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Nova70 · 02-01-2011, 06:40 PM

To bad it's not a LWB.

VA72C10 · 02-01-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nova70

To bad it's not a LWB.

Now you've gone and stuck a stick in the hornet's nest

**RenoKeene** · 02-01-2011, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoomin

See post 53.

I'd like to hear Rene's opinion of the value if it was fake. Seems like "tribute" cars on the B-J auction fetch nice money anyway.

I would say 16-18K as it sits, 0rig with documentation could bring 25-30. My Dad and 3 brothers are Auctioneers and 1 has worked B-J, a lot of the SOLD units are sold back to the seller.
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RCbowtie69 · 02-01-2011, 07:50 PM

All i can say is SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!! & the sound of a Big Block is priceless

mcbassin · 02-01-2011, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RenoKeene

Dad and 3 brothers are Auctioneers and 1 has worked B-J, a lot of the SOLD units are sold back to the seller.
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How do you make money buying your own truck? sorry to hijack I watch all the Barret auctions.

1956cameo · 02-01-2011, 08:23 PM

Great find!! Too bad there is no SPID. Unless an original build sheet could be found inside the resale value will suffer due to lack of documentation of authenticity. I would have thought as many short bed C-10s you have had you would have found a factory SWB BB Cheyenne. I got lucky and found a '69 SWB BB a few months ago. The only thing that sucks about it is it's a Custom and not a CST. Good luck!

**RenoKeene** · 02-01-2011, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mcbassin

How do you make money buying your own truck? sorry to hijack I watch all the Barret auctions.

They loose.....have to pay the fees and take their stuff home.
It's away to get around the "no reserve" deal.
Didn't hear it from me though............
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**DANTIP** · 02-01-2011, 08:53 PM

I suspect (just because of the missing SPID and a few other details) this truck was either a lesser optioned SWB BB (not a big problem), or more likely a former LWB BB. Nothing I see leads me to that suspicion, that is just what I have found when looking closely at many trucks advertised as SWB BB trucks. If it is found to be a real SWB BB (correct frame, BB exhaust hangers, correct weights, original VIN rivets, etc.), I think it would easily be worth high teens to mid twenties. I like the color too.

**Dieselwrencher** · 02-01-2011, 09:48 PM

It's threads like this that really bring out what the things are to look for when trying to find an original truck. Thanks for all the tips guys.

**70cst** · 02-01-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

It's threads like this that really bring out what the things are to look for when trying to find an original truck. Thanks for all the tips guys.

Also the truck isn't being bashed...

C/10 King · 02-01-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic Bowties

Would have really left you scratching your head had she came across member chipflyer/outintheshop.com and had one of his spids installed. A customer in Modesto recently told me half of the shorties he comes across down his way are riding on chopped down frames, you just never know these days. Mel

Yes, now a days there's a sh#t load of cut down trucks, which is okay if "done right!" I still believe this is at least a "real shorty", reason being 20 years ago the average shop in a little town probably wouldn't have done it and someone in their 60's would be okay with a longbed.

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Rene- I am surprised nobody has asked...did you get a pic of the VIN plate? That will tell a lot of the story. See if the original rosette (flower) rivets are still there. Also check the number and see if it begins CE1 or CE2. If CE2, it was 3/4 ton LWB, if CE1 it was 1/2 ton, either LWB or SWB...since it is a 71, if the VIN begins CE1, I would tend to believe it is a true SWB. Of course, you would need to crawl underneath and look at the frame to see if it has been cut and if the frame and cab numbers match.

That being said, as it sits this truck would still IMHO bring 15K with no problem. Add some upgrades as you stated, and 17-20K would sell to the right buyer.

I didn't stick around too long, just in case it turned up missing later.

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Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher

This is still a very nice truck. It may not be all original, but I wouldn't care.

X2...... But now, I don't believe in the Easter Bunny anymore.

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Originally Posted by Zoomin

See post 53.

I'd like to hear Rene's opinion of the value if it was fake. Seems like "tribute" cars on the B-J auction fetch nice money anyway.

It would still fetch real good money, some people who are unaware of this forum still don't care about a SPID, because they leave their glove boxes closed and will go for a BB, options and looks alone.

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Originally Posted by OldSkool71

I am suspect of anything that loaded being original...especially with the SPID missing...red flag...It's still kewl...and that is what is kewl about these trucks and other vehicles for that matter...build the one you want...it may not be original...but its yours...and you can have the one you want with out BJ prices...

X200

**lolife99** · 02-01-2011, 10:03 PM

Wonder what it would look like with "full wheel" hubcaps and whitewalls?
Hmmm.

Longhorn Man · 02-01-2011, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

Wonder what it woulod look like with "full wheel" hubcaps and whitewalls?
Hmmm.

worse

CircusWagonJim · 02-01-2011, 10:46 PM

I'm going to go off the page here and remind everyone Rene says this truck has been running around like this for 20 years- at that time (especially in California where PLENTY of the trucks were still running around) NO ONE I heard of at that time was to the point of cutting down long-bed frames- and you could actually find Short Bed Big Block trucks with less than a months effort. So I would bet that it was a what it appears to be with a few things added to an early restoration. I remember when people were restoring these in the mid-eighties and going to the dealer to buy EVERYTHING you needed except paint and seat covers.
At that time there also was not nearly as much interest in reading and preserving the glove box tag- if it was dirty- you removed it and painted the door with no real concern about documentation.
That's just a perspective of someone that lived through the era- not looking at it through todays eyes.
In fact I just remembered my dad's best friend had one of the RAREST trucks I have ever seen- a black on black '72 Cheyenne Stepside with a Big-Block, Auto, A/C, buckets, tilt, P/S, P/B, tach and shoulder harnesses from the factory. It was lowered from the day he took it off the lot- and one thing I remember him being proud of was the glove box door he had CHROMED! There goes the SPID! Just wasn't a big deal- they were trucks, not Corvettes.

Longhorn Man · 02-01-2011, 10:50 PM

that thing sounds awesome jim

C/10 King · 02-01-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 1956cameo

Great find!! Too bad there is no SPID. Unless an original build sheet could be found inside the resale value will suffer due to lack of documentation of authenticity. I would have thought as many short bed C-10s you have had you would have found a factory SWB BB Cheyenne. I got lucky and found a '69 SWB BB a few months ago. The only thing that sucks about it is it's a Custom and not a CST. Good luck!

Bring me the head of the person, who said "I never had a Cheyenne BB SWB"

CircusWagonJim · 02-01-2011, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

that thing sounds awesome jim

It was! Used to ride in the back to swapmeets with his son, who later became a dope head in the eighties and "stole" the truck one night and wrecked it pretty bad- his dad restored it and GAVE it to him! My dad NEVER gave me a car! And I never stole one and I helped restore all my dad's classic cars! It got beat up again- fixed again and as far as I know the dad has it in Arizona where he retired.

C/10 King · 02-01-2011, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CircusWagonJim

I'm going to go off the page here and remind everyone Rene says this truck has been running around like this for 20 years- at that time (especially in California where PLENTY of the trucks were still running around) NO ONE I heard of at that time was to the point of cutting down long-bed frames- and you could actually find Short Bed Big Block trucks with less than a months effort. So I would bet that it was a what it appears to be with a few things added to an early restoration. I remember when people were restoring these in the mid-eighties and going to the dealer to buy EVERYTHING you needed except paint and seat covers.
At that time there also was not nearly as much interest in reading and preserving the glove box tag- if it was dirty- you removed it and painted the door with no real concern about documentation.
That's just a perspective of someone that lived through the era- not looking at it through todays eyes.
In fact I just remembered my dad's best friend had one of the RAREST trucks I have ever seen- a black on black '72 Cheyenne Stepside with a Big-Block, Auto, A/C, buckets, tilt, P/S, P/B, tach and shoulder harnesses from the factory. It was lowered from the day he took it off the lot- and one thing I remember him being proud of was the glove box door he had CHROMED! There goes the SPID! Just wasn't a big deal- they were trucks, not Corvettes.

Yeah!!!!! what he said!

sameyrasmea72 · 02-01-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by teeitup

It is a nice truck but I'm thinking the motor got swapped in from a 71 or older BB truck maybe even a C20. The motor stands look like they are the older style, not very wide on top side in one driver side motor pic. The upper Alt bracket is older style and I don't see the back bracket that goes to exhaust manifold but that one is sometimes taken off. And as Keith said the 3/4 brake booster. Its is still nice though and I drive it, probably was a swb 350 originally. Also not to contradict you Jim, but in 1981 here in Kansas I was cutting blazer frames and adding frame to make one a SWB 4x4, and also cut down a few LWB to swb but that was in Kansas not California. On worth mid teens probably

It's a 71 truck.

teeitup · 02-01-2011, 11:35 PM

Oh good call I was thinking 72 for some reason, sorry disreguard I deleted what I said. Nice truck

teeitup · 02-01-2011, 11:39 PM

Wow I must of drank more than I thought I have

**special-K** · 02-01-2011, 11:46 PM

Like I said,"Is she single????"

sameyrasmea72 · 02-01-2011, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by teeitup

Wow I must of drank more than I thought I have

Randy, I know it's a little chilly outside, but put the bottle down.

teeitup · 02-02-2011, 12:06 AM

Cold heck Jason supposed to get -8 and -25 wind chill with the ice and 10 inches of snow, got to do something to stay warm wife already went to sleep on me

OldSkool71 · 02-02-2011, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by teeitup

Cold heck Jason supposed to get -8 and -25 wind chill with the ice and 10 inches of snow, got to do something to stay warm wife already went to sleep on me

02-01-2011, 06:40 PM	#76
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02-01-2011, 07:50 PM	#79
RCbowtie69 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 1,877	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB All i can say is SWEEEEEEET!!!!!!!!!!!!! & the sound of a Big Block is priceless Last edited by RCbowtie69; 02-01-2011 at 07:51 PM.

02-01-2011, 08:23 PM	#81
1956cameo Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Angleton, TX Posts: 2,219	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB Great find!! Too bad there is no SPID. Unless an original build sheet could be found inside the resale value will suffer due to lack of documentation of authenticity. I would have thought as many short bed C-10s you have had you would have found a factory SWB BB Cheyenne. I got lucky and found a '69 SWB BB a few months ago. The only thing that sucks about it is it's a Custom and not a CST. Good luck! __________________ I don't always drive trucks; but when I do I prefer Chevy's. Stay driving my friends. '72 blazer 2wd build 67-72 Factory Big Block Registry

02-01-2011, 08:53 PM	#83
DANTIP Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, USA Posts: 1,880	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB I suspect (just because of the missing SPID and a few other details) this truck was either a lesser optioned SWB BB (not a big problem), or more likely a former LWB BB. Nothing I see leads me to that suspicion, that is just what I have found when looking closely at many trucks advertised as SWB BB trucks. If it is found to be a real SWB BB (correct frame, BB exhaust hangers, correct weights, original VIN rivets, etc.), I think it would easily be worth high teens to mid twenties. I like the color too.

02-01-2011, 09:48 PM	#84
Dieselwrencher 6>8 Plugless........ Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Prairie City, Ia Posts: 17,138	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB It's threads like this that really bring out what the things are to look for when trying to find an original truck. Thanks for all the tips guys. __________________ Ryan 1972 Chevy Longhorn K30 Cheyenne Super, 359 Inline 6 cylinder, Auto Trans, Tilt, Diesel Tach/Vach, Buckets, Rare Rear 4-link and air ride option Build Thread 1972 GMC Sierra Grande Longhorn 4x4 1972 Chevy Cheyenne Super K20 Long Step side tilt, tach, tow hooks, AC, 350 4 speed 1972 C10 Suburban Custom Deluxe 1969 Chevy milk truck 1971 Camaro RS 5.3 BTR STG3 Cam Super T10 1940 Ford 354 Hemi 46RH Ford 9" on air ride huge project *Tired of spark plugs? Check this out.*

02-01-2011, 10:03 PM	#87
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,683	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB Wonder what it would look like with "full wheel" hubcaps and whitewalls? Hmmm. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 02-01-2011 at 10:24 PM.

02-01-2011, 10:46 PM	#89
CircusWagonJim Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 707	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB I'm going to go off the page here and remind everyone Rene says this truck has been running around like this for 20 years- at that time (especially in California where PLENTY of the trucks were still running around) NO ONE I heard of at that time was to the point of cutting down long-bed frames- and you could actually find Short Bed Big Block trucks with less than a months effort. So I would bet that it was a what it appears to be with a few things added to an early restoration. I remember when people were restoring these in the mid-eighties and going to the dealer to buy EVERYTHING you needed except paint and seat covers. At that time there also was not nearly as much interest in reading and preserving the glove box tag- if it was dirty- you removed it and painted the door with no real concern about documentation. That's just a perspective of someone that lived through the era- not looking at it through todays eyes. In fact I just remembered my dad's best friend had one of the RAREST trucks I have ever seen- a black on black '72 Cheyenne Stepside with a Big-Block, Auto, A/C, buckets, tilt, P/S, P/B, tach and shoulder harnesses from the factory. It was lowered from the day he took it off the lot- and one thing I remember him being proud of was the glove box door he had CHROMED! There goes the SPID! Just wasn't a big deal- they were trucks, not Corvettes. Last edited by CircusWagonJim; 02-01-2011 at 10:47 PM.

02-01-2011, 10:50 PM	#90
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB that thing sounds awesome jim

02-01-2011, 11:35 PM	#95
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB Oh good call I was thinking 72 for some reason, sorry disreguard I deleted what I said. Nice truck __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure" Last edited by teeitup; 02-01-2011 at 11:37 PM.

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teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB Wow I must of drank more than I thought I have __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

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teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB Cold heck Jason supposed to get -8 and -25 wind chill with the ice and 10 inches of snow, got to do something to stay warm wife already went to sleep on me __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure" Last edited by teeitup; 02-02-2011 at 12:07 AM.



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