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884x4Sub 12-03-2009 06:23 PM

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very cool project....Im staying tuned for sure......I have a genuine '99 Winston Cup car that Im going to put a 69 Chevelle body on and make it into a roadcourse trackday car and eventually make it quasi street legal.....I can relate to all the measurements and planning your doing......One question....will you register it as a '52 Sub?

BBEEP 12-04-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 884x4Sub (Post 3653644)
One question....will you register it as a '52 Sub?

Oh yeah, still registered as a 52!;)

Sub-versive 12-04-2009 01:59 AM

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Ah Lawd this will be a sweet build!:metal::metal:
Subscribed.

Any more pics? :D

Cautrell05 12-04-2009 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BBEEP (Post 3653362)
Mr. Tucker,
What good does you comment do for this thread. If you want to know why he chose an Envoy then ask why did you choose an Envoy. Your comment in my opinion is trolling and can be done without.

THANKS BRITNJC. Mr. Tucker: 1st, the Envoy is IMO the next level from the S10 conversion. The wheelbase and chassis should fit well. The '300hp' is an upgrade from the 270 cu splasher I6 my GMC had in it originally, and there are lots of upgrades I can purchase for a late model motor. Handling? never expected my truck to be a sportscar, why would you? And who goes fourwheelin in an SUV, DIDN'T YOU SEE THE MUD? AND if I wanted something to handle and have lots of power, I'd buy a new Camaro or Corvette. Or I'd go for a drive in the 2008 TBSS I already own!! (and probably get smoked by a grandma in a new Camaro) (OH, and its spelled rIdiculous)

Thought I would chime in on this one as I see one angle that no one has mentioned. Whats the curb weight on a stock envoy. Not the gvw on the door tag but if you roll it across a scale what does it weigh in at. How much does it weigh now after the cutting. Im willing to bet that even after putting the 52 body back on and full interior its several hundred pounds lighter than stock. And because alot of that weight is up high its going to corner better. Both of those are going to make it faster and handle better without trying.

The 02+ t chassis used on the trailblazers and envoys is so much better than the s-10. Way better front end geometry, rack and pinion steering, better brakes. Im on my second traiblazer now and my only complaint on this one is that it has 3.42 gears. Extended trailblazers with 3.42s are kinda poochy on 60 mph hilly roads. Other than that im looking forward to seeing how this one turns out.

Nick

BBEEP 12-04-2009 10:51 AM

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Thanks Nick. If I end up bringing the Envoy chassis home for the few weeks the Burb is in the dipshop, I'll run it across the scale. Didn't weigh the Burb before I dismantled it, but I have my 48 Panel with a big block 700r I could compare it to. Also, if there is room I will channel the body a little, then do some lowering with aftermarket parts.
My bodyman has done an S-10 conversion, & he would most definitely agree with you. He says they are actually a little narrow to be premium.

OKGMC4 12-04-2009 03:58 PM

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Makes me wonder if the Canyon/ Colorado would make a decent alternative to S10 chassis swaps. They are on the same platform as the trailblazer and also have rack and pinion steering.

I know it will tick people off but the 05 and newer Frontier has a fully boxed frame, 4 wheel disc, rack steering, and a 260hp V6 that can run with quite a few V8's...so it would also make an interesting choice as well.

BlueJeep 12-04-2009 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by OKGMC4 (Post 3655239)
Makes me wonder if the Canyon/ Colorado would make a decent alternative to S10 chassis swaps. They are on the same platform as the trailblazer and also have rack and pinion steering.

I know it will tick people off but the 05 and newer Frontier has a fully boxed frame, 4 wheel disc, rack steering, and a 260hp V6 that can run with quite a few V8's...so it would also make an interesting choice as well.

Both may make good donors, but aren't nearly as cheap and easy to find. IMHO, this is what makes the s10 swaps so popular.

Cautrell05 12-04-2009 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by OKGMC4 (Post 3655239)
Makes me wonder if the Canyon/ Colorado would make a decent alternative to S10 chassis swaps. They are on the same platform as the trailblazer and also have rack and pinion steering.

I know it will tick people off but the 05 and newer Frontier has a fully boxed frame, 4 wheel disc, rack steering, and a 260hp V6 that can run with quite a few V8's...so it would also make an interesting choice as well.

Sorry man. The colorado chassis is a completely different isuzu chassis and in my opinion is junk. Yea its got rack and pinion but the front end geometry is horrible and the rest is not much better. Sorry. I just despise them.

Nick

BBEEP 12-04-2009 06:44 PM

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I guess mine is the guinea pig! Of course I used the Envoy because I wanted to use the floor, and the way the seats bolt in. Also, it had to be GMC to GMC ;)

Boomerswany 12-04-2009 06:54 PM

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BB,

IDC what you used or why, just glad your trying something cool! :metal:

T Hilde 12-04-2009 10:20 PM

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Bummer, I was hoping for more pics. Looks like a fun build!

Restrorob 12-09-2009 01:39 PM

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Was just passing by from the 73/87 section and stuck my head in, WOW what a project !!!

Couldn't help but to subscribe for the ride..... :metal:

cajundragger 12-10-2009 12:55 AM

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yeah that I-6 motor is a dog. doesnt have any potential.


ghettoluxury 12-19-2009 12:28 PM

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Any updates on this awsome project?

BBEEP 12-22-2009 02:29 PM

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Just bought a bare firewall from an 04 Trailblazer. Will use it to create a pattern for the permanent Envoy firewall. The hardest part of the build is to get the measurements correct the first time! Will post pics of the fun after New Years.

Jonboy 12-23-2009 10:39 PM

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Hey, while you are posting pics, can you throw some up of the Impala wagon? This is going to be a cool build, I dig the bus, too.

BBEEP 12-24-2009 01:39 AM

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Hey, while you are posting pics, can you throw some up of the Impala wagon? This is going to be a cool build, I dig the bus, too.

61 Impala Wagon. LT1, 4L60E, leather, a/c, airride, dechromed, dropped two taillights

Jonboy 12-24-2009 11:11 AM

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That wagon is awesome. I had a 61 Impala in college (3 actually), and have loved them ever since. Beautiful, and a wagon, to boot.

NONHOG 12-24-2009 12:38 PM

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Dropped 2 tailights ? Before pics ?
Oh and DAHUMM !

BBEEP 12-24-2009 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by NONHOG (Post 3691243)
Dropped 2 tailights ? Before pics ?
Oh and DAHUMM !

Yup, Impalas had 3 on each side, used a Brookwood tailgate--so lost two. Oh and THAHUNKS!

entourageguy 12-24-2009 05:24 PM

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Nice ride .................

BBEEP 01-02-2010 11:12 PM

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Decided it would be easier to practice cutting on a scrap firewall first. We'll make a template first before we cut the firewall on the Envoy that has wiring, master cylinder, a/c, etc. Should all this work out, I will save the template in case there are others on here who would like a template for future builds.

BBEEP 01-05-2010 05:40 PM

Firewall fits!!
 
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Firewall fits pretty good, floor level good. I won't be able to use the cowl vent, but I have front & rear a/c. I will have to use an aftermarket wiper unit of some sort.

NONHOG 01-05-2010 06:10 PM

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Dang I wish I could see that going on in person. :thumbs:

BBEEP 01-05-2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by NONHOG (Post 3712608)
Dang I wish I could see that going on in person. :thumbs:

You are what, 3.5 hrs away? I'll let you know when I need help placing the 52 body onto the Envoy!:lol:

The 52 body & sheet metal go to the 'dipshop' next week!

NONHOG 01-05-2010 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BBEEP (Post 3712673)
You are what, 3.5 hrs away? I'll let you know when I need help placing the 52 body onto the Envoy!:lol:

The 52 body & sheet metal go to the 'dipshop' next week!

3.5 ! I wish ! It takes about 3 hours to get to West Linn were my son lives.
How far from West Linn ?

I recall some 20 or so years ago acid dipping a 66 Chevelle body lying awake at night thinking to myself I just spent $1300.00 dollars on acid dipping !
Which at that time was more than I had ever spent on a car :lol:

Thanks for the thread ! lots of fun.
Who knows West Linn to Eugene....... possible ?

49ZR2 01-05-2010 07:38 PM

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Very cool build! Guys like you inspire guys like me to just go out and cut stuff apart and hope we can figure out how to get it back together. Thanks

67chevy2wd 01-05-2010 07:47 PM

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very cool.

crazycory1 01-05-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BBEEP (Post 3712555)
Firewall fits pretty good, floor level good. I won't be able to use the cowl vent, but I have front & rear a/c. I will have to use an aftermarket wiper unit of some sort.

How far into the body mounts are you? Will the frame fit between the rocker panels / inner cowl area?

jmedero 01-05-2010 09:56 PM

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What did you do with the envoy body parts?

63chevyll 01-05-2010 10:14 PM

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great job, Very inspirational

BBEEP 01-05-2010 11:53 PM

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How far into the body mounts are you? Will the frame fit between the rocker panels / inner cowl area? The rear body mounts are no problem. It looks like the front ones we'll have to modify slightly. I will post when we get there. The rockers/inner cowl fitment with the frame is NO problem at all. The rear inner wheel house appears to be in EXACTLY the same place.

What did you do with the envoy body parts? D&L Trucks parts in Junction City, Or sold me the Envoy without the sheet metal that unbolts. I volunteered to return the quarters, top, etc. They treated me right on the rest of it, figured it was the least I could do.

nickp51chevy 01-05-2010 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BBEEP (Post 3706844)
I will save the template in case there are others on here who would like a template for future builds.

I wouldn't mind getting a copy of your template some day. I wouldn't want it any time soon though.


And; Damn! That looks real good. Nice fit. I can't wait to see the body on there. Keep those pix comin :metal:

BBEEP 01-06-2010 12:06 AM

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My wife and family are from Arlington. So of course, no problem! May even deliver!

crawdadfox 01-07-2010 10:50 AM

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Wow! Its refreshing to see a real build that thinks outside the box instead of the ol' "bag and drag" build!! I'm looking forward to seeing your progress!:metal:

Bigblue29 01-07-2010 06:13 PM

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If I was 3.5 hrs away from you I would for sure come help put the body back on! Again I say, Way cool project. Keep it up!

OrrieG 02-22-2010 03:25 PM

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Progress Report???

xJoey Dubsx 02-22-2010 04:27 PM

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definately a sick build i can't wait to see more on! Keep up the good work!

BBEEP 03-02-2010 02:46 AM

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Progress! Off to the dip shop!!

ghettoluxury 03-02-2010 08:13 AM

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all right glad to see this project back on top


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