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Old 10-13-2010, 04:31 PM   #1
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rear helper bags

Anybody have this? I'm satisfied with my suspension but want to put something heavier in the bed at times. This seems like a good compromise.

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Old 10-13-2010, 05:15 PM   #2
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Re: rear helper bags

I put something similar in my 2006 Silverado (leafs) recently. It works good.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:15 PM   #3
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Re: rear helper bags

Not trying to hyjack the thread but how about something like this:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Air+Lift/022/60736/10002/-1

http://www.jegs.com/InstallationInst.../022-60783.pdf

Seems like this would be much easier to install (assuming you now have coil springs). I don't have actual experience using either, but I too have contemplated adding something for extra load carrying capacity.

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Old 10-13-2010, 07:54 PM   #4
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How about something like this:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Air+Lift/022/60736/10002/-1

http://www.jegs.com/InstallationInst.../022-60783.pdf

Seems like this would be much easier to install (assuming you now have coil springs). I don't have actual experience using either, but I too have contemplated adding something for extra load carrying capacity.
I like these. cheap also.
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:25 PM   #5
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The Jegs kit is what Im planning to use in my El Camino and possibly in my truck later on. A friend of mine swears by them.
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:00 PM   #6
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Re: rear helper bags

This is what I have. The kit is from Jegs it's for a jeep if I remember right. I had to drill a hole in the rubber pads for the air line and that was all. No more bottoming out either.



Ran the air lines back and made them the tag holders.They are great and I haven't had any air since I got them aired up.

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After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:03 PM   #7
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Re: rear helper bags

I just went with air shocks I had from an old S10; I mounted a schrader valve next to the license plate. I wouldn’t depend on it for a ton of weight but it helps with a little load.
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:05 PM   #8
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Re: rear helper bags

I'm with andy on this. I have a set of those for a a/g body in the back of the burb. I have 4 inch truck lowering coils in the back, and the rear axle was slamming into the frame every time I'd floor the throttle. They work great.
I wouldn't recomend air shocks. The hock mounting points on these trucks rear end are lame and break easily.

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Old 10-13-2010, 10:06 PM   #9
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Re: rear helper bags

I have air shocks now but they raise my truck up when I put air in them . Looks like the helper bags would just help with the load & not lift the back end & I could then run good shocks on the rear...
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:22 PM   #10
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they'll lift. They'll lift a whole lote more than you'd guess.
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:51 PM   #11
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they'll lift. They'll lift a whole lote more than you'd guess.
thats not what I wanted to hear...
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I'm with andy on this. I have a set of those for a a/g body in the back of the burb. I have 4 inch truck lowering coils in the back, and the rear axle was slamming into the frame every time I'd floor the throttle. They work great.
I wouldn't recomend air shocks. The hock mounting points on these trucks rear end are lame and break easily.
Hence the "I wouldn’t depend on it for a ton of weight but it helps with a little load". I don't recommend pulling a fifth wheel with them! But in the winter I put a few bags of sand in the back and it helps with the squatting since I am running 3in drop springs out back, and stock up front. I don't care for the squatting dog look.
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Old 10-14-2010, 08:16 AM   #13
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Re: rear helper bags

The down side to air shocks is a harsher ride, all the time. You have to keep a certain amount of air in air shocks all the time or they will be damaged. With the air spring if you let the air pressure down they won't change the spring rate and the ride won't be affected, thus the ride quality isn't changed. If you need to carry a load in the truck then you air up the spring, which will at that point change the ride quality. Which is what the original post by Mondo was about.

The air springs locate in the coil springs, and the coil spring mounts are structural support locations for the truck suspension, which is were load is supposed to be applied. Shock mounts were never intended to hold up the truck, just for rebound.

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Old 10-14-2010, 12:41 PM   #14
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Anybody have this? I'm satisfied with my suspension but want to put something heavier in the bed at times. This seems like a good compromise.

http://www.performanceonline.com/196...DE-ASSIST-KIT/
Mondo, that is the very same set up I used in my 71 long bed for years. (replaced 1 bag after about 6 years) Best thing I ever did. the truck was lowered 4", but when I hook up the boat or race trailer, just apply air tell my ride height is back to normal, then would ride better than when not towing. You will love the setup... Personally I would be concerned about putting bags within the coil springs, the chafing could ruin the bags in time.
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Old 10-15-2010, 04:05 PM   #15
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Thanks Kid.
Couple other things to do first but I'll plan on buying these. I too like the idea of them being seperate from the coil springs... nothing to rub
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:09 PM   #16
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Re: rear helper bags

Bringing this back I guess for a few questions. First if I am using TJ springs in the rear of a 67 and lowered shocks I would need a Jeep helper air bag set up correct? How much of a helper is it really? Thanks guys!!!!

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Old 11-19-2010, 08:00 AM   #17
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Re: rear helper bags

I'd use a kit for the truck.

The bags in the coil are totally adjustable with air pressure.That's the beauty of them.You have a minimum pressure,so they don't pinch or dislodge,without changing ride height.The more air you add the more the rear comes up.But you can firm it up w/o lifting.These bags add a true 1,500# of spring capacity.At least the Air Lifts do.That's what I've used.
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Old 11-19-2010, 11:55 AM   #18
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I've used the Air lifts for years. They work great and are cheap!
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Old 11-19-2010, 01:16 PM   #19
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I've had my setup for over a year now. I can't see any problems at all with it. Once you inflat the bag it's there, it ant going to move on you. You would have to loose all the rear end weight to let it shift.
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After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:46 PM   #20
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I've had my setup for over a year now. I can't see any problems at all with it. Once you inflat the bag it's there, it ant going to move on you. You would have to loose all the rear end weight to let it shift.
One thing I don't get about these bags is how they don't rub a hole. With all the issues of true air suspension bags not being able to rub anything due to damage, how do these bags remain in tact while applying pressure to a moving spring?
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Re: rear helper bags

I understand this is an old thread, but I would like to add to the load capacity of my 70 C-10. I can't find an application specific airlift 1000 style helper bag. What part number are you guys using? Would I be better off just replacing the springs with a bag kit? I like the factory ride hight and comfortable ride. Any suggestions pros/cons either way? I've done a lot of reading, I would like comments from people who have first hand experience with these systems.

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Old 09-04-2018, 11:38 PM   #22
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Re: rear helper bags

The one the "Kid" used is still for sale... pretty basic but at least you have one recommendation for it.

https://www.performanceonline.com/19...-Leaf-Springs/

I changed my rear springs to a 6in lowered spring with 500lb rating by Early Classic a long time ago. Haven't pursued this any further.
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Old 09-05-2018, 06:06 AM   #23
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I give you the part number in my signature. At the time I ordered them they didn't have a kit per our models. now they do.

I have these bags in all 4 corners of my 71 and I have a complete air ride system sitting in the garage now for over 5 years that I just can't bring myself to install.
My truck rides like a new car and it handles darn good for a LWB truck. I'm not going to screw that up for a air ride system.
My rear bags are over 10 years old the fronts are 5 years old.

According to there website this is for a 71 Blazer.




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After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

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Re: rear helper bags

Since this was brought back up...
Andy did you add spacers to yours? If so how did you determine how much to space this down. I don't haul much except a cooler, a few tools and my suitcases. But this is interesting to try and the price is not bad.
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Since this was brought back up...
Andy did you add spacers to yours? If so how did you determine how much to space this down. I don't haul much except a cooler, a few tools and my suitcases. But this is interesting to try and the price is not bad.
Thanks,
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Dave I did order extra spacers just for insurance that what I did worked. I had them put the same spacer as the kit came with. I didn't want to drill a hole through the rails for the air line fittings to come out the top. So I used the extra spacers to drill and angle the air line into the bag.

The fronts I mounted upside down and just have the air line come out of the lower a arm.
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