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bw4sale · 02-20-2009, 07:05 PM

I noticed the other day the the vin tags on my truck and my donor truck are different. One is a single plate. The other is two plates. They are both 68's as far as I know. I haven't actually run the vin #'s to make sure. What's up with that? Anyone know?

Longhorn Man · 02-20-2009, 07:16 PM

decode the second one... i'll bet it's a 70 or newer.

jbristo67 · 02-20-2009, 07:24 PM

I dont even have those should I be worried.

68_Bowtie · 02-20-2009, 07:35 PM

My 68 cab had 2. I've changed cabs to a 72. Now I gotta figure out exactly where to put my 68 plate, because of the relief vent.

Longhorn Man · 02-20-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jbristo67

I dont even have those should I be worried.

ONly if an officer of the law ever wants to look... or if you go to sell it... or if you take it to a proper inspection station.
Without the VIN, you can't prove it's ID, without being able to prove the truck's ID, it is then considered stollen, and then taken from you.

*chevy29267truck* · 02-20-2009, 10:42 PM

ok some trucks had one plate and some had two plates on them the only way is too cut around the plate or plates

toomanytoyz · 02-20-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy29267truck

ok some trucks had one plate and some had two plates on them the only way is too cut around the plate or plates

Just drill out the rivets, Can replace with new rivets...........

Rick

Longhorn Man · 02-20-2009, 11:11 PM

some trucks had 2... 67 - 69 trucks
some had one... 70 - 72

sick69 · 02-20-2009, 11:18 PM

Those "new rivets" are rosette rivits at 50.00 for a set of 4! When you can find them.

Frank

*chevy29267truck* · 02-20-2009, 11:32 PM

drill out the rivets if you want too go too jail for a long time

toomanytoyz · 02-20-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy29267truck

drill out the rivets if you want too go too jail for a long time

How is that any Different than Cutting around Them?

DMARCUM123 · 02-20-2009, 11:43 PM

well if you are smart and don't tell the whole world what you did who would know

Longhorn Man · 02-20-2009, 11:43 PM

any and all tampering is the same crime.
So cut around them and wled... or drill rivits, and spend $$ for new ones.... either way, there's legal implications.

sick69 · 02-20-2009, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DMARCUM123

well if you are smart and don't tell the whole world what you did who would know

If it EVER has to go through a vin inspection, for any reason, it would be found out. There are legal ways to change vin plates. Check with local dmv and or law enforcment for requirements.

Frank

Fastfun · 02-20-2009, 11:58 PM

I saved my rosette rivets

bw4sale · 02-21-2009, 12:05 AM

You guys make it sound like you can NEVER change a vin plate. I think through the proper channels you can legally. It probably has to be titled as a rebuild or something though. I'm in Tennessee and I think our laws are much more lax anyway. We don't even have vehicle inspections. I'm actually using neither of these cabs. I've got a nice one sitting in my dad's shop just waiting for me to get moving on this project. Both of these cabs are shot.

*chevy29267truck* · 02-21-2009, 12:14 AM

ok hope ever thing works out for you

jbristo67 · 02-21-2009, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

ONly if an officer of the law ever wants to look... or if you go to sell it... or if you take it to a proper inspection station.
Without the VIN, you can't prove it's ID, without being able to prove the truck's ID, it is then considered stollen, and then taken from you.

Ahhh the vins in the glove box its cool. I have a title and tags and i never have to get it inspected.

67_C-30 · 02-21-2009, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jbristo67

Ahhh the vins in the glove box its cool. I have a title and tags and i never have to get it inspected.

A VIN in the glovebox is 100% absolutely useless in the eyes of the law. The glovebox door is a removeable part and not considered a proper ID. Even if you don't have inspections, if you get into a wreck, Police officers (at least around here) write the VIN number off the VIN tag and not the paperwork. I would not even began building a truck unless I had it had a VIN tag. There have been true horror stories about people restoring vehicles only to find out they were stolen and have them seized and returned to the owner it was stolen from - no matter how much money you put into it. You could check to see if you're truck is correct by checking the VIN # on frame, but I'd still want the tag and would wonder why its gone. Just my nickel's worth of free advice...

68_Bowtie · 02-21-2009, 01:31 AM

Kind of a double edge sword. I have a title for the 72 cab that I put on my 68, but since the only change is the cab, I'm gonna put my 68 plate on it and call it good.

jbristo67 · 02-21-2009, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 67_C-30

A VIN in the glovebox is 100% absolutely useless in the eyes of the law. The glovebox door is a removeable part and not considered a proper ID. Even if you don't have inspections, if you get into a wreck, Police officers (at least around here) write the VIN number off the VIN tag and not the paperwork. I would not even began building a truck unless I had it had a VIN tag. There have been true horror stories about people restoring vehicles only to find out they were stolen and have them seized and returned to the owner it was stolen from - no matter how much money you put into it. You could check to see if you're truck is correct by checking the VIN # on frame, but I'd still want the tag and would wonder why its gone. Just my nickel's worth of free advice...

I have checked the frame to the title. It is good. I guess who ever the last body man was a short bus rider from the best I can tell. I would rather have the tag to but I have all of the paper work so I am good with what I have as long as what you say is true about the frame.

vectorit · 02-21-2009, 03:21 AM

Been there done the VIN shuffle on Camaro's, and have been hassled in a big way with the car being impounded. Sheriff's could care less about your story about restoration, and will only look at you as a sneaky crimminal that is wasting their time.
Since then, if there is ANY doubt about the authenticity of the VIN I walk away. It's just not worth the hassles.

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bw4sale · 02-21-2009, 08:48 AM

Wow. I didn't expect this thread to turn into this. I was just curious about the two different styles.

jbristo67 · 02-21-2009, 09:09 AM

No kidding they are scaring the sh!t out mf me lol

Longhorn Man · 02-21-2009, 05:17 PM

with no oficial von on your truck.... I would be scared.
Upon discovering it, you WILL lose your truck. You MIGHT get it back. A sticker on a glove box, and a partial stamping on the frame are not good enough. Just removing it is a huge fine in most, if not all, states.

02-20-2009, 07:05 PM	#1
bw4sale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 1,528	Door vin plates I noticed the other day the the vin tags on my truck and my donor truck are different. One is a single plate. The other is two plates. They are both 68's as far as I know. I haven't actually run the vin #'s to make sure. What's up with that? Anyone know? Attached Images __________________ BRENT -'68 Stepside Project -'98 Z71 Daily Driver -Enough extra parts to build another truck and a half

02-20-2009, 07:16 PM	#2
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Door vin plates decode the second one... i'll bet it's a 70 or newer.

02-20-2009, 07:24 PM	#3
jbristo67 resident oilfield trash Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lubbock TX Posts: 1,465	Re: Door vin plates I dont even have those should I be worried. __________________ 1967 SWB C10 396/400 factory air factory tach (sadly had to send to a new home) 1986 Honda 70 Fourtrax 1991 Chevrolet K5 blazer 2wd 1982 Mastercraft Pro Star 190 Stars and Stripes 2002 Chevrolet Tahoe 2011 Nissan Armada

02-20-2009, 07:35 PM	#4
68_Bowtie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Claremore OK Posts: 52	Re: Door vin plates My 68 cab had 2. I've changed cabs to a 72. Now I gotta figure out exactly where to put my 68 plate, because of the relief vent. __________________ 68' SWB 355 CID since 1987 89' S15 4WD 4.3 08' VTX 1300R 08' Chevrolet HHR (Wife's ride) "That man right there is the best sprint car driver in the whole ---damned country!" 1974- Indianapolis- AJ Foyt pointing out Jan Opperman in the garage.

02-20-2009, 10:42 PM	#6
chevy29267truck Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alva Florida Posts: 668	Re: Door vin plates ok some trucks had one plate and some had two plates on them the only way is too cut around the plate or plates

02-20-2009, 11:11 PM	#8
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Door vin plates some trucks had 2... 67 - 69 trucks some had one... 70 - 72 Last edited by Longhorn Man; 02-20-2009 at 11:12 PM.

02-20-2009, 11:18 PM	#9
sick69 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: colorado springs colorado Posts: 737	Re: Door vin plates Those "new rivets" are rosette rivits at 50.00 for a set of 4! When you can find them. Frank __________________ 70 chevy lwb c10 454/th400 and a 9" rearend suicide doors, marker light fuel fill, 4" cowl , mini tub

02-20-2009, 11:32 PM	#10
chevy29267truck Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alva Florida Posts: 668	Re: Door vin plates drill out the rivets if you want too go too jail for a long time

02-20-2009, 11:43 PM	#12
DMARCUM123 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WAYNE, WV. Posts: 675	Re: Door vin plates well if you are smart and don't tell the whole world what you did who would know

02-20-2009, 11:43 PM	#13
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Door vin plates any and all tampering is the same crime. So cut around them and wled... or drill rivits, and spend $$ for new ones.... either way, there's legal implications.

02-20-2009, 11:58 PM	#15
Fastfun Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Scottsdale, AZ Posts: 615	Re: Door vin plates I saved my rosette rivets Attached Images

02-21-2009, 12:05 AM	#16
bw4sale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 1,528	Re: Door vin plates You guys make it sound like you can NEVER change a vin plate. I think through the proper channels you can legally. It probably has to be titled as a rebuild or something though. I'm in Tennessee and I think our laws are much more lax anyway. We don't even have vehicle inspections. I'm actually using neither of these cabs. I've got a nice one sitting in my dad's shop just waiting for me to get moving on this project. Both of these cabs are shot. __________________ BRENT -'68 Stepside Project -'98 Z71 Daily Driver -Enough extra parts to build another truck and a half

02-21-2009, 12:14 AM	#17
chevy29267truck Account Suspended Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Alva Florida Posts: 668	Re: Door vin plates ok hope ever thing works out for you

02-21-2009, 01:31 AM	#20
68_Bowtie Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Claremore OK Posts: 52	Re: Door vin plates Kind of a double edge sword. I have a title for the 72 cab that I put on my 68, but since the only change is the cab, I'm gonna put my 68 plate on it and call it good. __________________ 68' SWB 355 CID since 1987 89' S15 4WD 4.3 08' VTX 1300R 08' Chevrolet HHR (Wife's ride) "That man right there is the best sprint car driver in the whole ---damned country!" 1974- Indianapolis- AJ Foyt pointing out Jan Opperman in the garage.

02-21-2009, 08:48 AM	#23
bw4sale Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 1,528	Re: Door vin plates Wow. I didn't expect this thread to turn into this. I was just curious about the two different styles. __________________ BRENT -'68 Stepside Project -'98 Z71 Daily Driver -Enough extra parts to build another truck and a half



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02-21-2009, 09:09 AM	#24
jbristo67 resident oilfield trash Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Lubbock TX Posts: 1,465	Re: Door vin plates No kidding they are scaring the sh!t out mf me lol __________________ 1967 SWB C10 396/400 factory air factory tach (sadly had to send to a new home) 1986 Honda 70 Fourtrax 1991 Chevrolet K5 blazer 2wd 1982 Mastercraft Pro Star 190 Stars and Stripes 2002 Chevrolet Tahoe 2011 Nissan Armada

02-21-2009, 05:17 PM	#25
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Door vin plates with no oficial von on your truck.... I would be scared. Upon discovering it, you WILL lose your truck. You MIGHT get it back. A sticker on a glove box, and a partial stamping on the frame are not good enough. Just removing it is a huge fine in most, if not all, states.

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