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Old 04-12-2019, 10:27 AM   #1
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Smile 1954 Suburban "Buster"

After years of buying, selling, parting, assembling, and never really owning what I want...I cleaned house and sold all of my trucks and put the money up for a bit while I searched for what I wanted. A 1954/55.1 Chevy Suburban.

My mom bought a 54 3100 when I was 8 and drove it for 3 or 4 years. I remember her scraping windows with a Montgomery Wards Auto Club card when it was frosty. I remember her chugging through the column shift. I remember when she sold it. After 30 years my son has what is left and we made a heck of a hot rod out of it together.

Now it is my turn!

I'm still waiting for the shipment from Phoenix but a bright yellow 54 is on it's way in the next month to me. In the mean time I've started assembling a stock 54 panel chassis that my son found in Chicago a few years ago. I've got front disc brakes swapped, a POL Power Steering conversion kit to go on, a 350TPI/700r4 with computer combo, CPP engine and trans cross members, a ZR2 disc brake rear axle, and an underfloor power brake unit. A set of Posie's lowering springs are in the front.

The intent is to look fairly stock but underneath have some go and whoa.

My younger son took a look at the photos and said "call it Buster because it looks like a school bus" so Buster is the name.

And yes, it has the dash mounted clock housing!! No, you can't have it!!

I'm looking for some guidance (and yes, I've been using the search function) on installation of the engine cross member and motor location. Do I NEED to trim the front cross member where the I6 would have bolted in? I see some posts that look like I do, others maybe not but clarity isn't there. Any help is appreciated. Don't let the TPI unit scare you, the rear of the engine is just a HEI dizzy so that is what will be the clearance concern to the firewall.
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Re: 1954 Suburban "Buster"

That's cool....never seen the clock before....
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Old 04-12-2019, 10:40 AM   #3
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Where it all began...Court's 54.
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Old 04-12-2019, 10:41 AM   #4
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That's cool....never seen the clock before....
I'm hoping to have Court be able to duplicate it. Know a guy who's made his own 3D printer. Would be nice for a set of gauges across the dash. I think same mechanical clock as the Bel Air from what I've seen. I may still have one from my old car.
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Re: 1954 Suburban "Buster"

Hi Dan! Looks like a nice start, will be watching! I think I remember Court's truck from the HAMB? Leevon
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Old 04-12-2019, 05:21 PM   #6
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Hi Dan! Looks like a nice start, will be watching! I think I remember Court's truck from the HAMB? Leevon
Yep. Heís 26 now. Manufacturing Engineer for a solar panel manufacturer. This picture is from last August at Detroitís Historic Fort Wayne. Great time. Hope to drive Buster this year!

Just got home from buying a parts truck.
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Old 04-12-2019, 09:08 PM   #7
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Re: 1954 Suburban "Buster"

Looks like you've got a solid one to start with...
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Re: 1954 Suburban "Buster"

I had to cut out my original engine crossmember when I added my tubular style one. The forward most crossmember shouldn't need any trimming, mine was kinda a close fit but no problems so far.
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I had to cut out my original engine crossmember when I added my tubular style one. The forward most crossmember shouldn't need any trimming, mine was kinda a close fit but no problems so far.
Thanks, Matt. Yours was the only one I could find and couldn’t tell if you trimmed the front one or not. I did remove the rear one. Got any side shots? Looking to see roughly where you mounted the cross member. Did you relocate the brake line tabs as well?

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Setting the engine and trans in together I did my best to get the pinion angle pretty close. After that I got it just close enough to firewall that I could squeeze my hand between wall and dizzy. Where the firewall and floor meet... it's like mayelbe a 1/4 inch away from touching the trans.

I think I used some 3/4 inch thick wood scraps to help. I stuck them inside frame on each side and sat the crossmember on them and did a quick tack.
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I lost the original brake line bracket pieces. Made some new ones though and they are in same spot. Two rivets hold them on on each side. I could only get the rearward bolts in though because the forward two are covered by the crossmember end pieces. I can try for better pics tomorrow.

I also later added the tubular style trans member too.
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Looks like you've got a solid one to start with...
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Thanks, Marc. Yourís is amazing. Iím not a body man so I am getting one from Phoenix.

Looks like you are about due west of me. Maybe a bit north.
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My younger son took a look at the photos and said "call it Buster because it looks like a school bus" so Buster is the name.

thats a great name!
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Old 04-13-2019, 07:05 AM   #14
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I lost the original brake line bracket pieces. Made some new ones though and they are in same spot. Two rivets hold them on on each side. I could only get the rearward bolts in though because the forward two are covered by the crossmember end pieces. I can try for better pics tomorrow.

I also later added the tubular style trans member too.
Thanks. Thatís what I was looking for. Iím going to bolt it in just in case I need to remove. I have the rear tubular member as well. Without the body here Iím kind of guessing on location. I am picking up a parts 53 panel to use for mock up and other parts for my younger sonís 49 3800 panel. Pics to follow! That 1/4Ē should be sufficient. I just want to get the motor in as close as it should be while I wait for the real thing. I want to get brakes, brake lines, axle, and driveshaft in. Maybe even the start of fuel lines. Not going to blow my wad on a tank if there are already 2 with Buster. I will try to slide it all forward this afternoon once the parts panel is home.
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Cool, another Burb build! Tagging along for the rest.
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Weather has sucked so no work done. Nephew bought a house with 2 barns a few miles away. May transfer my pile to his place this weekend to get the chassis wrapped up. Title came in the mail today. Just waiting for Ben D to pick up the truck in about 10 days and deliver. I'm getting excited!

Found a 71 Chevy van tilt column on CL this morning...may have to go to Ohio for a purchase.
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Good story and a nice truck. Have fun with it.
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I haven't really paid attention to the burbs. I've only seen pones without windows too, I kinda want one like yours...
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Update! Ben D has picked up Buster this week and heís resting comfortably in Texas through the weekend. The nose is in the back as it wasnít bolted down. Safer to ship that way!
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Buster made it home last week and my younger son, Eli, and I spent yesterday working on clean up of his 49 3800 panel and my 54 Suburban. Amazing how much crap can build up in an old truck over 30 years of sitting. The seats were some power seats out of a full size sedan and they were yucky! After getting those out and hosing down the floor and doors I hit the driver's side with some rubbing compound. It took a lot of scrubbing and several coats but she has a bit of shine now. A coat of wax is on tap! That and ridding the windows of all of the old bubbled up window tint. Mocking up Trailblazer seats that we've had for a while.

Pictures later. Having issues currently!
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....After getting those out and hosing down the floor and doors I hit the driver's side with some rubbing compound. It took a lot of scrubbing and several coats but she has a bit of shine now. A coat of wax is on tap! That and ridding the windows of all of the old bubbled up window tint. Mocking up Trailblazer seats that we've had for a while.

Pictures later. Having issues currently!
Excellent. If I met: cleaning top that paint might go a little quicker if you. color sanded it with 2000 grit before attempting to polish & wax it. Just an idea. I bet you get a decent appearance out of that paint.
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Resized. Will see if that works. Thanks, Dan for the idea on 2000 grit. Sounds like a better plan than what I was doing! The hood is rough and the fenders have a lot of build up over the years.
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....Thanks, Dan for the idea on 2000 grit. Sounds like a better plan than what I was doing! The hood is rough and the fenders have a lot of build up over the years.
You're welcome.

WARNING: Just my opinion coming: I'm not a fan of what a lot of guys call "patina" - I mean the rusty, dead flat paint from decades of buses or neglect.

I AM a fan of what I think really constitutes patina. Decades of polishing and caring for paint and chrome - even if it wasn't in that good of condition to begin with. My Dad's purchased-new, black '55 Chevy two door hardtop Belair to bring home his newborn son (me) was polished through to the orange factory primer in places by the time I got it at 17 because he tried to take care of it all those years.

PS: I wonder if there's chrome under your black painted grille? Some citrus paint stripper (if it's chrome under there) and then 0000 steel wool/wax will bring up whatever remains of it. Best of luck and please post pictures.

I think if you get it all shiny - even if you polish through to primer or bare metal - it'll look like someone's been trying to keep it nice through the years. Anyway, just my $.02. Whatever you do, as long as YOU like it is what's important!
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Thanks, Dan. I love a paint job showing age like you describe. I do not like faux patina, either. I want to put the best possible shine on what I have until I can afford to have a real nice paint job done!
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Thanks, Dan. I love a paint job showing age like you describe. I do not like faux patina, either. I want to put the best possible shine on what I have until I can afford to have a real nice paint job done!
Agreed on the "faux" patina. The words make it sound like it's desirable when all it really means is fake.

If my truck had had anything remotely resembling its original paint I'd have tried the sand & polish method. But it was a mess. In hindsight, I do wish I'd tried it on a fender to see what was under there, but oh well.
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