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MDPotter 10-31-2019 09:20 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
I have the same plug in the back of my intake manifold, I was wondering what that was. I'm just leaving mine plugged since I have hydroboost.

It's exciting to see our interiors coming together!

TA_C10 10-31-2019 12:22 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scurry67 (Post 8618951)
Man you're getting some stuff done! You'll be on the road before you know it. How'd the sandblasting go? Nice work!

Sandblaster drops off everything today. We had a cold spell come through so I am probably going to wait till Saturday to epoxy everything. But if the weather cooperates I might do it tomorrow.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MDPotter (Post 8619065)
I have the same plug in the back of my intake manifold, I was wondering what that was. I'm just leaving mine plugged since I have hydroboost.

It's exciting to see our interiors coming together!

For sure, and it's cool to have so many guys at the same stage so you can see what each other is running into.


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TA_C10 10-31-2019 07:22 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Just found out it appears the steering coupler on the rag joint is a different diameter depending on power steering gear vs manual steering gear..... I had a manual steering gear before. Now that I went power, the coupler doesn't seem to fit.... Rebuilt that for nothing...

SCOTI 10-31-2019 09:10 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Just do the Jeep XJ shaft swap/upgrade.

siggyfreud 10-31-2019 11:53 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Damn man you're in a roll lately! Coming together nicely! Did you get your new harness in yet? Interested to see what the bulk head connector looks like.

TA_C10 11-01-2019 12:07 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Scoti thanks, I will look into that upgrade. Siggy thanks man, I am sending back the deluxe universal I got and getting the full classic update harness. Brothers is hooking me up with this. Shipping it off tomorrow.

Blaster brought back everything tonight, it all looks great, hardly any body filler found on everything. Bed, doors, fenders, etc. So tomorrow I'm going to be painting everything with epoxy. Big day. Then over the weekend I'm going to try and get some body work done filling holes in doors and minor dent repair on fenders. I might have time to sand my hood and epoxy that too. It's been sitting bare metal now for six months or longer. I sprayed it with that dry coat stuff and it really did a great job keeping it from rusting.

MDPotter 11-01-2019 09:22 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
You can always count on your truck to surprise you. But that's good to know on the steering since I had manual gear before.

SCOTI 11-01-2019 10:21 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA_C10 (Post 8619545)
Scoti thanks, I will look into that upgrade. Siggy thanks man, I am sending back the deluxe universal I got and getting the full classic update harness. Brothers is hooking me up with this. Shipping it off tomorrow.

Blaster brought back everything tonight, it all looks great, hardly any body filler found on everything. Bed, doors, fenders, etc. So tomorrow I'm going to be painting everything with epoxy. Big day. Then over the weekend I'm going to try and get some body work done filling holes in doors and minor dent repair on fenders. I might have time to sand my hood and epoxy that too. It's been sitting bare metal now for six months or longer. I sprayed it with that dry coat stuff and it really did a great job keeping it from rusting.

If you haven't already seen this....
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=505196

TA_C10 11-01-2019 09:37 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDPotter (Post 8619651)
You can always count on your truck to surprise you. But that's good to know on the steering since I had manual gear before.

That's the truth.... :waah:

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8619682)
If you haven't already seen this....
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=505196

This is a great write-up / information Scoti, thanks for this. I may do this in the future. I ordered the proper rag joint for power steering gear. It was less than $50 so it should just bolt right in. But I like the idea of the upgrade so if this rag joint is less than desirable over time I will use this.


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TA_C10 11-01-2019 09:40 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
I had to build some racks to hang parts for paint today. Hoping to get all the parts in epoxy tomorrow. Bed, grill, fenders, cowl, hood, hood hinges, rear wheel tubs, rear fender splash guards, and the LS alternator and power steering bracket.


http://i.imgur.com/C150TXTh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/kWzGygNh.jpg


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1971Stepside 11-02-2019 11:31 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
It's amazing how much work goes into being able to do the work sometimes. I'm hoping to epoxy my bed on Monday evening.

cornerstone 11-03-2019 11:10 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Excellent idea for temporary racks!

TA_C10 11-03-2019 12:05 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 1971Stepside (Post 8620300)
It's amazing how much work goes into being able to do the work sometimes. I'm hoping to epoxy my bed on Monday evening.

Isn't that the truth... I took Friday off work so all day Friday I built the racks, then I hung as many parts as they would hold, and only got around to cleaning them before I had to turn around and put everything back in the garage for Saturday. I spend most of my time unpacking, cleaning up, and repacking the garage...

Did you take your bed apart? Can't remember. My bed ended up being in pretty dang good shape rust wise. Very little pitting.


Quote:

Originally Posted by cornerstone (Post 8620793)
Excellent idea for temporary racks!

Thanks man, I just threw these together on a whim. Two 16ft two by's, four 8 footers, and a spool of 12awg wire. Cost like $25 in wood and the wire was $12 ish I think. I already had the 2.5" drywall screws so I only spent I wanted a short rack but should have just made 2 talls. The short rack I cut the 8ft down to 6ft. When I hung the big long bed sides only 1 for per rack so the short rack hung a little low so it was kinda difficult to get the paint gun underneath. But I made it.


Today is day three, still not done. I have the bed rails and doors left to spray. Glad I took Friday off jeez.... I'm hurtin boys, I'm living on Advil today and probably next two days... ;)


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TA_C10 11-03-2019 11:52 PM

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Well everything has epoxy now... Been a long 3 days. A couple of parts even got a little color ;)

Pics for your viewing pleasure.


http://i.imgur.com/wF1TuEBh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/cvc9bX3h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/5zRMERKh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/OQBr646h.jpg


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MDPotter 11-04-2019 12:25 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Nice work on those stands. I remember how sore I was after my big day of painting haha.

1971Stepside 11-05-2019 11:56 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Did you take your bed apart? Can't remember.
I did. Took it to the booth yesterday. Hope to be able to shoot primer tonight.

TA_C10 11-05-2019 08:55 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDPotter (Post 8621410)
Nice work on those stands. I remember how sore I was after my big day of painting haha.

Thanks man, and yeah, still a little sore but it's worth it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1971Stepside (Post 8622009)
I did. Took it to the booth yesterday. Hope to be able to shoot primer tonight.

It's crazy to see how bad my cab was, but the bed in such good shape. I got to looking at my front fenders though, and the top of them have small holes and the seam where they come together inside top looks pretty eaten up. Not bad enough for average eye to notice from outside but if I go cutting and patching, they are probably gonna be tough to weld and need major work... I really don't want to buy new fenders, I hear nightmares about them not fitting...

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TA_C10 11-07-2019 09:15 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Update - Steering Shaft / Rag Joint Complete

Got the steering shaft installed. New rag joint came in. The new rag joint was a larger diameter as you can see in the photos below. It still took some manipulating however, had to use a little persuasion to get it started then it slid right on. I lined up the section in the joint that was smoothed(no teeth) with the flat end on the steering gear shaft.

Then of coarse after I got the shaft installed, I noticed I forgot the retaining collar for the top part of shaft, so i had to take it back off again and beat the shaft off the steering column with a big rubber mallet... :rolleyes:

Then I finished the shaft and slid the steering column back down where it needed to be and noticed it got scratched/chipped by the firewall collar rubbing on it while i was doing all this work... Whatever. Easy fix but dang it.....


Old joint

http://i.imgur.com/zIiOYPlh.jpg

New joint

http://i.imgur.com/uEjJFrBh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bT4UJIph.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1Z2q4yxh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/nxkX0A5h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/I8QG6jnh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/B1RV9Yyh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/djNTzVdh.jpg


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cornerstone 11-08-2019 01:26 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Killer progress man.

MDPotter 11-11-2019 12:26 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Where did you get that shift indicator? That will match my 4L80E perfect.

I just ordered a new rag joint and my rebuilt van conversion column is on order and I'm hoping it all goes together.

TA_C10 11-11-2019 12:53 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
70shortfleet built the column for me. I asked for the indicator. It's also been shorten 2" for my height, tilt, and he shipped with cruise control turn signal. He does great work.

TA_C10 11-11-2019 01:37 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Update - Brakes

This thing can now stop on it's own! I fought leaks for 2 days. But it was all my fault really. But there was a union that was ruined because of the line flare, it wasn't even so when it made it's impression inside the union it was angled and didn't seal.

I had to re-bend both of the SS lines going from frame to prop valve. Actually wasn't as bad as I though. They aren't perfect but they will do. I was able to straighten the lines completely and then start over using a large socket to make my pigtail coils.

Check out post 395 to see the before pics of the SS brake lines before I re-bent them.


http://i.imgur.com/Lm3AHfgh.jpg


I ended up cutting the flares off both sides of this union. I got a compression union from local hardware store to replace. It sealed perfectly and I think the compression union was a better choice anyways.

http://i.imgur.com/U9aDywxh.jpg



This guy, the crush washers that came with the kit didn't have thick enough washers. Only one thick washer... So the passenger side sealed just fine. The driver side ended up leaking like crazy so I doubled up the washers on the caliper side. Sealing just find now. I don't think your supposed to double them up but it's all I had.

http://i.imgur.com/jCOX2uTh.jpg

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MDPotter 11-11-2019 02:37 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TA_C10 (Post 8625125)
70shortfleet built the column for me. I asked for the indicator. It's also been shorten 2" for my height, tilt, and he shipped with cruise control turn signal. He does great work.

He's doing mine as well. I'll ask him if we can do the same indicator.

MDPotter 11-11-2019 02:42 PM

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I remember having the same issues on my dad's stainless lines. Almost every fitting had a leak, but eventually we got them sealed up by loosening, tightening, loosening, tightening, and tightening more than we thought necessary. We had the most trouble with the banjo bolts but eventually got them to seal up. I'm nervous about a couple of my flares that I made on mine. I guess we'll see what happens.

Stainless looks a lot nicer than mild steel!

TA_C10 11-11-2019 03:54 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDPotter (Post 8625197)
I remember having the same issues on my dad's stainless lines. Almost every fitting had a leak, but eventually we got them sealed up by loosening, tightening, loosening, tightening, and tightening more than we thought necessary. We had the most trouble with the banjo bolts but eventually got them to seal up. I'm nervous about a couple of my flares that I made on mine. I guess we'll see what happens.

Stainless looks a lot nicer than mild steel!

Yeah I agree the SS is nice. So if you have flare issues, I highly recommend the compression style fittings instead, they work so much easier and to me the seal better. They are just a one time use kind of thing is the issue I guess but really, you could just buy the little compression sleeves if you ever needed to break them open in the future, get them on amazon super cheap.

I fought like 5 different leaks in the system. Felt like SS was the wrong way to go at that point but then I found out I just didn't tighten 3 of them. Then the one union that I had to replace, it wasn't bad after I thought about the compression sleeves. And the caliper banjo crush washers were an easy fix too, just had to go to store to get correct stuff.

I bought a $30 pneumatic brake bleeder kit from HF that is really cool. Bottle sits on MC, open the valve, it keeps the fluid full for you. Then you go to each wheel like normal and the air hose creates vacuum and pulls the fluid and air out for you pretty quick. I like it :thumbs:

EDIT: I forgot to mention also that I just dropped off my tailgate, one of the front fenders, and drivers bed side for metal repairs. Fender has rust holes and few other small things to fix, bed side has a big dent/crease from the bumper hitting it at some point in its life, and the tailgate needs a new outer skin, it wasn't worth fixing. I am running out of time and need help so I decided to let a local guy fix these for me. I still have some work to do on the other pieces but this is the big stuff and he can do a better job while I put the rest of truck together.

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cornerstone 11-11-2019 06:26 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Is there any reason besides weight transfer and aesthetics to mount your battery down on the frame rail? Which drop out tray did you get if you don’t mind sharing. I’m debating wether or not to do this also.

TA_C10 11-13-2019 10:12 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cornerstone (Post 8625345)
Is there any reason besides weight transfer and aesthetics to mount your battery down on the frame rail? Which drop out tray did you get if you don’t mind sharing. I’m debating wether or not to do this also.

Well I guess I am relocating the battery for a couple reasons. 1. Since I'm doing a frame off it would be a good time to do so. 2. Weight transfer to back passenger side is good. 3. Cleaning up the engine bay.

I like the idea of it relocated too, I can re-route the battery cables the way I want. I plan to route them pretty close to this idea:


http://i.imgur.com/XXGNSjmh.jpg



And the battery box came from Amazon store. It's a drop box. It's SS and seems well built. Here is the link and some pics:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1



http://i.imgur.com/oRAZ0L1h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XoLuwpHh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/2BxEXYOh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8KcCtE4h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6dmqVssh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/BSPsryzh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uhySyYIh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JkvXAGLh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/fZDO8Wjh.jpg


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TA_C10 11-13-2019 10:16 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Update - Driveshaft and Wiring Harness

Driveshaft is now shortened and all new u-joints installed. I had a local driveline shop do it from a LS shop recommendation. Cost me $220 for all.

http://i.imgur.com/U05nVwoh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZcGOC2Qh.jpg



And I sent back my wire harness to brothers and they swapped it out for me to the classic version. There is quite a bit more in this box. Very nice and I am anxious to get started installing.


http://i.imgur.com/Bx1pTOFh.jpg


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MDPotter 11-14-2019 10:12 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
I'm glad to see that you exchanged your harness for the classic update, you'll be glad you did. Installing mine has been pretty easy.

cornerstone 11-15-2019 11:09 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
That really does look like a well built box plus it's a nice bonus to be cheaper than most. Thanks for the awesome detailed pics. I'm still on the fence about it for my situation. This will be the first truck I've ever had air ride on and I'm thinking, worst case scenario here, would be able to have access to the battery if catastrophic failure were to occur and the truck is flat on the bump stops?

In regard to the rewire, both you and Potter are making me want to keep up with the Jones'. My Uncle bought this truck new and was an electrician by trade so the original harness looks very good, but its still almost half a century old. Then there is always the argument "might as well since I'm this deep in it". I think the best price I've found on the AAW kit is $539., unless you know better?

SCOTI 11-15-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cornerstone (Post 8627447)
That really does look like a well built box plus it's a nice bonus to be cheaper than most. Thanks for the awesome detailed pics. I'm still on the fence about it for my situation. This will be the first truck I've ever had air ride on and I'm thinking, worst case scenario here, would be able to have access to the battery if catastrophic failure were to occur and the truck is flat on the bump stops?

In regard to the rewire, both you and Potter are making me want to keep up with the Jones'. My Uncle bought this truck new and was an electrician by trade so the original harness looks very good, but its still almost half a century old. Then there is always the argument "might as well since I'm this deep in it". I think the best price I've found on the AAW kit is $539., unless you know better?

You want a remote mounted jumper junction block. You find a spot that's easy enough to access for connecting to & put terminals there. Some do small covered boxes w/the POS/NEG terminals tucked in side while others might just tuck them out of sight somewhere while still being partially exposed.

MDPotter 11-15-2019 11:38 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cornerstone (Post 8627447)
That really does look like a well built box plus it's a nice bonus to be cheaper than most. Thanks for the awesome detailed pics. I'm still on the fence about it for my situation. This will be the first truck I've ever had air ride on and I'm thinking, worst case scenario here, would be able to have access to the battery if catastrophic failure were to occur and the truck is flat on the bump stops?

In regard to the rewire, both you and Potter are making me want to keep up with the Jones'. My Uncle bought this truck new and was an electrician by trade so the original harness looks very good, but its still almost half a century old. Then there is always the argument "might as well since I'm this deep in it". I think the best price I've found on the AAW kit is $539., unless you know better?

$539 is the best price I could find, it seems to be price controlled. I bought mine from Summit because they're so fast.

TA_C10 11-15-2019 02:01 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MDPotter (Post 8626861)
I'm glad to see that you exchanged your harness for the classic update, you'll be glad you did. Installing mine has been pretty easy.

Yeah me too, thanks for helping me out with that, I thought I had what I needed before but having the bulkhead is gonna make my life so much easier rather than re-doing my firewall with body work and etc. And yeah cornerstone, it's same price for me too at brotherstrucks.


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Originally Posted by SCOTI (Post 8627455)
You want a remote mounted jumper junction block. You find a spot that's easy enough to access for connecting to & put terminals there. Some do small covered boxes w/the POS/NEG terminals tucked in side while others might just tuck them out of sight somewhere while still being partially exposed.

Ditto. What SCOTI says. I was planning to install mine on the core support where the original battery tray would be. And I was planning on using something like the following:

http://i.imgur.com/YlrxCYYh.jpg


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siggyfreud 11-17-2019 12:11 AM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
I used that on my last build. Seemed like a quality piece too. It was on up the firewall near the passenger side so I could run straight down to the starter. Core support is a good idea to and easier if you need a jump.

TA_C10 11-17-2019 11:31 PM

Re: TA_C10: Stage 1
 
Update - Vintage Air - Front Drive Accessories

Well I spent most the weekend on drugs trying not to get sick, lot's of vitamin c, shots of flonase and 24 hour zyrtec everyday for last 5 days and it worked. I never got real sick just mainly felt like i was gonna be and hardly any energy. So I just cleaned the garage out last couple days and organized all my stuff better. That is a big task let me tell ya, sucked.

So tonight after finishing rest of that, I decided to install my 2010 camaro mid-mount A/C bracket for Sanden 709 compressor from vintage air. Wasn't too hard. Follow instructions and study the diagrams is all there is to it. It's cool how they figured out you buy a certain tensioner pully and swap its pulley for another pulley they provide(VA) and boom, it all works together just right. I mounted the compressor 90 degree left, didn't think I was going to want my a/c lines on the top but maybe I do, we will see how it looks another time, might switch that.

Also installed the LS alt/ps bracket. Cleaned up the alternator and PS pump that came with my engine and installed them too. Starting to look like a complete engine again :thumbs:

Pics for your viewing pleasure:


http://i.imgur.com/KyF2SB4h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/mrb46rEh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/s5Lcohih.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dJ5bWHPh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RIifRmUh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hnWbOlNh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/g74z2zwh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8723V5Dh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tIen8oih.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZWrp1FMh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ZoaPhQTh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/s9eO2qFh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ai5AXjZh.jpg


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TA_C10 11-17-2019 11:41 PM

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I also got my new parking brake cable retainer from GMCPauls! It's the little things like this bracket that I lost that really make a big difference. I think I threw my original one away still clamped to the old cable....

I started by prying the clamp open to get it over the cable.

http://i.imgur.com/LkX42K3h.jpg


Then I took a pair of channel locks and slowly pinched it back down over the cable. Installed the bolt and pin.

http://i.imgur.com/PE6YSE9h.jpg


Then I got back under truck and adjusted the double nuts on the parking brake cables and all done. Works like OE :thumbs:


http://i.imgur.com/g5xzs4uh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dbuLPl7h.jpg

TA_C10 11-17-2019 11:46 PM

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Quick update on my power steering too. So after installing I noticed the PS pump return line looked pretty twisted and bent. Figured I was gonna have to get a new one. Then I figure out if I bent it down just a little more the return line could route right through an existing frame hole! Before it was like 1/2 inch from the frame. Now I can get a hose on it no prob.


http://i.imgur.com/z0sDDzyh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/1ngZrdCh.jpg



This is before I bent it down a bit.


http://i.imgur.com/35iPq69h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ISZ2nNSh.jpg


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TA_C10 11-17-2019 11:47 PM

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And for the 4th post tonight...... I have started wiring :thumbs:


http://i.imgur.com/veA3noMh.jpg

MDPotter 11-18-2019 10:32 AM

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I'm right there with you! Wiring, plumbing, brake cables, etc.

Let us know how the Kwik brackets work out once you have it running - you're probably aware that some of us have had trouble with them squealing.

1971Stepside 11-18-2019 10:57 AM

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Tons of time to do all that. Lookin good. You will be driving her before long.


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