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01-23-2018, 09:45 PM | #1 |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
I don't think the issue is as much whether they are less strong or more strong than factory hooks - the issue I have is that they ARE different (one way or the other) yet they are made specifically and on purpose to be indistinguishable from GM hooks (aside from the bogus bend) to include part number. So in the future the third hand buyer will think he has the safety of GM factory hooks. And he might have even more, or he might have much less. I am going to go out on a limb and say that the $50 hooks that more than meet the actual need have been fully proven to actually be that strong. They're just inexpensive because they're not a rare part. Whether originality is important to a specific truck owner is a matter of personal preference and the intended use of the truck. But all that aside, misrepresentation of a GM part (and its inherent strength with the engineering behind it to give you the warm fuzzy that it's "probably pretty strong because GM for dang sure protected itself against liability") is just flat wrong. Given the various reasons we like trucks, I'm not sure there's gonna be a long line of folks to buy hooks with, at the very least, unknown strength. If the background engineering proof were present to claim a certain strength level, then many folks would probably accept these as a substitute that's "good enough" in the looks department. Until that time when the engineering data is shared, the part number is removed, and they are proven to be more than just cosmetic, they are a huge risk to an uninformed buyer that thinks any tow hook "must" be strong if it's being sold to the public"... The seller is taking a pretty big risk too. If they are indeed strong, then the info to prove a product should be included - otherwise, it might as well be plastic.
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01-23-2018, 11:04 PM | #2 |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
no... the issue is that:
they are not stronger they are castings the cost more they are dangerous it is a deceptive practice. |
03-10-2018, 12:52 PM | #3 |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
Someone should 3D Print a bunch in black plastic. You'd have the look and no one would try to tow off it, because it'd be obvious once you touched it!
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03-10-2018, 01:53 PM | #4 |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
Except, knowing the human condition, someone would try to use it!
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03-11-2018, 11:32 AM | #5 |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
...true, but the good news is that the hook would fail before any people or equipment was damaged...which is a good thing.
Sort of a mechanical fuse... Coley
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03-11-2018, 11:47 AM | #6 |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
Well, I just clicked on the original link, that listing ended but the item was re-listed. Price was dropped to $375 and that listing was sold. So.... we might see a YouTube video shortly of someone attempting to use it!
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03-13-2018, 11:49 AM | #7 |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
Complete novice on this, but does the "ductile" cast iron make a difference? Is that somehow better than regular cast iron, or is he just adding random words?
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03-13-2018, 11:57 AM | #8 | |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
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in simple terms "ductile" means that the material can bend and flex somewhat without breaking... cast iron cannot bend and flex... neither are as strong as forged steel....
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03-13-2018, 12:27 PM | #9 | |
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The purpose of the recovery hook is to provide a safe and secure point from which to recover a stuck vehicle. The hook should be strong enough to enable the recovery of a stuck vehicle, but more importantly must be designed so that if recovery forces exceed the design forces, it fails in a safe manner. To do so the hook must bend and release the rope. If the hook fails by breaking, the loose metal becomes a potentially lethal missile.
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03-13-2018, 12:44 PM | #10 |
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Re: New replica tow hooks!
Thanks, ya'll makes sense.
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