Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

phat69 · 03-04-2018, 10:14 PM

The alignment currently looks like this | \.
Do i just need 87 C/20 tie rods or the center link as well?

**PGSigns** · 03-05-2018, 07:40 AM

So why the 8 lug front? If the alignment looks like the symbols you used we need more pictures to help figure out what has been done to your truck.
Jimmy

phat69 · 03-05-2018, 03:13 PM

Thge 8 lug stuff was on the truck when I bought it.

**PGSigns** · 03-05-2018, 08:16 PM

Is it 8 lug all round? Pictures will help.
Jimmy

phat69 · 03-12-2018, 10:54 PM

The outer tie rod ends are too small for the spindles. Do I just need the outer ends from the donor truck?
The spindles in the pics were in the floor board as well.

phat69 · 03-16-2018, 08:01 PM

Ive been looking on rock auto and they list the 87 tie rod adjusting sleeve as 1/16-18 and the 70 C10 sleeve as 5/8-18. I am going to check the fit of the spindles that are in the pics after work tomorrow.

"Drum to Disc" conversions 60-70 thread states:
3) The 67-70 a-arms can also be used with any other (71-72 or 73-87) spindle, with a simple ball joint change.
* The upper and lower ball joints and outer tie rods must match the correct year of spindle you choose.

IF they aren't the same thread then how can I make this work?

**PGSigns** · 03-16-2018, 09:11 PM

The do make tie rod sleeves with different sizes on each end.
Jimmy

phat69 · 03-17-2018, 01:12 AM

Soon as I find out who "they" are i'll be set.

phat69 · 03-17-2018, 10:31 PM

The extra set of spindles are too small for the tie rod ends on the truck. they are original.

**PGSigns** · 03-18-2018, 07:37 PM

So what is the goal for this truck? Do you want 5 lug all the way around? Would you like to go to the original 6 lug? What is it in the back? I have fixed a bunch of trucks over the years that were suffering POM. Previous owner mayhem. The best fix for this is to decide what the end goal is and then a path forward to get there. A 70 was a drum brake truck so the Spindles are 71, 72 or 73 and up. The 73 and up come 2 ways with either 1" or 1 1/4" rotors. On the tie rod sleeves I think CPP made them. There is a mix of inner and outer tie rod ends you had to use to get the correct left and right hand treads.
Jimmy

03-04-2018, 10:14 PM	#1
phat69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 51	Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless The alignment currently looks like this \| \. Do i just need 87 C/20 tie rods or the center link as well? Attached Images

03-05-2018, 07:40 AM	#2
PGSigns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hayes Va Posts: 4,569	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless So why the 8 lug front? If the alignment looks like the symbols you used we need more pictures to help figure out what has been done to your truck. Jimmy __________________ 60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131 Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need? 1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver 1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home 1965 Suburban 2003 3500 Duramax 2005 Ultra Classic

03-05-2018, 03:13 PM	#3
phat69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 51	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless Thge 8 lug stuff was on the truck when I bought it.

03-05-2018, 08:16 PM	#4
PGSigns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hayes Va Posts: 4,569	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless Is it 8 lug all round? Pictures will help. Jimmy __________________ 60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131 Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need? 1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver 1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home 1965 Suburban 2003 3500 Duramax 2005 Ultra Classic

03-12-2018, 10:54 PM	#5
phat69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 51	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless The outer tie rod ends are too small for the spindles. Do I just need the outer ends from the donor truck? The spindles in the pics were in the floor board as well. Attached Images Last edited by phat69; 03-15-2018 at 12:02 AM.

03-16-2018, 08:01 PM	#6
phat69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 51	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless Ive been looking on rock auto and they list the 87 tie rod adjusting sleeve as 1/16-18 and the 70 C10 sleeve as 5/8-18. I am going to check the fit of the spindles that are in the pics after work tomorrow. "Drum to Disc" conversions 60-70 thread states: 3) The 67-70 a-arms can also be used with any other (71-72 or 73-87) spindle, with a simple ball joint change. * The upper and lower ball joints and outer tie rods must match the correct year of spindle you choose. IF they aren't the same thread then how can I make this work?

03-16-2018, 09:11 PM	#7
PGSigns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hayes Va Posts: 4,569	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless The do make tie rod sleeves with different sizes on each end. Jimmy __________________ 60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131 Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need? 1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver 1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home 1965 Suburban 2003 3500 Duramax 2005 Ultra Classic

03-17-2018, 01:12 AM	#8
phat69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 51	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless Soon as I find out who "they" are i'll be set.

03-17-2018, 10:31 PM	#9
phat69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Texas Posts: 51	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless The extra set of spindles are too small for the tie rod ends on the truck. they are original.

03-18-2018, 07:37 PM	#10
PGSigns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Hayes Va Posts: 4,569	Re: Just picked up a 70 C10 with 87 C20 Suburban spindless So what is the goal for this truck? Do you want 5 lug all the way around? Would you like to go to the original 6 lug? What is it in the back? I have fixed a bunch of trucks over the years that were suffering POM. Previous owner mayhem. The best fix for this is to decide what the end goal is and then a path forward to get there. A 70 was a drum brake truck so the Spindles are 71, 72 or 73 and up. The 73 and up come 2 ways with either 1" or 1 1/4" rotors. On the tie rod sleeves I think CPP made them. There is a mix of inner and outer tie rod ends you had to use to get the correct left and right hand treads. Jimmy __________________ 60 to 66 Chevy and GMC window decals http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=661131 Good friends, good food and a hotrod what else do you need? 1966 BBW long fleet Daily driver 1965 BBW short fleet Sold and going to a good home 1965 Suburban 2003 3500 Duramax 2005 Ultra Classic

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