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Old 08-25-2012, 10:57 AM   #1051
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Re: SoCal checkin' in

Yeah the starter was disengaging dano. I'm about to go pull another tranny to put into my truck, wish me luck guys. I will hopefully have my truck back together today.
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Old 08-25-2012, 12:39 PM   #1052
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My victim , my bros 56 olds . Been sitting a while hope the tranny is good. Has chevy drivetrain
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Old 08-25-2012, 05:55 PM   #1053
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My victim , my bros 56 olds . Been sitting a while hope the tranny is good. Has chevy drivetrain
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LOL!! Im sure he wont mind you borrowing his trans. We wont tell.
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Old 08-25-2012, 07:30 PM   #1054
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ohhh man, that thing is BAD ASS!
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Old 08-25-2012, 08:47 PM   #1055
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Block number info any help 397 3010 or 397 8010. Please any hell guys these arw the nunbers behind the driver head
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:23 PM   #1056
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Try this link.

http://www.nastyz28.com/sbchevy/sblock.php

I will still research the numbers you gave me.
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Old 08-25-2012, 11:26 PM   #1057
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Block number info any help 397 3010 or 397 8010. Please any hell guys these arw the nunbers behind the driver head
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This is about as close as I found.

3970010 69-79 302/350 car & Truck 2 & 4-Bolt Most common
3970014 68-79 350 car & Truck 2 & 4-Bolt
3970020 69-73 307 car & Truck 2-bolt
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Old 08-26-2012, 12:00 AM   #1058
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Thanks vdog looks like the first is prob right.I always say 75 350 so I guess I was right with the info I was given. I got the tranny from the olds in ,driveshaft mounted, just have a few things to finish off and keep my fingers crossed that its a good tranny. I'll finish it up in the morning. I'm pretty beat!
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:27 AM   #1059
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How many teeth are on the starter's Bendix ? .

Once in a while you'll get an odd tooth count and this causes jamming & binding .

Dano , you said oil droplets all over the back of the cab , that's not likely rings as rings woud spew oil & smoke out the exhaust pipe , not from under the cab....

I'm just thinking out loud here , maybe you blew a rear main seal or oil filter plate seal ? .
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:13 AM   #1060
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...Dano , you said oil droplets all over the back of the cab , that's not likely rings as rings woud spew oil & smoke out the exhaust pipe , not from under the cab....

I'm just thinking out loud here , maybe you blew a rear main seal or oil filter plate seal ? .
Hey Nate,
I did have a gigantic gray/blue cloud exhaust as I was comin' down Kellogg Hill (I-10).
I went out this morning and there's no leaking oil from the rear of the engine or the oil filter seal.
Since my "cheap b@st@rd homemade brand" exhaust system ends at the back of the cab, that's the reason everything was cab and bed.
The droplets were vaporlike drops, so I'm pretty sure I was blowin' oil out the exhaust pipes.
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:19 AM   #1061
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O.K. , now I gotcha .

You seem in a big hurry to yank this engine , it's always easier and faster to yank heads & drop the pan , repair as necessary , this is how GM esigned it , to be simple , cheap and fast .
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O.K. , now I gotcha .

You seem in a big hurry to yank this engine , it's always easier and faster to yank heads & drop the pan , repair as necessary , this is how GM esigned it , to be simple , cheap and fast .

Dano has been having trouble with this engine since the first Legends meet when he was not sure if it was going to start or not. He is probably fed up with it. I know that feeling well.
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Old 08-26-2012, 01:09 PM   #1063
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How many teeth should the bendix have?
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Old 08-26-2012, 04:58 PM   #1064
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Dano has been having trouble with this engine since the first Legends meet when he was not sure if it was going to start or not. He is probably fed up with it. I know that feeling well.
This engine is cursed, since I got the truck it's been nothin' but heartbreak.
I usually pull the PO motor when I buy a truck, but cash got tight.
I'd like to remove the curse, start fresh, and have confidence in my power plant.
I'm glad I have an engine waiting on deck...
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:27 PM   #1065
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So after thrashing for 3 days straight alone on the 64 , pulling 2 trannys ,putting a tranny into my truck,3 different starters. I quit! I done for today super frustrated and pissed off. Dont wanna mess up my new flywheel. But after shimminv everg which way and using 3 different starterz witb the same results. I have grinding when i turn the key. I pulled the solenoid on 2 of the starters and shimmed to get proper engagement only to still have the same result. I dont know what im gonna do , not sure how much longer i can borrow the car im using. Ok rant over
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Old 08-26-2012, 06:28 PM   #1066
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Didnt even get the chance to see if the tranny i swapped in is good. Hahaha
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Old 08-27-2012, 03:53 PM   #1068
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So after thrashing for 3 days straight alone on the 64 , pulling 2 trannys ,putting a tranny into my truck,3 different starters. I quit! I done for today super frustrated and pissed off. Dont wanna mess up my new flywheel. But after shimminv everg which way and using 3 different starterz witb the same results. I have grinding when i turn the key. I pulled the solenoid on 2 of the starters and shimmed to get proper engagement only to still have the same result. I dont know what im gonna do , not sure how much longer i can borrow the car im using. Ok rant over
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Are the starters you are trying have offset holes or straight across mounting holes?
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:35 PM   #1069
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Staggered and i have a 168 tooth flywheel
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Old 08-27-2012, 04:50 PM   #1070
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I had an old v-8 that when I took a starter that had straight across mounting holes. Everytime I would go to the auto parts store they would tell me that the starter for a v8 with a th350 needed to have the offset mounting holes. I would tell them, that is not what is on there now. One parts clerk did not believe me and told me to bring my old starter in. When I did, he confirmed it was not for a manual tranny set-up and as a matter of fact he could not even find the starter in his picture parts book. He sent me to an old skool starter rebuild place and when the old-timer there saw the starter he said, that's an old-one! (whatever that meant.) He went in the back and came out with a rebuilt starter for me, took my old one as the core. I will take a look in my stash and see if I can find that starter and maybe get a part number or pic of it for you. Maybe your v8 needs one of these types of starter.
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Old 08-27-2012, 07:48 PM   #1071
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Didnt even get the chance to see if the tranny i swapped in is good. Hahaha
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How did the engine dowel pins look?

I have a starter that came off my 283, that could use a rebuild if you want to try it. Free price.
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Old 08-27-2012, 08:38 PM   #1072
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Its a 9 tooth starter. I have a 168 tooth flywheel. Dowels looked normal. I may take you up on that offrr vdog.
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Its a 9 tooth starter. I have a 168 tooth flywheel. Dowels looked normal. I may take you up on that offrr vdog.
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:17 PM   #1074
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Hey vdog could you check how many teeth your starter has. I know mine are 9 tooth. Im wondering if i need to use an 11 tooth starter. Kinda doubt thats the problem but im willing to try something i havent tried
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"hopped up",
I found the starter (on my dad's old car). Would you like to try it to see if it will work on your engine? I do need it back, but you can at least see if this is the type of starter you need.
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