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Old 04-20-2019, 09:08 AM   #1
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90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Well I'm going to punish myself and do the engine swap in the Vegas summer.. might have to invest in some kind of ac or swamp cooler.

1997 dodge 3500 was bought and engine pulled along with the 47re that is currently being rebuilt and converted to 4x4. Not sure how to mount transfer case

Screamin crossmember and engine mounts

40 gal tank.. need to figure out sending unit. Going with fass fuel pump.

All new suspension and components from offroad design.

She along with my 54 are my daily drivers..
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Old 04-20-2019, 09:50 AM   #2
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Sorry let me revisit how to post pics..its been a while..
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Old 04-20-2019, 01:50 PM   #3
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Sounds like a good project! Looking forward to following your build.
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Old 04-25-2019, 02:18 PM   #4
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/pro...rt-7/#photo-19

Do you guys think this is the best route to take?

Plumbing to Fass 125gpm
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Old 04-27-2019, 12:38 PM   #5
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Pulled her out to start cleaning and put some fresh gaskets on.. not sure which ones... also bought a 24v a while back but got super lucky finding the 12v.. everyone is scared of the 53 block.. not me I will roll it till she breaks kinda guy.
If anyone has any input please help this is my first diesel.

Pic of the table I'm trying to finish up before the swap takes all my time. Had the ibeams water cut and added some round rivets.
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Old 04-29-2019, 12:55 PM   #6
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

I've heard that there is a noticeably better result (prolonged not leaking) if you use the genuine Cummins gaskets. Just what i've heard. Cool table, I like it.

I'm just starting to get around to the fuel stuff a few months into my build now. Thanks for the info on that. I got the heavy hitters of engine mounts, trans mounts, front brace, large rad mount, high mount AC, high alternator mount, auto to manual pedal and M/C, steering and hydroboost out of the way first. Are you converting to high mount AC?
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Old 04-29-2019, 05:38 PM   #7
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Thanks for the reply, I was wondering if this forum has turned into an Instagram website where people r just here for the photos..haha. I really like your build. I am going with a high a/c mount being that i will not drive this car without an a/c. I don't think my 1 year old will like a hot car in the summer how I grew up with Virginia Slims choking us out in the back seat... What high mount do you suggest? Take care.

Also do you know anything about these 2nd gens with EGR? This is my third build and by far the most difficult when it comes to finding info...
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Old 04-30-2019, 08:51 AM   #8
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

fass pump is a waste of time. the stock pump on the motor is capable of 700hp easily. more trouble than they are worth. I'm running a maxed and balanced farrel diesel inj pump, with the stock lift pump, and 3/8 line out of the tank. has enough torque to kill the nv4500 twice so far. upgrading to nv5600 soon. I don't race mine, just tow alot.
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Old 04-30-2019, 10:04 PM   #9
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

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Thanks for the reply, I was wondering if this forum has turned into an Instagram website where people r just here for the photos..haha. I really like your build. I am going with a high a/c mount being that i will not drive this car without an a/c. I don't think my 1 year old will like a hot car in the summer how I grew up with Virginia Slims choking us out in the back seat... What high mount do you suggest? Take care.

Also do you know anything about these 2nd gens with EGR? This is my third build and by far the most difficult when it comes to finding info...
Not like instagram but traffic is lower here than it used to be. I still prefer sites like this for build threads. It seems like using those social sites for vehicles is just a random stream of attention deficit disorder drivel.

I just made my own high mount setup, but I like to fabricate. Its easier just to use the Freightliner setup.

Don't know about 2nd gens with EGR. Maybe Dieselwrencher (Ryan) does?
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^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either
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Old 05-10-2019, 05:50 PM   #10
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Almost about time. I have to return some gaskets because they r not Cummins.. thanks for the heads up.. I did go with Fass just because I've learned by building a daily driver that if u want it get it so u dont sell it after ur done because some stuffs not right or needs to be done.. I'm trying not to cut any corners so I dont end up at Chevy buying a new 2500 for 60k.
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Old 05-10-2019, 09:16 PM   #11
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Ummmm is this factory?
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Old 05-12-2019, 10:15 PM   #12
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

someone trying to mimic toyotas truck torque arm. not necessary on our trucks.
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Old 05-13-2019, 01:45 PM   #13
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Yep. not factory.
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Old 06-03-2019, 03:00 PM   #14
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Dam cali truck.... look at the difference going to try to use the 24v intake temporarily until I do the dual banks set up and dont have to make a block plate for the stock 12v air intake..
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Old 06-03-2019, 08:13 PM   #15
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Day 1. Pulled the truck bed kinda got in a jam a needed the neighbor to give me a hand.. I would like to Rhino line the under part of the bed but not really sure if it's worth it.. what do u guys think? My goal is 6 months until I get back on the road..
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

won't hurt anything to do it. just depends on if you want to do the work or not. probably be good sound deadening on the drum of a bed!
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Old 06-06-2019, 04:38 PM   #17
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I dont like the odds of getting this dent out but I sure will hack at it for a while.. hopefully i can get the engine pulled this weekend.. after pulling the bed I might fan up a gooseneck
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

I like those rims. As far as the rhino lining, would just be sound deadening since you're in an an area where rust isn't an issue. I am jealous. My K30 isn't allowed on the roads during salt season.
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Old 06-12-2019, 09:23 PM   #19
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Re: 90 crew 1 ton Cummins 47re swap

Looks like a neat build, I’m in for it.

What are the springs you got there?
I finally broke down and ordered a set from alcan today...4 week build time.
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Ok have the engine and trans disconnected but didn't feel like pulling it today.. storage is a constant puzzle in my garage thankfully I grew up playing tetris..Haha it turns out most of my wires were bare..I'm surprised it did not catch fire. My front shock bolt was out..dont know how long ago that happened. I wish someone would buy this engine I'm not having any luck selling it here in vegas.. I think craigslist has finally gone cold.. speaking of cold I broke down and ordered a swamp cooler. The garage was 100 the other day a bolt broke when trying to remove (we all have been there) crushed my thumb.. it's one thing to crush a knuckle and another to have sweat burning ur eyes while tending to injuries..

Need to find a np205 dodge and good rubber body mounts let me know if ya have any advice...
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Looks like a neat build, I’m in for it.

What are the springs you got there?
I finally broke down and ordered a set from alcan today...4 week build time.
They are also alcan.. definitely excited to hit a pot hole and not jar my back, hit my head on the roof, and have my wife glare at me for having an old truck.
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Got her pulled..trans guy said he should be done this week. Has anyone used the Fire Punk stand alone harness? Was thinking of going that route. Going to throw the lift on and start working on the frame and fabin up some step bars that also will keep the family safe for side impact. The area where the saddle bags were in the pick above is what I would like to beef up. The 40 gal tank also is going to take some extra time. Not sure if anyone has done a 40 gal and have room for a gooseneck....
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Might have to cut the firewall with the screamin crossmember. The trans adapter is pretty big. Might just start cutting and then patch later...
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ditch the FASS, keep your 12V mechanical...as it should be, those lift pumps rarely fail if it is the original. replacement with fail do to poor redesign.

if you want aftermarket, look at the GDP FUEL BOSS>
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