. All of the trim pieces are available reproduction but that can get expensive. Still, if you can, grab it!

moneyguru · 08-18-2004, 10:26 PM

Well the only thing holding me back is finding some place to store it.

The shop owner will want it out of the shop, that I am sure of!
But I am working on finding some place to park it until I can start that project!

Anybody have any idea what this car is worth? Like I said the body is GREAT, it's all in primer and has been for awhile, but there is absolutely no interior.

silvertonguedevil · 08-18-2004, 10:29 PM

You say it has the original motor and trans? What are they? Any rust anywhere else on the car? Is any of the trim or bumpers or anything else there? Do you have any other pics? What is he asking for it?

moneyguru · 08-18-2004, 10:48 PM

Well as far as I know there are no bumpers, trim or interior there for the car.

I don't have any other pics, as you can see it's been buried for awhile.

It isn't publicly for sale, but I believe I can buy it. He has made comments about how it is just taking up space. And today he made it known he needed the space my truck was taking up as soon as I could get it out.

SOOOOOO

How do I determine what it's worth? Hard to say for me...right now I'm planning on lowballing him and offer to take it as is with no title. First I'm calling Michigan Secretary of state and make sure I can get a title for it.
I am sure I can, I have a friend that acquired a camaro this way. As long as it hasn't been titled a certain number of years they'll issue a new title.

Almost sounds like I should buy it and re-sell it!!

NAW!!! what's the fun in that?

silvertonguedevil · 08-18-2004, 10:53 PM

Take a look at this. I figured that this one was probably in the same ball park. If I could buy this one for the current price, I would buy it and then take the guy out to dinner afterwards

Maybe watch it and see what it ends up going for.
Sorry for the long link, I don't know how to do it any other way.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=39405

silvertonguedevil · 08-18-2004, 10:55 PM

Oh, by the way, good luck sleeping tonight

Everytime I stumble upon something like this, I end up picturing myself driving it and all of the cool stuff I would do to it and I stare at the ceiling all night, burning rubber and grabbing gears on a car that I probably wont end up getting anyway

moneyguru · 08-18-2004, 10:58 PM

Very interesting.... I'm actually hoping to get it for less than that!

Time to do some research on the title situation and be prepared to write a check! :-)

It also sounds like getting the interior will be hard...

moneyguru · 08-18-2004, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvertonguedevil

Oh, by the way, good luck sleeping tonight

Everytime I stumble upon something like this, I end up picturing myself driving it and all of the cool stuff I would do to it and I stare at the ceiling all night, burning rubber and grabbing gears on a car that I probably wont end up getting anyway

Oh thanks! LOL

Well I hope to report back with good news tomorrow...
Wish me luck!

silvertonguedevil · 08-18-2004, 11:18 PM

Good luck!!

LUV2XCLR8 · 08-19-2004, 04:53 AM

IF THAT IS YOUR SHOP I AM SOOOOOO JELOUS

Old Dave · 08-19-2004, 07:02 AM

Good luck with the Impala. Had a roomate in college whose brother in law bought a black one in 1970 for $350. It was a nice car and only had 52K on it. BTW nice truck.

**1970 CST Short Wide** · 08-19-2004, 09:49 AM

You still didnt say what motor it has. IF its a 348 or better yet 409 snap it up.

silvertonguedevil · 08-19-2004, 10:07 AM

If it's the original engine, it would have to be a 283 or a 348. Some (rare) had 6's in them. 409's weren't available until late '61. But yeah, a tri-power 348 would be a *****in' find!!

moneyguru · 08-19-2004, 10:11 AM

Sec. of State says getting a title isn't hard, process depends on the circumstances. Because it's in a body shop there might have to be a mechanic's lein involved.

I'll try to get more info today, maybe a picture of the engine bay would eb good.

moneyguru · 08-19-2004, 12:38 PM

Ok the bodyshop owner says he'll let me know within a week if I can get this car. While the car has been there several years with no contact from the owner, he still wants to try to contact him first.

Sadly that makes sense.....hopefully he can't get ahold of him! :-) Greedy son o ***** aint I!?

While I was there I snapped a few pics of the engine compartment, how can you tell if it's a 348 or a 409? I was told you can't tell easily by just looking at it.

And here is a pic of the "interior" of the car, it's gonna need alot! :-(

Damn I want this car...just haev to find someplace to store it until I get my next house! And no silvertonguedevil I don't want to store it at your place....I can read your mind! LMAO!!!!!

silvertonguedevil · 08-19-2004, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moneyguru

Damn I want this car...just haev to find someplace to store it until I get my next house! And no silvertonguedevil I don't want to store it at your place....I can read your mind! LMAO!!!!!

Whaaaaat?

I must admit, I'm jealous but I'm rootin' for ya just the same. The engine is a 348 for sure. 409's weren't available yet. From the pics, it looks like it's a power pack car too (4bbl). Keep us updated and let's all hope the guy is nowhere to be found!! Oh, and I'll be clearing a spot for her

08-18-2004, 07:31 PM	#1
moneyguru Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kalamazoo, mi Posts: 397	It's almost done! pics of my 67 - plus a pic of my next project? The glass is all installed and the bed is on! YEAH!!! It's ready for me to finish putting the rest together! This has been an interesting experience to say the least, finishing a project somebody else started! I am constantly searching through boxes for parts, finding parts I didn't know I had and discovering parts I thought I had I don't. Here are a couple pics of the truck! Trying to decide between old Cragar SS wheels or finding the original hubcaps and going for that stock look. Now that rear bumper is gonna go, I want the original style chrome ones! And the next picture is a 1958 Chevy Impala that has grown into the floor of the garage. I'm thinking about acquiring it! ;-) It's all ready for paint but has no interior or trim. It does have the original engine and tranny though, should I get it? But how hard will it bet to get it to this status? thoughts? __________________ "Do the things you fear to do and the death of fear is certain"

08-18-2004, 07:49 PM	#2
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	Oh man....a 58 Impala is on my short list of dream cars. If you could pick it up cheap, do it. Doing a resto on it won't be as "cheap" as a resto on a 67-72, but then again, a 58 Impala isn't exactly in the same category. I say go for it!!!! The 67 looks sweet btw __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

08-18-2004, 08:20 PM	#4
1BadSS NOT REALLY BANNED! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Shawnee, KS Posts: 1,072	cragar SS' that fit 6 lug? where?! And wow the truck is looking good! __________________ 1987 Mustang Coupe - 2.7 Stroker, 78mm turbo, Stainless header, 3" Exh, FMIC, 160lb/hr Injectors, MS3, twin walbro 255's, 34psi. Eating V8's daily. 04 Pontiac GTO 04 Ford Mustang GT 68 C20 LWB stripper truck 73 K5 Cheyenne 76 C20 Sierra Crew SRW 88 K20 Suburban I'm not hammering on metal just to hammer, i'm creating a piece of art.

08-18-2004, 08:25 PM	#5
dubie Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Flin Flon, Manitoba, Canada Posts: 8,855	My neighbour has a 59 Bel Air 2 door hard top he is doing a frame off, on right now. Gonna be a sweet ride when it's done __________________ My name's Tim and I'm a truckaholic My 56 Chevy shop truck build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=562795

08-18-2004, 09:07 PM	#7
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	I wouldn't say parts are hard to get for those cars, but definitely not dirt cheap. But then again, look at what you'd be restoring. A 58 Impala is by far one of the most beautiful cars Detroit ever turned out. I'd buy the car now, and worry about how much it costs to restore later....LOL You say the owner disappeared....what about getting a title for it? That's the main thing I'd worry about..... __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

08-18-2004, 07:52 PM	#3
NO LONGER DISTURBED KONCEPTZ Registered User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 257	Damn I like the 67 and ur next project.

08-18-2004, 09:26 PM	#8
3rdGenrationChevyman What me ugly? Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 104	looks like a Vee Dub Bug blew up on it... thats a good looking truck, BTW... __________________ `70 C-10 LWB Big & Ugly, like its owner... 307 SB - 600 Holley, Offenhauser 360 - Muncie 465, 3:73 Posi, 33" BF-G`s I like my trucks like my women... big & old with 33" feet.

08-18-2004, 10:14 PM	#9
moneyguru Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kalamazoo, mi Posts: 397	Getting a title isn't a problem, the bodyshop owner that is owed money for his work can easily get a title for it. That and the fact that it hasn't been titled in YEARS helps, well atleast in Michigan it helps. __________________ "Do the things you fear to do and the death of fear is certain"

08-18-2004, 10:22 PM	#10
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	I agree with 68 Stepside, '58 Impalas are truly works of art. If you can get it for a reasonable amount, jump on it!! You can pretty much get anything for those cars. Finding parts shouldn't be a problem. Only thing is, is they are a one-year car. Where the '55-'56-'57 cars were pretty much the same and parts could interchange (ie, decklids, seats, etc) and the '59-'60 were the same way, the '58's are in a class of their own. The frame is more or less the same all the way up to '64. But if you have no interior, you might have a bit of a hard time finding the seats. They are going to be '58 Impala hardtop or convertible only. All of the trim pieces are available reproduction but that can get expensive. Still, if you can, grab it! __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

08-18-2004, 10:26 PM	#11
moneyguru Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kalamazoo, mi Posts: 397	Well the only thing holding me back is finding some place to store it. The shop owner will want it out of the shop, that I am sure of! But I am working on finding some place to park it until I can start that project! Anybody have any idea what this car is worth? Like I said the body is GREAT, it's all in primer and has been for awhile, but there is absolutely no interior. __________________ "Do the things you fear to do and the death of fear is certain"

08-18-2004, 10:29 PM	#12
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	You say it has the original motor and trans? What are they? Any rust anywhere else on the car? Is any of the trim or bumpers or anything else there? Do you have any other pics? What is he asking for it? __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

08-18-2004, 10:48 PM	#13
moneyguru Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kalamazoo, mi Posts: 397	Well as far as I know there are no bumpers, trim or interior there for the car. I don't have any other pics, as you can see it's been buried for awhile. It isn't publicly for sale, but I believe I can buy it. He has made comments about how it is just taking up space. And today he made it known he needed the space my truck was taking up as soon as I could get it out. SOOOOOO How do I determine what it's worth? Hard to say for me...right now I'm planning on lowballing him and offer to take it as is with no title. First I'm calling Michigan Secretary of state and make sure I can get a title for it. I am sure I can, I have a friend that acquired a camaro this way. As long as it hasn't been titled a certain number of years they'll issue a new title. Almost sounds like I should buy it and re-sell it!! NAW!!! what's the fun in that? __________________ "Do the things you fear to do and the death of fear is certain"

08-18-2004, 10:53 PM	#14
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	Take a look at this. I figured that this one was probably in the same ball park. If I could buy this one for the current price, I would buy it and then take the guy out to dinner afterwards Maybe watch it and see what it ends up going for. Sorry for the long link, I don't know how to do it any other way. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=39405 __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

08-18-2004, 10:55 PM	#15
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	Oh, by the way, good luck sleeping tonight Everytime I stumble upon something like this, I end up picturing myself driving it and all of the cool stuff I would do to it and I stare at the ceiling all night, burning rubber and grabbing gears on a car that I probably wont end up getting anyway __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

08-18-2004, 10:58 PM	#16
moneyguru Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kalamazoo, mi Posts: 397	Very interesting.... I'm actually hoping to get it for less than that! Time to do some research on the title situation and be prepared to write a check! :-) It also sounds like getting the interior will be hard... __________________ "Do the things you fear to do and the death of fear is certain"



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08-18-2004, 11:18 PM	#18
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	Good luck!! __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

08-19-2004, 04:53 AM	#19
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08-19-2004, 07:02 AM	#20
Old Dave Is a bullfrog waterproof? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: OLATHE, KANSAS Posts: 1,130	Good luck with the Impala. Had a roomate in college whose brother in law bought a black one in 1970 for $350. It was a nice car and only had 52K on it. BTW nice truck. __________________ "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." Ben Franklin __________________ 1970 Chevy shortbed 2002 Harley Custom Chopper (Long sucker) 1998 K2500 5.7L 5-speed Longbed 1st two are My son's toys...they just live in my garage! 1997 GMC K1500 Suburban 1993 S-10 Blazer 4D (youngest son's daily driver) 2000 Dodge Ram 4WD Ext. Cab (5.9L) Wife is a late year 1951

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08-19-2004, 10:07 AM	#22
silvertonguedevil Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Seaside, Oregon Posts: 1,789	If it's the original engine, it would have to be a 283 or a 348. Some (rare) had 6's in them. 409's weren't available until late '61. But yeah, a tri-power 348 would be a ***in' find!! __________________ -Greg My Chevy trucks, past and present: 1962 C10 SB Fleetside 1964 C10 LB Fleetside BBW 1966 C10 SB Fleetside 1966 C10 SB Fleetside BBW 1968 C10 SB Fleetside 1971 C10 LB Fleetside 1971 C10 SB Fleetside 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne 1972 C10 SB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1972 C10 LB Fleetside Cheyenne Super 1974 C20 Cheyenne 1979 K5 Blazer Cheyenne 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Custom Deluxe 1982 K10 SB Fleetside Scottsdale** 1986 C10 SB Fleetside Silverado 2008 Silverado 1500 4x4

08-19-2004, 10:11 AM	#23
moneyguru Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kalamazoo, mi Posts: 397	Sec. of State says getting a title isn't hard, process depends on the circumstances. Because it's in a body shop there might have to be a mechanic's lein involved. I'll try to get more info today, maybe a picture of the engine bay would eb good. __________________ "Do the things you fear to do and the death of fear is certain"

08-19-2004, 12:38 PM	#24
moneyguru Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: kalamazoo, mi Posts: 397	1958 Impala pics Ok the bodyshop owner says he'll let me know within a week if I can get this car. While the car has been there several years with no contact from the owner, he still wants to try to contact him first. Sadly that makes sense.....hopefully he can't get ahold of him! :-) Greedy son o ***** aint I!? While I was there I snapped a few pics of the engine compartment, how can you tell if it's a 348 or a 409? I was told you can't tell easily by just looking at it. And here is a pic of the "interior" of the car, it's gonna need alot! :-( Damn I want this car...just haev to find someplace to store it until I get my next house! And no silvertonguedevil I don't want to store it at your place....I can read your mind! LMAO!!!!! __________________ "Do the things you fear to do and the death of fear is certain"

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