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Old 01-21-2018, 10:50 PM   #1
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New replica tow hooks!

New 69-71 tow hooks on e-bay. Close copies of the originals, the curves aren't quite right. (Not mine)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1967-1972-C...FaZCNI&vxp=mtr
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Old 01-21-2018, 11:58 PM   #2
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

Still too high!!! Maybe when they start making them out of plastic I might be able to afford a set. Lol
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Old 01-22-2018, 12:04 AM   #3
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420 for hooks that are cast iron... the originals are forged if I’m not mistaken. Maybe for 100, certainly not 400.
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

Those ought to be $40. I hope they don't sell any. That is ridiculous. Whoever is selling them doesn't even know there are 60-68 tow hooks and 69-72.
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I hope his liability insurance is paid up in case someone actually tries to use them as intended.....

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Old 01-22-2018, 11:43 AM   #6
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All he need to do is add a disclaimer "for decorative purposes only and not intended to be used for towing, pulling or connecting to any implement to be used for towing or pulling"
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:49 AM   #7
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

Yep, I agree with the disclaimer. Cast iron...really?! At least they'll be easy to spot if some do get out - they'll be the broken ones!
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All he need to do is add a disclaimer "for decorative purposes only and not intended to be used for towing, pulling or connecting to any implement to be used for towing or pulling"

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I wouldn't trust them but good luck going after "EBAY SELLER MRJ67" when it all goes bad :-)
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Old 01-22-2018, 12:32 PM   #10
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

As I understand, GM tested their hooks by picking up the vehicle...... The cast iron ones may/may not do this but I wonder how they handle an impact.

If not cast steel, I wonder if maleable iron would have been a better choice.

Curt tow hooks are forged heat treated steel.

Price is too high for even consideration.
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Old 01-22-2018, 12:36 PM   #11
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

That's some insane pricing for those. I never understood the craze over tow hooks. Maybe it's like the same situation with original dog dish caps but even there the prices are crazy. If only all those custom wheel guys from more than a decade ago knew that they were throwing away pure gold when they tossed their stock caps!
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As I understand, GM tested their hooks by picking up the vehicle...... The cast iron ones may/may not do this but I wonder how they handle an impact.


Actually cast has as high or higher impact strength but forged is def better in all other areas
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

They better be stronger than the originals for $400
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

Let's see ... "new reproduction" tow hooks listed by an ebay seller whose main items for sale are COMIC BOOKS ! Are they being made in his basement while Mom is upstairs making meatloaf ?

REALLY ? I think from now on I'll be calling these the "FUNNY HOOKS" !
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Putting grade 8 bolts on cast iron hooks is like putting a $5000.00 saddle on a $10.00 horse.
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

They are just decoration, nobody really uses them anymore. Funny to see everyone get so worked up over it
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They are just decoration, nobody really uses them anymore. Funny to see everyone get so worked up over it

I used the ones on my '72 C30 a week or two ago. I had to pull the '93 Chevy PU backwards so I could get to it to work on it. I had to put a new fuel pump in it. Mine worked great.

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I used the ones on my '72 C30 a week or two ago. I had to pull the '93 Chevy PU backwards so I could get to it to work on it. I had to put a new fuel pump in it. Mine worked great.

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Yeah, now everyone is going to say they use them all the time

MOST are used for decoration...
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

Haha, I do not think we are after an argument. But let's say GM builds them to twice capacity as needed -- even tho they will not say publicly. 66% may not look out of line to some.

I have worked on a plow crew, line crew, and coal miner. I have never seen a hook break -- tow or line - probably someone has. I have seen compression sleeves and cables break. Hooks were all probably steel. The pull loads sometimes exceeded the equipment weight --like a dozer stuck in mud with a teco cable plow 40" in the ground ---look out and go hide.


Agree most are for decoration now. I would use both my oem hooks for a pull just because I do not want to damage the frame.

So $400 ---wow -- $200 may be more in line --dunno.
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Haha, I do not think we are after an argument. But let's say GM builds them to twice capacity as needed -- even tho they will not say publicly. 66% may not look out of line to some.

I have worked on a plow crew, line crew, and coal miner. I have never seen a hook break -- tow or line - probably someone has. I have seen compression sleeves and cables break. Hooks were all probably steel. The pull loads sometimes exceeded the equipment weight --like a dozer stuck in mud with a teco cable plow 40" in the ground ---look out and go hide.


Agree most are for decoration now. I would use both my oem hooks for a pull just because I do not want to damage the frame.

So $400 ---wow -- $200 may be more in line --dunno.

Unfortunately, I know a person who works big rig recovery with those huge dual boom recovery units who had a hook give out while they were pulling a heavy loaded rig out of a ditch near Baltimore. The tension on the cable caused the cable to whip nastily when the hook gave out and nearly severed his right arm off just below the shoulder. Investigation revealed the cable slid in the hook during the pull to a thinner point in the hook body that caused the failure.
I am glad you have not seen that kind of failure...It doesn't happen often, but..
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They are just decoration, nobody really uses them anymore. Funny to see everyone get so worked up over it
Not worked up in the least. I use my cheap aftermarket hooks nearly every time I go woodcutting, which is several times a year. I have put as much strain on them as the K20 can manage, and have yet to bend or break one. Hooks are not all just for show.
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This is good stuff ----- we get knowledge and experience from many. Mostly the K10/20/30 guys want the hooks as it was an option --- factory and dealer I think.
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Re: New replica tow hooks!

The prevailing issue for me is 'toughness'....with the strength being a strong second....and noting that steel is definitely a better choice than cast.

The toughness created by forging has to do with the shaping of the inherent grain structure within the steel. This 'shaping' is the forging or 'pounding' process put into a piece of steel through the impact of several 'dies' that bring the steel to its final shape.
Sort of like the way a tree branch develops its natural strength, despite its length, by forming itself over time....and that is why, by simple example... you can hang a swing on a tree branch 8-10 ft out...and you could never do that on a cantilevered 4x4 which would snap off at the mount point vs. 'flexing' like the tree branch.

here is quick informative youtube video of the way forging works on a piece of steel...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSCjRaV9Og

This 'toughness' allows the steel to withstand 'impact' as well as load....unlike casting....and you could easily see 'impact' on a towing operation if you had slack in a tow chain that suddenly pulled tight and 'slammed' (or impacted) the towhook.
That cast one would instantly break off...with all sorts of damage occurring to possible both people and equipment.

As a result of these different processes, you can take a cast item and hit it with a hammer and it will literally explode....a piece of steel, particularly forged steel...will 'hang in there'. Just like if you hit a cast cylinder head or engine block with a 5lb sledge it will snap in half....but if that was a 3" or 4" square 'steel' bar....you would hit it all day and do nothing but wear your sledge hammer (and your arms lol) out.

Anything relating to lifting, towing, etc needs to have this inherent extra element in it....which a casting never has.

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Are there any good quality aftermarket hooks available? Could've used some last weekend.
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Are there any good quality aftermarket hooks available? Could've used some last weekend.
Post #49 shows the same type hooks I have used for decades. Cheap and very tough, I have abused them a lot and they just take it, no damage.
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