Old School 4x4 Wheels

[special-K]

Yeah, there are some wheels available that are nice. I wish someone would make old style custom wheels. Sometimes you see too much of something and it goes away. Then after a long enough time, you'll see it again and in a whole new way. I mean, what's so terrible about a dang white spoke wheel anyway? Now don't everybody go out and buy them all at once or they'll get ugly just as quick, again

I sold that truck I showed 5-6 years ago to a friend. First thing he did was take off the wagon wheels and put on alloy 16.5 x 8.25s. They were older (90s), so didn't look too bad. It's been all the way down and back up to close, if not ready, for panel painting and assembly. This shop has had it since about 6 months after he got it. It will have 16 x 8 steelies with hubcaps when it's done. It will be original colors.
Here's another picture since you said you liked it and I miss looking at it:


I had 16.5 steelies in 9.75 and 8.25, 8.25 turbines, and 9.75 slots. I had 37/12.50 Swampers on the narrower steelies for that K/20, kept them for the '72 K3500, then decided to go smaller and sold those and the lift. I had a all four spring 6" lift, the wheels were 16 x 10s, and the tires were 315/75-16 Pro Comp Xterrains

[68panelman]

Not to get away from the wheel topic, but your K20 is my all-time favorite, It sucks you don't still own it, but I do appreciate the pics and info on it.

[Rednwhitec20]

Thanks! I'm really thinking on the white spoke wagons. I have a 6" all spring lift installed. I'd go with 16x10 wagons with 35's. Hard to go wrong with white wagons for the looks/price.

[1972RedNeck]

Originally Posted by Rednwhitec20

Sadly thats what this generation has come to.

Easy there hoss. Every generation has its bad apples - some more than others, but we all ain't bad.

[1968vetL-71]

16x10 WV's with newer caps

[Rednwhitec20]

Originally Posted by special-K

Yeah, there are some wheels available that are nice. I wish someone would make old style custom wheels. Sometimes you see too much of something and it goes away. Then after a long enough time, you'll see it again and in a whole new way. I mean, what's so terrible about a dang white spoke wheel anyway? Now don't everybody go out and buy them all at once or they'll get ugly just as quick, again

I sold that truck I showed 5-6 years ago to a friend. First thing he did was take off the wagon wheels and put on alloy 16.5 x 8.25s. They were older (90s), so didn't look too bad. It's been all the way down and back up to close, if not ready, for panel painting and assembly. This shop has had it since about 6 months after he got it. It will have 16 x 8 steelies with hubcaps when it's done. It will be original colors.
Here's another picture since you said you liked it and I miss looking at it:
Attachment 1513521

I had 16.5 steelies in 9.75 and 8.25, 8.25 turbines, and 9.75 slots. I had 37/12.50 Swampers on the narrower steelies for that K/20, kept them for the '72 K3500, then decided to go smaller and sold those and the lift. I had a all four spring 6" lift, the wheels were 16 x 10s, and the tires were 315/75-16 Pro Comp Xterrains

Do you think I could use 16x10's with 36x12.50 with my 6" lift and not rub?

[-Greg72]

I'm building a set of 17 x 9" wheels based off the 16.5" Chevy 8-lug center.





17" is the new 16.5"..... there are a lot of tire choices in a 17" size that just aren't available in the smaller diameters anymore.

I'm definitely NOT a fan of the new "big wheel, small sidewall" craze.... and I like that I will end up with a white painted wheel with a factory hubcap!!!


-G

[Dieselwrencher]

How long have the 16x10 wheel vintiques wheels been available? When I called them for some for my 72 they said they weren't doing 16x10's due to the lack of demand for them. Dang my luck! I already went with 16.5's

[CrewCab59]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

How long have the 16x10 wheel vintiques wheels been available? When I called them for some for my 72 they said they weren't doing 16x10's due to the lack of demand for them. Dang my luck! I already went with 16.5's

It's been 2 years or so.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wv...0805/overview/

[undertaker72]

Originally Posted by -Greg72

I'm building a set of 17 x 9" wheels based off the 16.5" Chevy 8-lug center.





17" is the new 16.5"..... there are a lot of tire choices in a 17" size that just aren't available in the smaller diameters anymore.

I'm definitely NOT a fan of the new "big wheel, small sidewall" craze.... and I like that I will end up with a white painted wheel with a factory hubcap!!!


-G

those look nice are they fitting the bands ok , or are you having to build a ring

[Dieselwrencher]

Originally Posted by CrewCab59

It's been 2 years or so.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wv...0805/overview/

I'll reserve my comments about WV then. It's been maybe 2.5yrs since I was searching for that type of wheel. They told me they had no plans to build them in 16x10 due to the lack of demand. Maybe by the time the 16.5s are bald I won't still hold a grudge with them and I'll get a set then.

[sboris]

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

How long have the 16x10 wheel vintiques wheels been available? When I called them for some for my 72 they said they weren't doing 16x10's due to the lack of demand for them. Dang my luck! I already went with 16.5's

I'm thinking I got mine in 2012 or 13. Better deal through summit than vintiques direct.

[sboris]

Originally Posted by CG

Using old school mags is expensive. You pretty much only find 16.5 inch rims and its really hard to get tires in 16.5. I just put this set together for my K20 and I think Im around 2400 bucks. That's a lot of money to me, but I really wanted the look. I still need to find lug nuts, just haven't had a chance to figure that part out yet.

I know the 24 inch rim guys spend way more on theirs, glad that's not my style lol.

Ummmm. I need those.. Beautes.

[CrewCab59]

Yes I tried to order direct from WV as well but it was still cheaper going with Summit and they used to have the option white PC .

[-Greg72]

Originally Posted by undertaker72

those look nice are they fitting the bands ok , or are you having to build a ring

It turned out to be a LOT of work... The centers had to be substantially welded and CNC'ed to get a tight press fit to the outer hoops.

-G

[1968vetL-71]

i got my 16x10 WV's in 14'. I'll definitely use them again. I'd get a set that wasn't powder coated yet and do it on my own. The powder coat they use was kinda thin but what do ya expect for mass production.

[Rednwhitec20]

Originally Posted by 1968vetL-71

16x10 WV's with newer caps

Can I see a full shot of the truck?

[1968vetL-71]

Its not a 67-72 so excuse the mess. lol Just shows how great these wheels really do look on any tire!!

[special-K]

Originally Posted by Rednwhitec20

Do you think I could use 16x10's with 36x12.50 with my 6" lift and not rub?

Prrrrob-ab-ly be ok. I was going to try 37/12.50s on 8.25s on that truck. The wheel width make a big difference on steering clearance.

Originally Posted by -Greg72

I'm building a set of 17 x 9" wheels based off the 16.5" Chevy 8-lug center.
.....17" is the new 16.5"..... there are a lot of tire choices in a 17" size that just aren't available in the smaller diameters anymore.

I'm definitely NOT a fan of the new "big wheel, small sidewall" craze.... and I like that I will end up with a white painted wheel with a factory hubcap!!!


-G

I had pondered whether 16.5 centers could work with 17" rims. What rims did you use for 17"?

[-Greg72]

Originally Posted by special-K

I had pondered whether 16.5 centers could work with 17" rims. What riks did you use for 17"?

I picked up a set of "drop valley" 17" hoops from Stockton Wheel.

The O.D. Of the Chevy center is about .060" too small to work as-is. Also, the wheels come with quite a bit of offset built into them.... So you either end up with a wheel with around 5.5"-6" of backspacing, or maybe 2" backspacing if you built them as a "deep dish" backwards setup.

That's a TON of leverage working against the stock wheel center though, I'm not sure I'd be willing to drive a truck set up like that.

-G

[Rednwhitec20]

Originally Posted by 1968vetL-71

Its not a 67-72 so excuse the mess. lol Just shows how great these wheels really do look on any tire!!

I like square bodies too. Crew cab 4x4? Even better!

[special-K]

Too bad you can't get a 4"-5" back space on those hoops. I guess the trick is to center with having that .060" overall play

[-Greg72]

Originally Posted by special-K

Too bad you can't get a 4"-5" back space on those hoops. I guess the trick is to center with having that .060" overall play

Yeah, it just won't happen....

By the time to look at the flange width of the stock center (less than 1" wide) and calculate how far you can move it in or out while still maintaining good contact... there's only about 3/8" of adjustment.



Here's the "flat" area you have to work with (as measured with the back of the wheel laying flat on the workbench:





And here's the 16.5" flange itself:





-G

[special-K]

Thanks for sharing that

[70cst]

Great threads guys