Calling all LS1 converted trucks.

[jkade]

Originally Posted by shifty

for the sake of archiving this stuff, i compiled a list of all of the most recent GenIII buildups I have seen. a lot of people incorrectly refer to it as "LS1 swap", so i'm going to stick to "GenIII" where truck engines are used.

i know i'm going to miss one or two (like the member with the yellow 4x4 truck that i can't think of right now - Bob is his name, i think?), but ... we'll get there, i'll edit it later to add threads.

The guy who gave me the idea - FirstGen - and his GenIII/T56 swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=111137

'68 short step' GenIII buildup thread:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=195643

'68fleetsidec20' buildup thread, one here, one at ls1tech:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239446
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=707811

'Hart_Rod' and his 5.3/4l60E buildup:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387

'killer71' and his Trailblazer SS engine swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=244448

'oscareltemblo' and his GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

'RedAddiction' and his GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

'SavageSpeed' and his tubbed/tricked out GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

'ST Mike' and his GenIII swap into '67 C10:
http://blogs.sporttruck.com/6205862/...ive/index.html

'Wasted Income' and his GenIII buildup:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2217111

Finally, Sandemonium's thread about aftermarket A/C kits that i found informative:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=243789

A link back to this thread for prosperity and rememberance (in case this gets copied and pasted elsewhere):
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=233302

I also know a couple other 67-72chevytrucks.com members not represented here with swap threads who have the swap in progress right now:

-> lazybra1n
-> hyde
-> gringoloco
-> Sandemonium

Not sure if this will ultimately help anyone, and I haven't yet raided the LS1tech forums for others out there who've done the swap and have buildup threads, so ... if anyone has something to contribute, please shoot me a PM. I prefer to stick with forum buildup threads rather than personal webpages or photo galleries, because half of the links I have in my original build thread from the past 18 months have been taken offline! The only ones still alive are those at this forum and LS1tech.

If you are doing a buildup thread, for the sake of future reference, PLEASE do not hotlink your images to a personal webpage, upload them to this forum so they stay around - forever - and we never lose em. thanks!

Good work Shifty

[Musclerodz]

Originally Posted by Wasted Income

I think it's a wives tale about the pump lasting longer being submerged in gasoline.

The frame mounted pump has fuel running through it to "cool" it, and the thermal conductivity of the air flowing past the pump is just a bit less than that of gasoline.

Think of the heat that is being added to the fuel through pumping to the fuel rail, and back to the tank.

Given that the fuel and ambient air start at the same temp, the fuel will soon be hotter than the ambient air around the pump.

I don't buy it.

Not BS, it happens. It is all heat disappation. With the pump in the tank, it has the cool fuel to pull the heat from the pump. It ambient air, the motor builds heat and the surrounding air will not draw the heat from the pump which causes the fuel to heat up and vaporize. Perfect example is too heat an item up in the oven and see how long it takes too cool down. Then heat it up again and run ambient temp water over it as see how fast it cools. When installing the pump in the tank, they usually install a pan at a minimum that the pump remains submerged in fuel even with a low tank. With the pump in the tank, if you run out of gas, the pump immediately regains its prime with more fuel where an inline pump down stream can be hard to prime if the tank is incorrectly plumbed.

Mike

[68 short step]

Originally Posted by shifty

for the sake of archiving this stuff, i compiled a list of all of the most recent GenIII buildups I have seen. a lot of people incorrectly refer to it as "LS1 swap", so i'm going to stick to "GenIII" where truck engines are used.

i know i'm going to miss one or two (like the member with the yellow 4x4 truck that i can't think of right now - Bob is his name, i think?), but ... we'll get there, i'll edit it later to add threads.

The guy who gave me the idea - FirstGen - and his GenIII/T56 swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=111137

'68 short step' GenIII buildup thread:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=195643

'68fleetsidec20' buildup thread, one here, one at ls1tech:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=239446
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=707811

'Hart_Rod' and his 5.3/4l60E buildup:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387

'killer71' and his Trailblazer SS engine swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=244448

'oscareltemblo' and his GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

'RedAddiction' and his GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

'SavageSpeed' and his tubbed/tricked out GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

'ST Mike' and his GenIII swap into '67 C10:
http://blogs.sporttruck.com/6205862/...ive/index.html

'Wasted Income' and his GenIII buildup:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s....php?p=2217111

Finally, Sandemonium's thread about aftermarket A/C kits that i found informative:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=243789

A link back to this thread for prosperity and rememberance (in case this gets copied and pasted elsewhere):
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=233302

I also know a couple other 67-72chevytrucks.com members not represented here with swap threads who have the swap in progress right now:

-> lazybra1n
-> hyde
-> gringoloco
-> Sandemonium

Not sure if this will ultimately help anyone, and I haven't yet raided the LS1tech forums for others out there who've done the swap and have buildup threads, so ... if anyone has something to contribute, please shoot me a PM. I prefer to stick with forum buildup threads rather than personal webpages or photo galleries, because half of the links I have in my original build thread from the past 18 months have been taken offline! The only ones still alive are those at this forum and LS1tech.

If you are doing a buildup thread, for the sake of future reference, PLEASE do not hotlink your images to a personal webpage, upload them to this forum so they stay around - forever - and we never lose em. thanks!

[JHART]

Originally Posted by Kid

I gotta get in on this thread, Finally got around to getting a pic taken, its just a 5.3, not an LS1, oh well.
Got a few more pics of the buildup on the 47 to 54 forum

I'm probably wrong but i thought the 5.3 is a LS1. A version of it at least. I'm prolly wrong.

[jkade]

Originally Posted by JHART

I'm probably wrong but i thought the 5.3 is a LS1. A version of it at least. I'm prolly wrong.

Basically, the bore is about the only difference and I believe ls1's are aluminum blocks.

[JHART]

Valve size is a bit bigger int he LS1 too .....

Like i said ... i'm prolly wrong. lol

[jkade]

Originally Posted by JHART

Valve size is a bit bigger int he LS1 too .....

Like i said ... i'm prolly wrong. lol

Yes they are, accessories are different, pistons are differnet, heads are different, oil pan is different, intake is different, injectors are different, wiring harness is different, etc. You can turn a 4.8 or a 5.3 into a iron block ls1 like I am doing with not a lot of parts, especially if you have a 5.3

[JHART]

What parts are you changing? Are you going with a larger bore also?

[jkade]

Originally Posted by JHART

What parts are you changing? Are you going with a larger bore also?

Basically all I am using is the block and oil pan. I am boring and installing ls1 pistons, crank, rods, ls6 heads, ls6 intake, ls6 injectors and I will run the car accessories.

[shifty]

Originally Posted by JHART

I'm probably wrong but i thought the 5.3 is a LS1. A version of it at least. I'm prolly wrong.

Actually, here - you are wrong - http://www.automotiverebuilder.com/ar/eb040538.htm

There is an LS1, LS6, LR4, LM7 LQ4 and LQ9, and all are varying sizes, with the LQ9 being the most desireable for buildup purposes.

There is a lot more information out there describing each, but I don't have the time to look it up (sorry )

[LOW DOUGH]

nice

[69Custom]

Shifty here is my link to my build. You probably didnt know that I did it.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=117144

04 5.3L SSR Motor with a 99 Camaro 4l60e

[shifty]

Thanks, added!

[HarrolLS1]

Hey shifty, I was wondering if these three links are comming up the same for you...I keep getting the same info. Just checking.... great work...there are some build ups there that I have never seen. Thanks this is a great idea.

'oscareltemblo' and his GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

'RedAddiction' and his GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

'SavageSpeed' and his tubbed/tricked out GenIII swap:
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=196844

[shifty]

Links fixed! Still haven't parsed through LS1tech to get all the threads i can find there. when I do, i'll re-bump the thread.

[shifty]

Just added board member '68GenIII' and his swap thread, along with a link to discussion on headers, and a link to an article in a popular 4x4/offroad magazine's swap.

[HarrolLS1]

You are the man shifty... thanks for the links. Are you going to the Good-Guys show this weekend in Atl.?

[shifty]

Nope, got a close friend of mine in town from NY, so I'll be tied up with her and my fiance for the weekend. Besides that, I've got a partially shattered toe with a full cast on my leg that won't let my ankle bend, so ... it's incredibly hard to walk. More info and pics here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=243166

Only extra work I'll be doing this weekend is trying to pull a couple of random sprigs of crab grass in the yard and swapping out a simple part in my VW.

[jkade]

A little heads up on guys wanting or doing the conversion. I finished up making my harness stand alone today. If you have the pinouts it is really not a lot of trouble converting a harness. Here is a link with the pinouts http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312119

This one is for a 98 and those are the wires you take out and use to power the harness, etc http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=312119

[abadsvt]

Are the 6L motors from trucks the same as the 6L corvette or gto motor except the intake? I would imagine that the 6L truck motor is cheaper than buying the "corvette" name. Thanks Josh

[gringoloco]

Yep. Same thing, for the most part. Iron block as opposed to aluminum and ~1/2 point lower compression.

[jkade]

Some more info.... I bought a set of fans and a radiator out of a 98 camaro and it is the same height or close enough to the stock radiator. You can save some money this way, both with all the hoses on the radiator and the fans shipped for $100 bucks.

[piecesparts]

I found this truck in Arkansas a few years ago. I did not buy it, but I should have. The motor and tranny are from Street and Performance and were installed in Mena, Arkansas. The truck was a strong runner and you could not glue it to the ground, even if you wanted to. Cruise along at 30 MPH and step on it and the rear tires would just light up like a roman candle.

[boostat4500]

The Vette' and GTO 6.0l is an LS2. More differences than the block and compression, but still fairly interchangable. A few engine covers and sensor locations being the biggest differences.

[Hart_Rod]

Originally Posted by piecesparts

I found this truck in Arkansas a few years ago. I did not buy it, but I should have. The motor and tranny are from Street and Performance and were installed in Mena, Arkansas. The truck was a strong runner and you could not glue it to the ground, even if you wanted to. Cruise along at 30 MPH and step on it and the rear tires would just light up like a roman candle.

I remember seeing that truck while I was there. I think it sold for around $10K. Someone got a great deal.