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Old 06-17-2015, 09:57 PM   #1
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To prime or not?

I pulled my 350 to mainly fix oil leaks. I took off the valve covers, intake manifold, exhaust manifold, oil pan, oil pump, harmonic balancer, and timing chain cover. I did not remove the valve train, cam, or crank. Do I need to oil prime the engine?

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Old 06-17-2015, 09:59 PM   #2
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Yes, I would.
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Old 06-18-2015, 07:42 AM   #3
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Re: To prime or not?

If you replaced the oil pump it definitely needs priming. If you didn't replace it I am curious why not?
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Old 06-18-2015, 12:39 PM   #4
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if you replaced the oil pump it definitely needs priming. If you didn't replace it i am curious why not?
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Old 06-18-2015, 01:01 PM   #5
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Re: To prime or not?

Since you have already pulled the distributor (changing the manifold) I would. Just cheap insurance. Could probably have gotten away with turning it over with the coil wire off for a bit, but why would you not want to? Unless you already stabbed the dist.?
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Old 06-18-2015, 01:20 PM   #6
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If you replaced the oil pump it definitely needs priming. If you didn't replace it I am curious why not?
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Old 06-18-2015, 02:48 PM   #7
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Prime is fine. Slicker the quicker.
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:00 PM   #8
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If you replaced the oil pump it definitely needs priming. If you didn't replace it I am curious why not?
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Old 06-18-2015, 04:59 PM   #9
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Priming is really easy. It doesn't matter if the engine is still on the stand, or in the truck. Take the distributor out, get a piece of round stock or an old large screw driver a couple of inches longer than the distance from the dist. flange to the bottom of the shaft. If you used round stock flatten the end so it looks like a large screw driver. (I had an old wooden handled screw driver that had broken years ago, so I just cut it off and the business end is in my "special tool" drawer for just this purpose.) Anyway, chuck up the screw driver in a variable speed drill, insert this into the engine, engage the pump slot, and turn the oil pump shaft until you see evidence of oil at the rockers. (During the re-assembly, I hope the plastic guide went back on the pump shaft.) the only tricky part is when you get done priming, the slot has to be in the right position to allow the dist. to engage. Don't force anything, when the pump slot is correct, the dist. will "tunk" right in.
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:16 PM   #10
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Re: To prime or not?

It's worth $10 or whatever the proper tool costs. Failing that we all have old distributors around, just make one out of it. Grind off the gear or (at least one aftermarket ones I've seen) drive out the roll pin and remove the gear.
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Old 06-18-2015, 05:41 PM   #11
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Modifying an old distributor is a good option. Simply turning the pump shaft with a screwdriver or similar is not sufficient. Without something to direct oil to the passenger side galley it will just dump back down the distributor hole & the valve train on that side will be starved. Here is a pic of the proper tool which mimics the distributor:

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Now we're getting there! Everybody says "Prime, prime, prime" but then let an old geezer jump in and say HOW to prime, and out comes the state-of-the-art stuff!
Not trying to offend 68_step, he probably already knew this, but for the new crew I thought it might be worth a few words to explain the process.
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Modifying an old distributor is a good option. Simply turning the pump shaft with a screwdriver or similar is not sufficient. Without something to direct oil to the passenger side galley it will just dump back down the distributor hole & the valve train on that side will be starved. Here is a pic of the proper tool which mimics the distributor:

That's exactly right. Without something directing oil flow it does only prime half(at best) of the motor been there done that.
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:20 PM   #14
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(During the re-assembly, I hope the plastic guide went back on the pump shaft.).
Yep, new retaining collar and pump.
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Modifying an old distributor is a good option. Simply turning the pump shaft with a screwdriver or similar is not sufficient. Without something to direct oil to the passenger side galley it will just dump back down the distributor hole & the valve train on that side will be starved. Here is a pic of the proper tool which mimics the distributor:

I now have one that looks exactly like that. I went ahead and primed it late this afternoon
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Old 06-18-2015, 10:27 PM   #16
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Now we're getting there! Everybody says "Prime, prime, prime" but then let an old geezer jump in and say HOW to prime, and out comes the state-of-the-art stuff!
Not trying to offend 68_step, he probably already knew this, but for the new crew I thought it might be worth a few words to explain the process.
Offend, nope. If I ever stop learning it means I'm dead!
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I now have one that looks exactly like that. I went ahead and primed it late this afternoon
Right on! Best of luck
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Old 06-19-2015, 01:07 AM   #18
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If you replaced the oil pump it definitely needs priming. If you didn't replace it I am curious why not?
That's what I was thinking. And yeah, I'd have replaced that pump.
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That's what I was thinking. And yeah, I'd have replaced that pump.
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Right on! Best of luck
Tonight after work I will cut to length the spark plug wires and charge battery. With any luck tomorrow I will install the new Edelbrock and crank! I hope...
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I ground the teeth off of an old distributer and it works great. I had it laying around and needed it right away. The tool would be great and probably takes less room in the tool box. Both work great.
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