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1970blazin · 10-20-2003, 05:45 PM

I need to put sound deadner in the dash area and under the carpet in my blazer. Maybe in the doors too since we still need to put those together. What is the best stuff, but not too hard to install or too expensive?? Any advice is greatly appreciated. This is our (my husband and me) first restoration, and we are learning as we go.
Thanks-
Diane

BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 · 10-20-2003, 05:59 PM

Well, something that I used was the anti-skid rubber mats that they usually have in semi trailers to keep the load from sliding. It is a pretty thick type of rubber mat that is also very tough. I have 40 series Flowmasters with headers that exit just in front of the rear wheels and only had thin carpet on the floor (VERY LOUD AT 2500 RPMS) you had to almost yell to talk to the passenger!! Now that I have installed the mat under the carpet and behind the gas tank, I can actually talk in a normal tone of voice and so can the passenger at 2500 RPMS. Best of all was the price it was free because at the factory I got it from they were just going to throw it away. It wasn't hard to install I just had to get my tin snips to cut it because scissors couldn't do it, and just used spray adhesive to keep it in place and duct tape to seal the seams. I really like it, no more ringing ears after long trips!!!!

*67Fleetsidedream* · 10-20-2003, 06:23 PM

Check this out http://www.dynamat.com/
The good stuff will cost money

Canada20 · 10-20-2003, 06:37 PM

www.sounddeadeningmaterial.com
www.b-quiet.com

B-quiet is a good site because they have a sheet of samples you can order. It's cheap and good to have because it shows you a variety of products and gives an idea what to look for.

Greg

*Shane* · 10-20-2003, 06:37 PM

do a search on eBay for "Brown Bread" .... very cost effective and just as good as DynaMat. I say this because I have used both.

Terry Peerson · 10-20-2003, 08:51 PM

You might try to find a web-site for Scosche Industries. I think the catalogue was free. They have a product called Accumat (I think). It comes in three or four different thicknesses. I used three kinds in my 68 VW Beetle restoration. It's awesome! Easy to install, self-adhesive stuff. The stuff I used in the doors was a thin material that is called a vibration dampener. Those VW doors sound like a huge Lincoln door when you close them. It really works!

By the way, if anyone is interested, THE VW IS FOR SALE!!!

tp

cdowns · 10-20-2003, 10:19 PM

i used sound deadener that i got from j.c.whitney worked good and was pretty cheap

jorgensensc · 10-20-2003, 10:23 PM

Not trying to hijack the thread, but what about spray in bedliner. I know some have tried it does anyone know if it works? I'm thinking about doing the same 1970Blazin.

Maximum Overdrive · 10-20-2003, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorgensensc
Not trying to hijack the thread, but what about spray in bedliner. I know some have tried it does anyone know if it works? I'm thinking about doing the same 1970Blazin.

Not sure if it would have great sound deading quality but you would think it would be great for preventing rust on floorboards of the cab.

1970blazin · 10-20-2003, 11:00 PM

My husband put Herculiner in the bed and floorboards of our blazer last weekend. It was mostly to save on the rust and protect the metal. I still want more sound deading, I don't think the bedliner will do the trick totally. Here is a pic of the Herculiner. It was a nice easy job and we POR-15ed the rust before appling the bedliner....

Scott Johnson · 10-20-2003, 11:04 PM

I was thinking about using the spray in bed-liner to coat the bottom of my truck and the inside, then installing the sound proof mats. Don`t know if it would work, but the bed liner should be a good rust preventive and seems like it would help noise slightly.

jorgensensc · 10-20-2003, 11:22 PM

1970bazin, I dig your steering wheel!! what did that come out of?

Hooter · 10-20-2003, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Terry Peerson
You might try to find a web-site for Scosche Industries. I think the catalogue was free. They have a product called Accumat (I think). It comes in three or four different thicknesses. I used three kinds in my 68 VW Beetle restoration. It's awesome! Easy to install, self-adhesive stuff. The stuff I used in the doors was a thin material that is called a vibration dampener. Those VW doors sound like a huge Lincoln door when you close them. It really works!

By the way, if anyone is interested, THE VW IS FOR SALE!!!

tp

I use accumat all the time, seems to be the same consistency and stickiness of regular dynamat (not extreme dynamat) but it costs half the money

**N2TRUX** · 10-20-2003, 11:35 PM

I knew an old body man that built street rods for a living. His old cars were as quit as a new car on the inside. He used roofing shingles inside the door's and under the carpet. He cut them to fit, and glued the pieces in place. Then he put the padding and carpet over that. It sounds really ghetto by todays standards, but it worked, and it's cheap....

jorgensensc · 10-20-2003, 11:40 PM

I've heard of that N2TRUX. I thought the shingles ended up smelling in the hot summers?. I also heard they absorb all of the engine and floorboard heat and put it in the cab. Do you know differently?

Hooter · 10-20-2003, 11:57 PM

my friends 73 ford 4x4's floor is covered in shingles to keep the exhaust and water out, they work good for that, and the tar and chicken wire holds up pretty well on the box sides too !!!

jorgensensc · 10-20-2003, 11:59 PM

LMAO!!!!!

**N2TRUX** · 10-21-2003, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jorgensensc
I've heard of that N2TRUX. I thought the shingles ended up smelling in the hot summers?. I also heard they absorb all of the engine and floorboard heat and put it in the cab. Do you know differently?

All I know is I rode in one of the cars that he built. It as a 36 sedan, and it was like being inside a new car. It was very quiet, and when you closed the doors, they had a solid sound to them.

Look at Dyna-mat. It's not much more than a roofing shingle without the gravel on it. They are all made from dense pliable tar like material.

My guess is some of the new thermal/sound barriers are the market are much more effective though...

1970blazin · 10-21-2003, 10:42 AM

Jorgensonsc- That is the steering wheel that was on it when I bought it. The new LMC catalog has them in it on page 63. It is polished hardwood walnut finish, and brushed stainless steel spokes. They sell for 149.95 new. The blue in the centercap actuallly matches the blue on my blazer perfectly! Feels nice too! (You can also get the steering wheel with a GMC cap instead of a bowtie) Thanks for the compliment!

Also what do you guys think about the thick foam insulation for sound deadner? Will is get moldy if moisture gets in the floorboards??

nate68 · 10-21-2003, 11:17 AM

bedliner and then some kind of insulation on top of that, then carpet.
I am using that aluminum foil and bubble wrap stuff and then some other insulation on top of that or underneath it (i cant remember which) and then carpet.

*rickspickuppart* · 10-21-2003, 11:43 AM

We used that silver lined thermal wraping stuff (3/8 - 1/2" thick sold at outdoor carpet places or maybe home even depot) in a blazer and it worked very good and it is super cheap, I think the 3M spray glue cost as much as the insulation.

Shawn

Kid · 10-21-2003, 12:13 PM

go to this web site, page 3240. Has the same thing as dynomat, but industrial intent, (and cheaper).050 thick asphalt sheets. It works great
http://www.mcmaster.com/

69sixpackbee · 10-21-2003, 04:13 PM

This is what I have all over my cab. #9709T19 Polymeric Mastic material. .070" thick with a pressure-sensitive backing. Sticks like hell too!http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/109/html/3240.html#.
Same as Dynamat and FAR,FAR cheaper!
Works great!

tim m · 10-21-2003, 04:24 PM

In the RB Obsolete catalogue they list a spray call cool koat ceramic. It looks like it comes in a 2 gallon bucket. I was wondering if anyone has used it. It is for sound dampening but also for thermal barrier.

BobbyK · 10-22-2003, 12:57 PM

Thick foam could work but be carefull where you put it.Any area that see's any type of heat would prob. melt it.

I used the "Brown Bread" and it's worked great for me.
In your case though, since you already sprayed the bead with the Herculiner I'm not sure how well the stuff would stick on that irreg. surface.
It would prob. work as you have to apply some heat to it when installing it.The heat makes it "mould" to just about any shape.

The price is great,$125.00 for a 70sqft. roll.
I used 1.5 rolles for my Blazer but I covered pretty well EVERYTHING.

10-20-2003, 05:45 PM	#1
1970blazin Blazerless:-( Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Olympia WA Posts: 1,612	Opinions-Best cost effective sound deadner I need to put sound deadner in the dash area and under the carpet in my blazer. Maybe in the doors too since we still need to put those together. What is the best stuff, but not too hard to install or too expensive?? Any advice is greatly appreciated. This is our (my husband and me) first restoration, and we are learning as we go. Thanks- Diane __________________ 1970blazin 1970 CST Blazer-Orig. Dark Blue-SOLD Progress Pics of Blazer for sale

10-20-2003, 05:59 PM	#2
BLACK AND BLUE 67-72 Firefighter Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Yellville, Ar, USA Posts: 1,943	Well, something that I used was the anti-skid rubber mats that they usually have in semi trailers to keep the load from sliding. It is a pretty thick type of rubber mat that is also very tough. I have 40 series Flowmasters with headers that exit just in front of the rear wheels and only had thin carpet on the floor (VERY LOUD AT 2500 RPMS) you had to almost yell to talk to the passenger!! Now that I have installed the mat under the carpet and behind the gas tank, I can actually talk in a normal tone of voice and so can the passenger at 2500 RPMS. Best of all was the price it was free because at the factory I got it from they were just going to throw it away. It wasn't hard to install I just had to get my tin snips to cut it because scissors couldn't do it, and just used spray adhesive to keep it in place and duct tape to seal the seams. I really like it, no more ringing ears after long trips!!!! __________________ '72 Chevy SWB 350 Auto '67 GMC LWB 350 4 speed '70 Chevy 4x4 Stepside 350 Auto Yellville, Ar. USA

10-20-2003, 06:37 PM	#4
Canada20 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada Posts: 802	www.sounddeadeningmaterial.com www.b-quiet.com B-quiet is a good site because they have a sheet of samples you can order. It's cheap and good to have because it shows you a variety of products and gives an idea what to look for. Greg __________________ No such thing as a stupid question, right?

10-20-2003, 10:19 PM	#7
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	i used sound deadener that i got from j.c.whitney worked good and was pretty cheap __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

10-20-2003, 10:23 PM	#8
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,006	Not trying to hijack the thread, but what about spray in bedliner. I know some have tried it does anyone know if it works? I'm thinking about doing the same 1970Blazin. __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

10-20-2003, 06:23 PM	#3
67Fleetsidedream Wiseass secured himself a BAN Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: MOON!!! Posts: 2,282	Check this out http://www.dynamat.com/ The good stuff will cost money

10-20-2003, 06:37 PM	#5
Shane Account Suspended Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: over yonder Posts: 14,270	do a search on eBay for "Brown Bread" .... very cost effective and just as good as DynaMat. I say this because I have used both.

10-20-2003, 08:51 PM	#6
Terry Peerson Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Bonner Springs, KS Posts: 307	You might try to find a web-site for Scosche Industries. I think the catalogue was free. They have a product called Accumat (I think). It comes in three or four different thicknesses. I used three kinds in my 68 VW Beetle restoration. It's awesome! Easy to install, self-adhesive stuff. The stuff I used in the doors was a thin material that is called a vibration dampener. Those VW doors sound like a huge Lincoln door when you close them. It really works! By the way, if anyone is interested, THE VW IS FOR SALE!!! tp

10-20-2003, 11:00 PM	#10
1970blazin Blazerless:-( Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Olympia WA Posts: 1,612	My husband put Herculiner in the bed and floorboards of our blazer last weekend. It was mostly to save on the rust and protect the metal. I still want more sound deading, I don't think the bedliner will do the trick totally. Here is a pic of the Herculiner. It was a nice easy job and we POR-15ed the rust before appling the bedliner.... Attached Images __________________ 1970blazin 1970 CST Blazer-Orig. Dark Blue-SOLD Progress Pics of Blazer for sale

10-20-2003, 11:04 PM	#11
Scott Johnson Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 281	I was thinking about using the spray in bed-liner to coat the bottom of my truck and the inside, then installing the sound proof mats. Don`t know if it would work, but the bed liner should be a good rust preventive and seems like it would help noise slightly. __________________ 71 C10 Step Daily Driver 72 K10 Suburban Work in Progress www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com

10-20-2003, 11:22 PM	#12
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,006	1970bazin, I dig your steering wheel!! what did that come out of? __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

10-20-2003, 11:35 PM	#14
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,023	I knew an old body man that built street rods for a living. His old cars were as quit as a new car on the inside. He used roofing shingles inside the door's and under the carpet. He cut them to fit, and glued the pieces in place. Then he put the padding and carpet over that. It sounds really ghetto by todays standards, but it worked, and it's cheap.... __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

10-20-2003, 11:40 PM	#15
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,006	I've heard of that N2TRUX. I thought the shingles ended up smelling in the hot summers?. I also heard they absorb all of the engine and floorboard heat and put it in the cab. Do you know differently? __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE

10-20-2003, 11:57 PM	#16
Hooter My other Love Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Castlegar B.C. Canada Posts: 4,078	my friends 73 ford 4x4's floor is covered in shingles to keep the exhaust and water out, they work good for that, and the tar and chicken wire holds up pretty well on the box sides too !!! __________________ MEMBER DISCS UP FRONT CLUB 69 custom camper/cst 10 70 monte carlo 383 stroker with a 700r4 77 fully loaded silverado (back in the backyard for a little while longer) 1980 BMW 320i (back in the garage finally) 1981 f@*d f150 4x4 (Robert red ford) tried to kill me 1972 Honda ct 90 trailbike Castlegar B.C.The great white North (Canada Eh!) Hooter_5@hotmail.com AC/DC RULES!!! First generation Monte Carlo club pictures of my life

10-20-2003, 11:59 PM	#17
jorgensensc Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Cypress, Tx Posts: 4,006	LMAO!!!!! __________________ 1972 C20 Suburban- Big Blue Betty '56 Chevy Bel Air Sedan- Frame up Restoration -What would you attempt to achieve if you knew you could not fail?- -I Refuse To Tiptoe Through Life, Only To Arrive Safely At Death's Door- R.I.P. EAST SIDE LOW LIFE



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10-21-2003, 10:42 AM	#19
1970blazin Blazerless:-( Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Olympia WA Posts: 1,612	Jorgensonsc- That is the steering wheel that was on it when I bought it. The new LMC catalog has them in it on page 63. It is polished hardwood walnut finish, and brushed stainless steel spokes. They sell for 149.95 new. The blue in the centercap actuallly matches the blue on my blazer perfectly! Feels nice too! (You can also get the steering wheel with a GMC cap instead of a bowtie) Thanks for the compliment! Also what do you guys think about the thick foam insulation for sound deadner? Will is get moldy if moisture gets in the floorboards?? __________________ 1970blazin 1970 CST Blazer-Orig. Dark Blue-SOLD Progress Pics of Blazer for sale

10-21-2003, 11:17 AM	#20
nate68 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: ca Posts: 1,110	bedliner and then some kind of insulation on top of that, then carpet. I am using that aluminum foil and bubble wrap stuff and then some other insulation on top of that or underneath it (i cant remember which) and then carpet. __________________ 68 short step, 406/700r4, 9" w/discs.

10-21-2003, 11:43 AM	#21
rickspickuppart Account Suspended Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,284	We used that silver lined thermal wraping stuff (3/8 - 1/2" thick sold at outdoor carpet places or maybe home even depot) in a blazer and it worked very good and it is super cheap, I think the 3M spray glue cost as much as the insulation. Shawn

10-21-2003, 12:13 PM	#22
Kid Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 702	go to this web site, page 3240. Has the same thing as dynomat, but industrial intent, (and cheaper).050 thick asphalt sheets. It works great http://www.mcmaster.com/ __________________ The kid Build threads: 51 Jimmy http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=154951 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=219902 http://www.classictrucks.com/feature...uck/index.html 68 C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ad.php?t=50348

10-21-2003, 04:13 PM	#23
69sixpackbee Registered User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Sabinal, Texas Posts: 1,706	This is what I have all over my cab. #9709T19 Polymeric Mastic material. .070" thick with a pressure-sensitive backing. Sticks like hell too!http://www.mcmaster.com/catalog/109/html/3240.html#. Same as Dynamat and FAR,FAR cheaper! Works great!

10-21-2003, 04:24 PM	#24
tim m Registered User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Gilbert Az Posts: 286	In the RB Obsolete catalogue they list a spray call cool koat ceramic. It looks like it comes in a 2 gallon bucket. I was wondering if anyone has used it. It is for sound dampening but also for thermal barrier. __________________ 1970 k10 1971 C10 Gilbert Az

10-22-2003, 12:57 PM	#25
BobbyK Registered User Join Date: May 2000 Location: Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,Mi. Posts: 1,769	Thick foam could work but be carefull where you put it.Any area that see's any type of heat would prob. melt it. I used the "Brown Bread" and it's worked great for me. In your case though, since you already sprayed the bead with the Herculiner I'm not sure how well the stuff would stick on that irreg. surface. It would prob. work as you have to apply some heat to it when installing it.The heat makes it "mould" to just about any shape. The price is great,$125.00 for a 70sqft. roll. I used 1.5 rolles for my Blazer but I covered pretty well EVERYTHING. __________________ 71 blazer,350SBC,approx.375HP,700R4,factory GM TPI.Dual electric fans,33x12.5x15 ATR on stock suspension. Petrolia,Ontario,Canada but working in Port Huron,MI. See ALL my Blazer pic's HERE

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