GMC and Chevrolet VIN and Model Number Decoders with pics.

[bruceman1968]

Originally Posted by kwmech

So one of my trucks is also a GMC 1 ton with the 157'' wheelbase (used to be a class B MH) Pretty sure the wheelbase code is 64, that is what is says on the glove box anyways as the model-- CE364OV -- vin: CE3OV ZA 2....

kwmech, you got it right.
Model number
CE364OV
C = 2wd
E = V-8
3 = 1 Ton
64 = 157" Wheelbase
OV = Cab & Chassis

VIN
CE3OVZA2....
C = 2wd
E = V-8
3 = 1 Ton
OV = Cab & Chassis
Z = Fremont assembly
A = 1969
2.... = Unique Serial number, Starts at 10001

[bruceman1968]

Originally Posted by Okiefromwatonga

This is by far the easiest vin decoder to use and best looking one i have ran into in my many vin decoder searches. I have a small problem though. The truck i. Trying to decode is a GMC 5500 (Same as a chevy C50) and its vin is different than what are pictured. Its vin is CE50V-A102079

Originally Posted by bruceman1968

My GMC reference materials are packed up right now. (I'm in the middle of a move). But let me see if I can get this off the top of my head.

CE50V-A102079

C = 2wd
E = V-8
5 = 2 Ton
0V = Cab & Chassis
- = Space reserved for special designation
A = Atlanta assembly plant
1 = 1971
02097 = Unique serial number

Thanks for the complement on the decoders.

Okie, SS Tim called me yesterday with some concerns about the decode I did on your truck. This morning I went through your previous posts and found the pictures of your SPID. From the pics of your SPID, I know I made a mistake on the decode. Often on SPIDs, the unique serial number was printed at a different time from the first half of the VIN and it shows with different Font and alignment. This is clearly the case on your SPID.

Your unique serial number is clearly 102079 which would make the A the model year. 1969 in this case. Sorry for any confusion my incorrect decode might of caused in relation to the year of your truck. It is a 1969.

[Okiefromwatonga]

No worries, im not too worried about it and 99.9% of any parts are the same. Luckily I havent started anything so no harm no foul

[sherm6413]

my vin doesn't really match up ... {I have CE149S894367------supposed to be original title to factory swb chev 1969 fleetside ......

[bruceman1968]

Originally Posted by sherm6413

my vin doesn't really match up ... {I have CE149S894367------supposed to be original title to factory swb chev 1969 fleetside ......

sherm, yours is correct for a 1969 Chevy 1/2 Ton.
C = 2wd
E = V-8
1 = 1/2 Ton
4 = pickup
9 = 1969
S = St. Louis assembly plant
894367 = Unique serial number, starts at 800001. (All Chevy light duty trucks started with 800001 in 1969)
This decoder will work for yours. I left off the starting number for 1969 (800001) and 1971 (600001) on this decoder. All other years 67, 68, 70, and 72 started with 100001. (Chevrolet light duty only)

[BILT4ME]

Hi Bruceman1968!

This is a GREAT decoder!

We just picked up a 1970 GMC K20 for my son's project and I see in the VIN decoder that apparently this truck was a Cab/Chassis. I was wondering if you could help with the "F" designation so I can determine what it was originally. the frame number and the pillar tag match. The truck has been repainted, but it has a Chevrolet tailgate on a GMC, and now that I see this, there is a distinct possibility that it was used as something else before we got it. We do know that it was used to tow heavy construction equipment for most of its life.

KE203-FZ64735
MODEL KE25903

3/4T
4X4
350 V8
4 SPEED
HD F/R SPRINGS
RADIO
AMMETER, OIL GAUGE
A/C
PS
(NO PB)
7.50-16.5 WHEELS (SPLIT RIMS)
HD BATTERY
MED BLUE
L/R OUTSIDE MIRRORS
TINTED GLASS
BLUE VINYL TRIM
LOCKING FRONT HUBS

I'm mostly curious about the
"F" designation....Flatbed?

Thanks!

[bruceman1968]

Happy to help. Here is the correct VIN decoder for your 1970 GMC. The F is for the Flint assembly plant.

KE203-FZ64735
K = 4wd
E = V-8
2= 3/4Ton
03 = Cab & Chassis
- = Space reserved for special Designation
F = Flint Assembly plant
Z = 1970
64735 = unique serial number, starts at 50001 in 1970






And here is the correct model number decoder for your truck. As you can see, the 03 designates it as a cab and chassis.

KE25903
K = 4wd
E = V-8
2 = 3/4Ton
59 = 127' Wheelbase
03 = Cab & Chassis

[BILT4ME]

Thanks bruceman1968!

I was hung up on the FZ thinking the Z was for Fremont. I was mentally bypassing the dash, but now I see the Z is for 1970.

Is the "Fenderside" a pickup bed? And a Cab and Chassis something that maybe would have been given a flatbed somewhere later after delivery? Because right now, it has a pickup bed on it that APPEARS to have the same under color of paint as the rest of the truck, but since it has a Chevy tailgate..........who knows.

It does have the 127" wheelbase.

There is evidence of a plow having been attached to the front, so it very well could have been a plow truck with a sand bed on it or a water/oil tank.

Thanks again!

[bruceman1968]

Fenderside is GMC's name for a stepside bed. Your truck was originally built as a cab & chassis, with no bed on it. It could have had a flat bed added to it at the dealership or anytime after that.

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[aanthonys210]

Hello all seems to me that my vin numbers can't be matched can someone please HELP!!!!


CE134-S110925
Got it
Thank you

C- 2wheel drive conv cab
E- V-8 gas
1- 1/2 ton
34- wide side
S- St Louis
1- 1971
10925- Starts at 10001 (1971)

[SS Tim]

Originally Posted by aanthonys210

Hello all seems to me that my vin numbers can't be matched can someone please HELP!!!!
CE134-S110925

Its a 71 GMC VIN number!

C Conventional 4x2
E V8 gas engine
1 1/2 ton
34 wideside bed
-
S St.Louis assembly plant
1 1971 model year
10925 serial/sequence number, started at 10001

[iriereggaeman]

Thanks bruceman1968! Very cool indeed. I was deciphering my Model number, using http://www.caaarguide.com/sub1/id442.html which had my burban listed as a 3-door wagon with liftgate. The burban has the barn doors (aka cargo doors?), so I was wondering someone had done a swap before getting to me. Your 67-72 K10 decoder ring produced this:

VIN = CKE162F145864

C = Chevy
K = 4WD
E = V-8
1 = 1/2 ton
6 = Suburban
2 = 1972
F = Built in Flint Michigan
145864 serial number

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Model KE10916

K = 4WD
E = V-8
1 = 1/2 ton
09 = 127" Longbed (Wheelbase Length)
16 = Suburban/Cargo doors
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
which seems much more accurate! Thanks again!!

[bruceman1968]

iriereggaeman, Glad the decoders helped you out. You have a very nicely equipped suburban there. Welcome to the forum.

[Kevin McPherson]

I am having trouble decoding my 1967 1/2 ton 4x4 suburban. Can you help? It doesn't seem to follow any of the rules. I only have a 12 digit VIN code, and the DMV tells me it should have 14.

[Kevin McPherson]

This is the original options list

[SS Tim]

Originally Posted by Kevin McPherson

I am having trouble decoding my 1967 1/2 ton 4x4 suburban. Can you help? It doesn't seem to follow any of the rules. I only have a 12 digit VIN code, and the DMV tells me it should have 14.

Kevin, While a 67 GMC could have a 14 digit VIN, the 12 digit VIN on your 67 Chevrolet Suburban is correct and clearly so !

As was indicated it breaks down as,
K Conventional Cab 4x4
E V-8 engine (base 283 in your case)
1 10 Series 1/2 ton
6 Suburban
7 1967 model year
Z Fremont California assembly plant
156477 Unit serial number


Additional SPID coded information

Paint code 451 is Medium Blue Poly (metallic) code 506, applied as a two-tone with a code 526 Ivory roof.

Model number KE10916 confirms it to be a 4x4 V-8 1/2 ton Suburban with tailgate.

[Already Gone]

Originally Posted by SS Tim

Kevin, While a 67 GMC could have a 14 digit VIN, the 12 digit VIN on your 67 Chevrolet Suburban is correct and clearly so !

As was indicated it breaks down as,
K Conventional Cab 4x4
E V-8 engine (base 283 in your case)
1 10 Series 1/2 ton
6 Suburban
7 1967 model year
Z Fremont California assembly plant
156477 Unit serial number


Additional SPID coded information

Paint code 451 is Medium Blue Poly (metallic) code 506, applied as a two-tone with a code 526 Ivory roof.

Model number KE10916 confirms it to be a 4x4 V-8 1/2 ton Suburban with tailgate.

Curious as to what would the other 2 digits denote if there was a 14 digit serial number on a 1967 GMC?

[SS Tim]

Originally Posted by Already Gone

Curious as to what would the other 2 digits denote if there was a 14 digit serial number on a 1967 GMC?

Its not that simple,
In a nutshell the big differences are an added GVW range as a suffix, two digit wheelbase, two digit model and a four digit serial.

To see the differences clearly just go to the begining of this thread and compare the 67 GMC to the 12 digit 67-71 Chevrolets. In 72 Chevrolets used a 13 digit VIN with an added maunfacturer digit.

[dmjlambert]

It follows the rules in the picture bruceman1968 posted at 08-02-2016, 10:16 PM above, post #108

According to your VIN and the decoder, you have a 4wd 8-cylinder 1/2-ton Suburban 1967 Fremont-built with 6 digit serial number.

That is 12 characters. DMV is mistaken (first time that has happened, probably :-).

Thanks for finding this thread and bringing it back to the top. It is interesting and informative and I'm going to bookmark it.

[Kevin McPherson]

Thank you, sometimes I miss the big things because I am looking for the fine print!!

[Joerg]

Can anybody help me to decode this vin?

1C154L113981

its on a 60 Apache, here in Germany.
What I found:

1 = 1961
C = 2WD
15 = 1/2 ton
4 = Pickup
L = (found Los Angeles but not for this year)#
113981 = ser. number 3981, but that be?
Could this be real?

thank you for your help.
Joerg.

[bruceman1968]

Originally Posted by Joerg

Can anybody help me to decode this vin?

1C154L113981

its on a 60 Apache, here in Germany.
What I found:

1 = 1961
C = 2WD
15 = 1/2 ton 127'wb
4 = Pickup
L = (found Los Angeles but not for this year)#
113981 = ser. number 3981, but that be? Serial numbers started at 100001 with the first truck. So your truck is number 13981 off the line.
Could this be real?

thank you for your help.
Joerg.

Joerg, I also have L=Los Angles in 1959. But I can't find L in 1960 or 61. sorry, I'll keep looking.

[Joerg]

Thank you for the information.
I have a title which shows built in 1960 but the vin says 1961.
Can you explain how this works?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/RN7dwK3aTkBuMW2K2

regards
Joerg.

[bruceman1968]

Jogre, that's pretty common. 1961s were built from August 1960 to July 1961. So a early 61 build is often titled as a 1960. Or if a late build sat on the lot till 1962, and then sold it could get titled as a 1962.