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C10Sim 09-23-2009 03:54 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Man, it seems that you do what you gotta do to get things done! The long or short way = true hobby passion.

At first the rattle-can seems questionable, but I have seen great adhesion performance with these cans in the past. I think the only concern will be paint thickness but I see how you use the texture to create more durabillity.

Keep it up!

VA72C10 09-23-2009 04:00 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
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Originally Posted by C10Sim (Post 3534029)
Man, it seems that you do what you gotta do to get things done! The long or short way = true hobby passion.

At first the rattle-can seems questionable, but I have seen great adhesion performance with these cans in the past. I think the only concern will be paint thickness but I see how you use the texture to create more durabillity.

Keep it up!

thanks, it got it's first test when some idiot knocked it over when I ( I mean he :lol: ) was moving the frame over. Knocked it right off the jackstands and onto the floor. About a 2 1/2 foot drop. Slid about 2 feet when it hit the concrete because it was going sideways....amazingly only took a couple small scratches out of the paint. I am sold on this stuff now 100%. Think if that had been a Powdercoated frame...:sumo: I would have been kicking myself. This way a little scuff and shoot and good as new.

It probably would have only cost me a few hundred more for powder but that will pay for some more custom mods I have planned and I really prefer the ability to touch up the paint easily. I WILL be driving this and will be able to touch up things from time to time if it gets scratched up through use.

VA72C10 09-23-2009 04:04 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
I also think prep work has a lot to do with how the rattle can stuff works. I grinded the frame to mostly bare metal, wiped it down, blew it off with air, and wiped it with laquer thinner. Then applied the automotive grade rustoleum stop rust primer. Two light coats of that followed by three coats of the hammered finish. I will most likely do two more coats since I have to touch it up now anyways (idiot :devil: :lol: )...and it will cost about $12 more :lol:

VA72C10 09-23-2009 04:05 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
I have drilled through the painted frame with no issues either of chipping or peeling. Then I just shoot the holes with more hammered paint and it's good to go...

C10Sim 09-23-2009 04:07 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
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Originally Posted by VA72C10 (Post 3534046)
thanks, it got it's first test when some idiot knocked it over when I ( I mean he :lol: ) was moving the frame over. Knocked it right off the jackstands and onto the floor. About a 2 1/2 foot drop. Slid about 2 feet when it hit the concrete because it was going sideways....amazingly only took a couple small scratches out of the paint. I am sold on this stuff now 100%. Think if that had been a Powdercoated frame...:sumo: I would have been kicking myself. This way a little scuff and shoot and good as new.

It probably would have only cost me a few hundred more for powder but that will pay for some more custom mods I have planned and I really prefer the ability to touch up the paint easily. I WILL be driving this and will be able to touch up things from time to time if it gets scratched up through use.

That sell me too! I have experience with powder coat and this was what I was planning to do to my frame but I have desided to go with 2 stage paint instead that way I can do touchups if needed.

If I keep the next project orginial, I might just consider the rattle!

0331grunt 09-23-2009 04:28 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
I really like the two-tone hammer finish look on the frame/suspension. I think I will do something similar. It's coming along good. (Now if I could get the chance to work on mine...:lol:!!)

70k52wd 09-23-2009 04:35 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Long live the rattle can. Done right, it works great. That wrinkle stuff is great.:metal:

Btw, I love the red interior reference pic. Sporty!
Shaved firewall will definitely be a nice touch also.:thumbs:

mx574 09-23-2009 11:53 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
I like how you cleaned up your cab. keep up the good work.

VA72C10 09-24-2009 12:07 AM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
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Originally Posted by 0331grunt (Post 3534104)
I really like the two-tone hammer finish look on the frame/suspension. I think I will do something similar. It's coming along good. (Now if I could get the chance to work on mine...:lol:!!)

Thanks. There are several colors of rattle...they even make it to work on plastics now...

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70k52wd (Post 3534110)
Long live the rattle can. Done right, it works great. That wrinkle stuff is great.:metal:

Btw, I love the red interior reference pic. Sporty!
Shaved firewall will definitely be a nice touch also.:thumbs:

Thanks man, I just LOVE the way the smooth firewalls look, I've wanted a nice A/C setup, and I just picked up a frame mounted brake bracket.

I really like that red interior. It won't look the same because I am not changing my dash, but I will be smoothing the center part of the dash between the gauge bezel and the glovebox door. The console will end up flowing up into the dash and to the back and into the sub box behind the seats.

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Originally Posted by mx574 (Post 3534943)
I like how you cleaned up your cab. keep up the good work.

Thanks. It took about 6-7 hours to clean the bottom of the cab that clean between undercoating, dirt, and rust. Started with the wire wheel to knock off the most junk and went to the grinder to take it to bare metal.

ccracin 09-24-2009 08:17 AM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
I just got to look through your build. Lookin good! Isn't it amazing how one thing affects another? Every idea I come up with makes me have to come up with 10 more to solve the issues I create with the first idea. Man! Keep up the good work.

VA72C10 09-24-2009 08:56 AM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ccracin (Post 3535220)
I just got to look through your build. Lookin good! Isn't it amazing how one thing affects another? Every idea I come up with makes me have to come up with 10 more to solve the issues I create with the first idea. Man! Keep up the good work.

thanks!

VA72C10 09-25-2009 12:00 AM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Got the final patch panels needed (other than the passenger door bottom) today as well as the trailing arm bushings and bed bolts. Got them from Athey's truck parts. Thanks Bill! Had them pulled and ready for me to stop by and pick them up.

VA72C10 09-26-2009 10:42 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Dropped off the cab patches and inner and outer rockers. Everything looks like a very good fit except the passenger side rear cab support. I had another one and that worked well so whenever he gets time to weld them on, the cab will be done.

I took off the heater box from the cab as step 1 of shaving / smoothing the firewall. Glad to see there was no rust underneath. The heater core had to be brand new when I got the truck.
Finished up taking out the rest of the wiring. The only thing holding the wiring in is the ignition switch. I got a little tool that's supposed to help remove that so I will try that tomorrow.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore009.jpg
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore007.jpg

VA72C10 09-26-2009 10:52 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Thought about the trailing arm bushings after I had painted the arms....so I just picked those up and went to remove the old ones tonight....not fun. Well, honestly, they're not too bad as long as you have a good plan. The first one took an hour with Jason helping me for 15 minutes of that. In reality I wasted 55 minutes and then figured out how to do it. Jason recommended drilling out the rubber in the middle of the gasket. I did that and the pin would come out with a little persuasion. I had smashed the end of the metal sleeve so I then had to push that back into shape then used a socket to knock the sleeve out of the arms.

THe second arm took me literally two minutes. Drilled out holes in the rubber, hammered the pin flush, used the other old pin to hammer it out, pulled the old pin and rubber out, and then 4 or 5 taps with a hammer and appropriate sized impact socket and the sleeve was out. Test fit the bushings and they will be a good but tight fit. Cleaned up the trailing arms a little more, sanded a few rough spots, cleaned and prep'd them, shot them in primer, and then two more coats of hammered silver. Painted the custom transmission crossmember while I was at it.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore001.jpg
Out with the old
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore002.jpg
In with the new (after paint)
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore003.jpg
I will have to write the size of this impact socket down because it is a perfect fit for when I go to press in (hammer in) the bushings after paint.
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore004.jpg

VA72C10 09-26-2009 10:54 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Here's the painted arms and tranny crossmember

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore011.jpg

And a gratutitous action shot I took of myself grinding on the truck last week. I need to ask Jason to take some pictures of me working because the only proof I have are my dirty arm pictures... :lol:

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...ssembly001.jpg

VA72C10 09-26-2009 11:01 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
And here's the C-notch finished painted with the provided bumpstop. I still have to get some red loctite to tighten this down but I wanted to show this in case someone is wondering how to do the bumpstop w/ a notch.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore005.jpg

Got my holes drilled for my polished stainless battery box. Painted them up last week and got some stainless hardware to attach it to the truck. Should have the box this week.
This is one reason I really like spraypainting the frame...I was able to drill these holes after the original paint and in 10 minutes I primed and applied a new coat and you cannot tell that they weren't painted originally.

http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore006.jpg
http://i562.photobucket.com/albums/s...andmore006.jpg

VA72C10 09-26-2009 11:09 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Gotta get new bolts for the trailing arms. I am going to mock them up tomorrow to get verify the locations to drill holes for the airbags. Plan on getting those holes drilled, bags mounted, and I also plan on cleaning up the rest of the front end parts and hopefully painting them.

I got the Scotts brake booster/master relocation bracket in the mail today from JLaird. One more step towards a shaved firewall.

brian69longbed 09-27-2009 06:26 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
when i removed my ign switch it sucked. i didn't have the tool! ha ha hopefully it works out for ya.

VA72C10 09-27-2009 08:07 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
I'll find out tomorrow hopefully. I've been under the weather today and my youngest daughter had a 101 temperature so I've been staying around the house.

brian69longbed 09-27-2009 08:21 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
keep an eye on that temp!

VA72C10 09-28-2009 02:56 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
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Originally Posted by brian69longbed (Post 3540450)
keep an eye on that temp!

Definitely...she's doing better today. I still feel horrible but that hasn't stopped me from working and won't stop me from working on the truck tonight. Have to go get my brother in law's shower fixed first though....:waah: :lol:

VA72C10 09-28-2009 11:01 PM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Got the trailing arms on, bags mocked, and tranny X-member set in it's approximate position...started playing with the frame mounted brake booster. Pics to follow later...

brian69longbed 09-29-2009 12:38 AM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
push through the pain ha ha adda boy!

mx574 09-29-2009 12:57 AM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
I like your bump stop. Was wondering myself how to use bump stops(and if-alot of people do not and let the truck squish the bags). Are you running any for the front?

VA72C10 09-29-2009 01:35 AM

Re: 1970 VA Longbed Project
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by brian69longbed (Post 3542816)
push through the pain ha ha adda boy!

Yep, ya gotta do what you gotta do :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by mx574 (Post 3542830)
I like your bump stop. Was wondering myself how to use bump stops(and if-alot of people do not and let the truck squish the bags). Are you running any for the front?

The bumpstop with the notches is from CPP. You can get them separate. I am going to get a slightly larger bumpstop to use for the front in place of the factory bumpstop. It will still be much smaller than the factory one...just in case of bag failure to prevent metal on metal. Even though the RE-7 bags have internal bumpstops, I figure safe is better than sorry.


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