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Old 02-29-2012, 12:32 PM   #1
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In one of the earlier post it was stated that 60-63 did not offer a deluxe heater set up, But according to the options catalog I have they did. This is the 1960 edition page.
You know Jake that first picture is just weird. I've seen it before but never took the time to analyze it. I can't envision any way that could be installed as shown. The long upper intake would obviously have to be connected under the hood to the plenum intake on the upper firewall, but the defroster ducting would have to be inside the cab. And of all the heaters I've seen, the economy models are the only ones to have the fan motor inside the cab. The deluxe models are under the heater core on the engine compartment side of the firewall as shown.

It appears what they did was rotate the fan housing outlet to the side so it could connect directly to the defroster valve, and left out the elbow duct that actually connects the two parts inside the truck. It was probably just slapped together to have a picture for an advertising brochure, figuring nobody would know what it's suppose to look like anyway. But it sure is confusing from a historical documentation standpoint.
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Old 02-29-2012, 12:16 PM   #2
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quick question i have a 66 with a deluxe heater and am wanting to put a economy heater in it for the space under the hood. can i hook my old deluxe controls up some how or will have to also get the eco controls?
I can't confirm on a 66, but I installed a deluxe heater in my 1960 first, and replaced it later with an economy model. The factory operating controls were identical, except the deluxe model used four levers, while the economy model only used two of them. In fact the economy panel only came with two levers, but the 4 lever deluxe panel could perform the same functions. Two of the 4 deluxe levers just wouldn't be connected to anything.
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:53 AM   #3
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I have a complete NOS deluxe 1 in box i will have to post pics when i get a chance to get to it
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:02 PM   #4
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I have a complete NOS deluxe 1 in box i will have to post pics when i get a chance to get to it
You might be able to rotate that blower motor..as they should be clocked for different apps....and use it for the standard pick-up cab....and use the defroster plenum where it should go. Meaning....maybe....that that tilt-cab NOS heater would give you a new set-up for your truck....possibly minus a piece or two. Nothin to complicated..

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BTW...j.kirn....Is it the GMC or the Chev brand...?
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Old 03-11-2012, 02:41 AM   #5
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Old 03-13-2012, 01:12 PM   #6
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I have a complete NOS deluxe 1 in box i will have to post pics when i get a chance to get to it
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Old 03-11-2012, 11:35 PM   #7
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I was told using a blower motor out of a suburban that has rear air and heat vents in an earlier truck, like my 63' will give you a ton of force through the shorter ductwork...the motors should be interchangeable.
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:08 PM   #8
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I was told using a blower motor out of a suburban that has rear air and heat vents in an earlier truck, like my 63' will give you a ton of force through the shorter ductwork...the motors should be interchangeable.
Thats a great idea
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:58 PM   #9
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Re: All about heaters.

mine is a deluxe with that outside control arm missing.without this thread i never would have figured it out.
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Old 07-23-2012, 01:08 AM   #10
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this is great info
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:13 AM   #11
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Re: All about heaters.

Ok Update. Rad shop said that core has holes and it would be about 300 to patch it right. Sorry I can't justiify that much money on something with and 'Out-of-Sight' warrenty (As soon as you're out of sight, it's out of warrenty).

I need to by after market. Based on my measurements I 'believe' it will be part number (32-2509 from LMC $70.00 with trade in. I'm going to call them and see if we can match it up..
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Old 07-31-2012, 03:22 PM   #12
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Re: All about heaters.

Ok I called LMC to inquire about the “deluxe” heater core (part number 32-2510)

http://www.lmctruck.com/icatalog/cbe/full.aspx?Page=31

I was hoping to see a picture vs. a drawing. Sure enough they had a picture on file and sent it me (below). I’m going to order this one and install with an external valve to control water flow. I don’t want to do this, but as the cost to fix the little holes will run $300, it just does not make since to invest this when living in New Orleans, LA. I won’t use the heater all that often and if needed, I’ll just twist a valve open.

I’ll probably need to modify the top of the heater box.

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Old 08-01-2012, 06:04 PM   #13
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Re: All about heaters.

You will indeed have to modify the cover as I've learned w/ my '62 deluxe. After much research and returning cores that did not match my original, I concluded that there is no aftermarket that will match; so I reordered from LMC and cut a new hole in the cover and will eventually patch the lower hole. The real challenge will be cutting the top cover to accomodate the upper tube.
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Old 08-03-2012, 02:40 PM   #14
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Thanks that is what I needed to see. How did you end up popping the hold in; with a punch or just rough cut?
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Old 08-08-2012, 04:12 PM   #15
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Just used a cone shaped burr w/ 1/4" shank. Makes it nice & clean.
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:21 AM   #16
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Ok Update. Rad shop said that core has holes and it would be about 300 to patch it right. Sorry I can't justiify that much money on something with and 'Out-of-Sight' warrenty (As soon as you're out of sight, it's out of warrenty).

I need to by after market. Based on my measurements I 'believe' it will be part number (32-2509 from LMC $70.00 with trade in. I'm going to call them and see if we can match it up..
I ran into the same problem w/my 63 deluxe w/ranco valve. Take the off the shelf deluxe core and your oem core to your local shop. Have them, swap the oem tanks to your new core. Cost around $60 and you will not have to modify anything on the heater box or lid.
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:38 PM   #17
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Re: All about heaters.

Replaced my heater blower motor and discovered that the last person to work on it only re-installed 3 of the 5 screws. There was also 2 missing from the heater core cover.

This has probably been done by alot of guys but thought I would post here anyway........

Went to the hardware store and a couple auto parts stores and could not find the right screws so what I ended uop doing is buying some Stainless Steel self tappers in the right size and ground the tip off. Looks really close to OEM and will hold up much better in this climate.

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Re: All about heaters.

Ok, thought I would mention that the 60-63 metal defrost vents are not integral to the dash, the bolts are underneath the windshield seal and I'm pretty sure are impossible to get at with removing the windshield.
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Old 12-04-2012, 11:39 PM   #19
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Re: All about heaters.

Here is a pic of my 61 suburban.



Great thread!

Thank you markeb01 for pictures of you manuals... helped me figure out where the plug from the fan switch to the fan motor needs to go. I thought something was missing on my rig, looks like there is a spot on the back of the unit in the cab to plug it onto. Might be why my fan is either on or off out of the 4 positions. After plugged in, maybe the fan will have off and then 3 speeds.

Great picture of the auxiliary heater for the suburban aerotruk63, I would love that in mine to warm up the larger space in my suburban. It get kinda chilly in Sandy Oregon.
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Re: All about heaters.

Ordered a new 64-66 blower motor,
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Why is there a 1in hole in the side of the new motor housing?
The old one did not have this hole.
Looks like I will now need a rubber plug to cover this hole....
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Old 12-05-2012, 03:16 PM   #21
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it should be for a breather hose.for other applications.mine came with a plug and instructions explaning if I needed it or not
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Any ideas where to find this breather?
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:34 PM   #23
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you don't really need the hose,a rubber plug will sufice.
I know that gm cars with tight and enclosed areas like the fiero had them.

search heater motor,there is a post some one had showing the hose.

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Okay I found a plug for it thanks, though maybe this motor might need the breather!
But you say no so a plug is what I used!
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