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Awesome progress! I just got those seals (for my stock 350 to np205 adapter) from NAPA but they had to order them, took 2 days. Did you buy the gasket between the 205 and adapter by itself or as part of a kit? I need to find just that one.
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Wow! Mark, what a day. You got way more done than me. I know who is build my 4L60e if it takes a puke. Nice documentation and pictures. I hope to have one of these 4x4 trucks some day. This thread will be a how to step by step.
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Thanks.... I made the gasket... I can not remember where I got the mounts... I will look tomorrow and let you know.. |
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Cutting the coupler was strange.. you could tell when you got to the hard parts of the coupler.... but I finally got it.... |
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Well, I went to Eufaula this morning in search of the elusive transmission to transfer case seals. After working with Michael at Oreilly’s we discovered that the seals are called Transmission output seals. Of course they didn’t have them.. but there were 2 in McAlester.. So off the McAlester I went..
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080003.jpg Thought I would try the new heater this morning.. It really worked well… http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080001.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080002.jpg There is an order you should follow to install the seals. The seals should be installed with the seal lip on each towards the Transmission and Transfer case. First step is to install the seal on the transfer case side of the adapter.. install the seal with the seal lip pointed up towards the transfer case. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080004.jpg Next step is to lube the seal lip and transfer case input shaft O-ring with some white lithium grease and mount the adapter to the transfer case. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080007.jpg This was a good time to try out the shorty wrenches I got from lowes.. they worked great .. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080006.jpg Next install power coupler onto the transfer case input shaft. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080009.jpg After that install the seal on the transmission side of the adapter with seal lip pointed toward the transmission. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080010.jpg Time to mount the Transfer case to the frame. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080011.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080012.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080013.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080014.jpg After that swing the engine and transmission into the frame and bolt it up to the transfer case. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080015.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080016.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080017.jpg Then the progress all came to an end.. again… http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080018.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080018.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080018.jpg The engine has clearance problems with the cross member… Dirty Dingo said this plates would solve all those problems.. Sorry.. they is not a plate made that can solve this.. This will require some fabrication. I thought I would try to move the entire drive train back a inch or so.. so I unbolted the transmission cross member and moved it.. no luck …. We are hitting a different area now.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080023.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080024.jpg Also, both driveshaft’s will have to be modified with the cross member in this location.. So back to the original location.. more pic’s of the problem.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080025.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080026.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080027.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080028.jpg It does look good sitting there… to bad it ain’t right.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080029.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080030.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080031.jpg More pictures of the problem with the Dirty Dingo Sliders removed.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080034.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080035.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080036.jpg Removed the upper part of the engine cross member and still have problems.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080037.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080038.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080043.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080044.jpg Decided to install the transfer case support bushings, new rear brake hose, and new front spring u-bolts.. While I considered my options on the engine mounts. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080032.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080042.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080039.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080040.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080041.jpg This week while I am working on the solution to the engine mounting problem I will start on the wiring harness.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080045.jpg Looks good.. wish it was mounted up.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080048.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1080049.jpg I guess I have a few options.. fab something up myself…, hire someone to fab something up.. or look online for another solution . |
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I thought about that.. I am sure something could be fabed up.. I think thealien is using this, http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/d/101...-29-09+004.jpg http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/d/101...-29-09+006.jpg http://www.pnkages.com/gallery/d/10117-2/DSCN3626.JPG Not for sure.. I will PM him.. |
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Thanks Ed.. I will check it out.. I bought a cab yesterday from a friend.. He done me right.... It will still need some work.. but nothing like the one I have now. |
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Part Number: 3.1106 Product Name: Transmission Mounts (2 Per Set) Quantity: 1 Unit Price: $51.41 > > > Color : Red -------------------------- Part Number: 3.1107 Product Name: GM Transfer Case Torque Mount Bushings Quantity: 1 Unit Price: $16.99 > > > Color : Red -------------------------- |
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Great work! really inspiring me to get to work on my 70 3/4 |
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Started on the wiring.. I kinda got in the dog house.. I decided to bring the harness back to Edmond to work on it in the evenings.. The only place I had to work on it was our game room… The wife wasn’t to happy.. but I have done worse ;)
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090051.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090054.jpg I am old so I printed the wiring schmatics I found on the LS1Tech site on to really large paper… It really has helped with the process. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090055.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090056.jpg After a few minutes trying to figure out how the covers come off… I got started.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090057.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090058.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090059.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090060.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090061.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090062.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090063.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1090064.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1100066.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1100066.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1100067.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1100068.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1100069.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1100070.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1100071.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1100072.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1110073.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1110074.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1110075.jpg I have 5 un-terminated wires coming out of the Park Selector.. I need to do some research on them.. my guess is some of them would have been the neutral safety switch wires.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1110076.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1110077.jpg Tomorrow, I hope to start taping the harness back up, and working on a fuses and relay schematic. |
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I really enjoy working with wiring... I thought about offering a service on converting factory harnesses to stand alone.. But I really need to think about it before I make that commitment. Looks like my cross member will not be here until Monday, so I guess this weekend I will work on installing the gas tank and start on the fuel system. I thought about coming by sometime and working on getting the cab unbolted from the frame.. Would that be ok? |
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Tonight I finished up the harness.. I still need to terminate the wires that will be connected to the truck.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120078.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120079.jpg My harness had the GBCM on it, so I had to modify the harness by re-routing the alternator wires to the PCM. I used the existing alternator harness and soldered them to the correct leads on the PCM. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120080.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120081.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120082.jpg I also decided to re-install the oil pressure switch harness. I have ScanGauge (www.scangauge.com) in my Tundra and plan on using one in the 72. It will provide me all of the gauge data. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120083.jpg Alternator harness back in its proper place http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120084.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120085.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120086.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120087.jpg Next step was to extend the 12V+ power on Run and Start back towards the other wiring. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120088.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1120089.jpg Completed harness http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1130090.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1130091.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1130092.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1130094.jpg Left over wires…. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1130093.jpg Tomorrow I will place an order for the fuse block and relays I need… Also, I will start gathering the parts I need for the fuel system. My new engine cross member will be here Monday, so it will be next weekend before I can get the engine bolted in. I also, purchased a set of trailblazer 5.3L exhaust manifolds from Tanner at B&R Auto Parts in Tulsa. This is the same place that I got my engine, transmission, and other accessories for the build. Tanner has been very helpful in getting me the parts I need. I highly recommend Tanner and B&R Auto Parts. |
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Nice work on the harness Mark! You knocked that out quick. That box with the wires looks familiar:).
Nice score on the Trailblazer manifolds. |
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Nice project, Crash. I am amazed at how much you have done so quickly. Let me know how the sand blasting goes. I am trying to decide between attempting it myself or having it done for me.
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Sand Blasting SUCKS!.. It cost me about $110 in media, and 6 hours of time to get it done. If I had to do it again I would have someone else do it if I could get it done for less than $250.. I have a blaster now, so I would still do the small pieces myself.. |
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Thanks Mike... slowly be surly.. Hope you get a lot done this weekend..:-) |
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Nice work on this project. A lot of good info here.
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Almost finished with the harness. I added a fuse block, and a couple of termination strips. I still need to install 4 relays. Fuel Pump, Fan 1, Fan 2, and I will be adding a relay for the Hot in Run & Start source voltage. I have not decided if I will be using a relay or a switch for the TCC control…
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Worked on the fuel system a little today.. Started with the tank..
Before I bolted it up, I realized that this would be an issue. The rear support on the bed runs right across the area that the bed fits (see bolt holes in picture).. Don’t know if I am the only one that has had this problem, but I will need to come up with a solution. Right now I see two options.. a body lift or move the bed support cross member back towards the back of the bed. (I don't like body lifts.) http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1140101.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1140102.jpg Tank mounted… http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1140106.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1140107.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1140108.jpg Bent some tubing for the supply line of the pump http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1140109.jpg Pump mounted.. will almost.. still need to drill a hole and install another bolt.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1140110.jpg Went to McAlester and picked up some more tubing to complete the fuel system tomorrow… I have the wiring harness completed, should have the fuel system complete tomorrow, need to start thinking about the exhaust system.. I need to go to Tulsa this week to pick up the exhaust manifolds… I will also start gathering the stuff I need for the cooling system. My initial plan was to use a mechanical fan, but I wired the harness to handle electric fans… so I need research and figure out the pros and cons of each. I think I am looking for anything to work on except the body work… ;-) |
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Wow Mark your project is looking great!!! A lot of progress in a short time!!! (and a lot of pics):metal:
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Wow, Mark you are kicking on this build!
That is a really cool looking fuse box. I may steal that idea on my next build. It looks pricey though but high quality. I totally forgot about the tank sticking up high enough to hit the cross brace. I planned to just cut mine and cap it. I may end up moving it. Sorry, I didn't give you the heads up. No dice on the body lift. You do some nice work with the gas lines. I think those hard lines are smart idea. You'll be ready to fire this thing up in no time. Keep the pictures coming. |
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I think most people that use a rear tank end up at least cutting the cross brace. Some cap and some dont. Mine isnt for now but my box is also shot. I have a different one that will be cut and capped before it gets put on.
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Cool build!!! Great work!!!
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Mike, I gave more for the fuse box than I should have. I got it at NAPA, I could have got it off the internet for half of the NAPA cost.. I will know better on the next one. No problem on the cross brace.. I am sure there will be other surprises on this build :-) I have bent a lot of tubing in my life… I am still make mistakes.. don’t look to close or you will see them .. I am shooting for engine start by Feb. 12th.. Need to figure out what I am going to do with the exhaust… Hope you had a good weekend… |
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Thanks.. I will do some research... |
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Thanks Dunenutt... The pictures help... |
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Thanks screamin... good to see another okie on here.... |
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I finished up the fuel system today..
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Yesterday I received the x-member from Pacific Fabrication. This was needed due to the 5.3L not fitting into the factory x-member. I had purchased a set of Dirty Dingo 4x4 sliders that were designed for the application, but they would not work.. I was not so much a problem with the Dirty Dingo Sliders; it was more a problem with the 5.3L being too wide for the factory x-member. Brent with Dirty Dingo believes I may have a 6 cyl. X-member. Brent with Dirty Dingo has personally seen several installs using their sliders with no issues. However, in my case the Dirty Dingo 4x4 sliders would not work. I have offered to help him determine why they would not work in my application and we will share that information as soon as we have it. If anyone knows the difference between the 6cyl. and V8 x-members please let me know.
So, back to the new x-member from Pacific Fabrication. I will be doing a complete write up after I have installed the x-member. For now, all I can say is that the x-member arrived at my house in perfect condition. All the pieces were wrapped in corrugated cardboard. The x-member appears to be powder coated with a very nice black finish. All the bolts were quality grade 8 bolts. The welds looked very nice and the clam shell motor mounts look like a high end piece. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160126.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160127.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160128.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160129.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160130.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160131.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160132.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160133.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P1160134.jpg Once again If anyone knows the difference between the 6cyl. and V8 x-members please let me know. |
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