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Old 10-27-2009, 08:42 PM   #51
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Re: At Last- Power steering in a I-6

Well, I got in a hurry and forgot to check the flywheel size before bolting every thing together. Trying to beat the rainstorm. The manual 3 speed has a starter that bolts to the bell housing and uses a 168 tooth flywheel/clutch. The starter off a V-8 with a staggered bolt pattern also uses a 168 tooth flex plate. BUT when you change to the starter with the bolts straight across which is what is required on the Inline 6 and a TH 350-- now you need the 153 tooth flexplate. Oops .. Well ,this is a Pioneer #FRA 112 at the local parts house.
It took the 3rd counterman to able to help me. I hate hearing "sorry I do not know what to do now" when it does not have A/C and the year and model are not in the computer. Poor kid did not believe me that some chevy parts DO interchange regardless if the computer does not list them. Good parts countermen are disappearing.
So the transmission comes back out when the rain stops. Better hurry cuz it is supposed to snow on Friday.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:18 PM   #52
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SNOW is a four letter word!
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:13 AM   #53
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It took the 3rd counterman to able to help me. I hate hearing "sorry I do not know what to do now" when it does not have A/C and the year and model are not in the computer. Poor kid did not believe me that some Chevy parts DO interchange regardless if the computer does not list them. Good parts countermen are disappearing.
So the transmission comes back out when the rain stops. Better hurry cuz it is supposed to snow on Friday.
Great info Bubba, sorry to say it's been heading this way for years, when I had my shop I trained all techs to be their own parts men, we had all current parts books from NAPA, then crossed them to what ever line we needed, by doing this it stopped the"I'm waiting on parts" line...and the parts were correct, unless the tech screwed up, and that stopped their whining about the parts store or men.
I use the NAPA online pro catalog now and cross it down, pretty easy to do.

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Truck Dr Dave did you have any luck with the power steering mount. Sometimes craigslist is a good source for parts, watch the projects list i have seen I-6's in there mostly cars 60-70's+ with ps ---Vernski
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Old 10-28-2009, 02:50 PM   #55
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Truck Dr. Dave--- The web sites are great help. I use NAPA, A-zone, Schucks Summit etc to check the part # then see what else this fits before I go the Pick-a-part junkyard.
It also saves time when you take the part number in to their store and they can't find it in the computer because the part you are after is not the same year as the vehicle it will be going in and it blows their mind.
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It also saves time when you take the part number in to their store and they can't find it in the computer because the part you are after is not the same year as the vehicle it will be going in and it blows their mind.
lol I just love doing that! Nice work on the truck, need more pictures though ;-)
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Old 10-28-2009, 06:00 PM   #57
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lol I just love doing that! Nice work on the truck, need more pictures though ;-)
Glad to post more pictures !! Purchase day!! 2/09
My oldest daughter has now laid claim to this truck and wants it for her daily school car. Well .... I guess so.The bodywork and paint can wait.
She and her all her friends think it is cool,(Must be the Twilight thing again)
It is big enough for her to drive as she is 6'0" tall now,
Heck I built it, I can put it back together after the crash.(teen drivers all crash sooner or later)
She won't get more than two friends in it, AND no mischief in it cuz Everybody will know who it is!
It will just increase in value over time.
I'll get it back someday when she is ready for something else.

She is buying new tires for it with profits from her FFA sale Dairy Heifer
Glad I raised farm girls who like livestock and trucks!!
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Old 10-28-2009, 09:02 PM   #58
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Vernski, I've been working on my 68, cleaning it up, as it's been sitting for awhile, kinda thinking about selling it, so I have not really looked as of yet.
Thanks for all of the sources for the part.

Bubba, first of all that is just one good lookin truck, that is the same color as my 68. Your Daughter is a lucky gal to get a truck like that, not many kids want the old stuff...my 16 year old son didn't give a hoot about them, until we were in the 68 and had to kinda get on it and the tires were smokin, now that's all he can talk about is that truck.
I get most parts from AZone, most of the guys know me at the 2 locations close to my house, they use to always give me a hard time about producing part #s, always wanting to double check, I'd tell them that it's not a direct listing for that app, then they would get totally confused, now they just take the shopping list of part #s and fill it without saying anything.
Another good site for sourcing and cross referencing parts is www.rockauto.com I just love being able to do it all from my desk and not have to deal with some nitwit that has no idea of what he or she is selling, it might as well be Ipod skins or ring tones.......if it looks sik or sounds rad then sell it to em.....lol


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Good for you both! She is lucky to get that truck!! I would have loved to have had something like that growing up! lol Thanks for sharing!
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Great looking truck. My wife saw this and mentioned to take her out pass the driveway and let her change a tire.
Makes her respect the rubber and makes all dad's feel safe.
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Daughter has been helping out this summer. I snuck a picture of her grinding out the rivets on the old ball joints when she was not looking.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:56 AM   #62
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Glad to see your daughter taking an interest in the truck, and also helping out in the build......and practicing the use of personal safety equipment.
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Darn weather forecasters! It is snowing big time and wind is howling. Must be time to go hunt elk. The late bull season starts Nov 1st. I am wondering about my sanity as I pack up.
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Darn weather forecasters! It is snowing big time and wind is howling. Must be time to go hunt elk. The late bull season starts Nov 1st. I am wondering about my sanity as I pack up.
Hell , I'd thought you would be home by now.
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OK -I am back from chasing the Elk around the hills.
Transmission came back out,the 168 tooth plate came off, The new 153 tooth flex plate is now on, the new starter is place and shimmed to proper clearance from the flexplate. transmission is back installed. The transmission cooler should go on tomorrow. Shift linkage can start being fabricated.
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So did you bring one back with you?
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So did you bring one back with you?
Saw more wolves than Elk. It is more of a yearly camp trip than hunting. All the guys are parents of FFA and 4-H kids. We get to camp together also at the livestock shows and State Fair. Hunting is a great time to just un-wind with no livestock to take care of!
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Bubba , do you know what year/engine that camaro bracket that was? I need a low cost winter project thought I woud put steering on the 64.
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Bubba , do you know what year/engine that camaro bracket that was? I need a low cost winter project thought I woud put steering on the 64.
I think it was 68-69 vintage I do not completely remember. I found several brackets on E-bay awhile back , but kinda quit looking for them.
It is too cold to even think about working on the truck today, It -4*F this morning . My Drive line is ready to pick up. It is now shortened and balanced,and has new U-joints.
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I think it was 68-69 vintage I do not completely remember. I found several brackets on E-bay awhile back , but kinda quit looking for them.
It is too cold to even think about working on the truck today, It -4*F this morning . My Drive line is ready to pick up. It is now shortened and balanced,and has new U-joints.
Must be to cold to work too? It's so cold I'm thinking about going for a sled ride. So does the engine have to be a 292?

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How about us 235 guys? anyone got pics of power steering on these motors?
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How about us 235 guys? anyone got pics of power steering on these motors?
Sorry-I can not recall seeing any factory brackets.
Check On Langdons Stovebolt web site, maybe he can help. He has lots of stuff for the 235 I-6.
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It is 45 miles round trip to the Driveline shop. This I know cuz I have made 4 trips now.
First I dropped it off and gave them measurements the length of shaft after shortened.
Second took them the Yoke and new U-joints so they could balance it properly.
Third went to pick it up and they had welded in new tube and balanced it but it was 11" too long. They mis-read their measurements on the build sheet! What should have needed only a couple of inches to come out, they built me one a foot too long!
Forth time was a charm Got a shiny new driveline and an apology
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It is 45 miles round trip to the Driveline shop. This I know cuz I have made 4 trips now.
First I dropped it off and gave them measurements the length of shaft after shortened.
Second took them the Yoke and new U-joints so they could balance it properly.
Third went to pick it up and they had welded in new tube and balanced it but it was 11" too long. They mis-read their measurements on the build sheet! What should have needed only a couple of inches to come out, they built me one a foot too long!
Forth time was a charm Got a shiny new driveline and an apology
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Well at least it's done. One step closer. Good luck on the taking over thing. Are you sure you don't live in northern Idaho. Merry Christmas

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Need to get caught up here As winter is nearing a close here in Idaho.
Cut the rear bumper off today as my daughter is opposed to it on general principles. She claims it is sexist.
I saw a posted picture a truck which had a cut down 70's front bumper which was installed like a rear roll pan. looked different but sharp. Back to the pick-a part yard.
A new gas tank is next, I like the tank Lakeroadster put in his truck from a 50 chevy passenger car. just need to order it.

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