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Wasted Income 09-29-2012 10:33 PM

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Ordered my WideRide yesterday....can't wait!! Thanks for letting me pick your brain, and providing honest advice instead of simply trying to upsell me on brakes, Rob. :c2:

higXtech 10-01-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by robnolimit (Post 5616320)
The rear rail kits should be ready to go just befor SEMA, at the end of October. Here's how it's going to be packaged.

1) Rail Kit. This will have the rails, crossmembers, gussets and all of the hardware. Also this includes the bed stands. This is a 4" raised rail to fit a shortbed box. The bed floor must be raised 4" to clear. Appx price $1175

Now, you need some suspension parts. Build your own or choose parts from us.
Trailing Arm use your OE arms and rear axle, and top it off with a selection from the following:

2) Upper Coil Spring - or - Air Bag Mounts This upper mount kit bolts to the new rails. You can use OE type coils, or a 9000 series slider bag. Coil springs can be 0" to 3" drop. We recomend a 2" block kit first, (remember that the rails drop the truck 4" to start) then additional spring drop if needed. The bag set up is a 3" drop at Ride Hieght. Appx kit price $95

3) Pro Panhard Rod This kit includes a long, low mounted adjustable panhard rod and hardware. Also, the spacer and mount plate include the lower sway bar mounts. This is designed to use our 'High mount bar' or a splined torsion bar. List $219

4) Shock mounts This is a version of our rear-outboard C10 shock mount kit. This includes upper and lower mounts and all of the hardware. List $149

Go to Coil-Over Socks
5) Coil-Over kit This kit includes upper and lower mounts, hardware, billit Romic single adjustable coil-overs with 225 lb springs. Your choice of shock and spring length, 6", 5", or 4" stroke shocks. These will add 2", 3", or 4" of additional drop (from the 4" rail). We suggest using the longest shock you can, and getting additional drop from a block kit. List price $635

6) Rear Sway Bar This is our new High mount rear bar. 1 1/8" solid. It will work with coils, bags or coil-overs. Includes bar, urathane mounts, links and hardware. List price $239

I WANT A 4 BAR
No problem, skip all that and add a FatBar 4-bar kit. This includes everything needed. Chassis mounts, housing mounts, bars, adjusters, bushings, panhard bar and mounts, all hardware, and your choice of coil-overs or bags/shocks. The suspension will drop the truck another 4" (8" total) at ride hieght. Appx 1 1/2" adjustment up/down. Air drop total is 13" from stock. Appx price $1175

TOO EASY Yes, it will be! All of the mount points, and holes are already in the rails. What ever you pick, it's an easy install.

What about the bed floor? No, we didn't leave you hangin. We will have a 6 piece riser kit coming soon. This will make raising the floor a one day task. And, give your truck a professional finish.

What about a gas tank? This rail shape is different than the normal C10. We have already put mounting holes in the rear two crossmembers for a fuel tank. This will be a new design tank built for the C10 Rail Kit. the 19 gallon tanks will not hang below the body at all, as we can raise them 4" under the floor. Standard Fuel Tank $459, Tank with EFI pump installed, $775

Now it's up to YOU Now you can build the truck of your dreams, in your own garage.


I cant wait to see this!

robnolimit 10-02-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasted Income (Post 5620189)
Ordered my WideRide yesterday....can't wait!! Thanks for letting me pick your brain, and providing honest advice instead of simply trying to upsell me on brakes, Rob. :c2:

Thanks for the order. It's on it's way, shipped mon. No problem for the info. BTW, I'll sell you anything you want, the more the better, But I do want you you to end up with the parts that do what your lookin for. - not just because of a high$$ add campaign. Let me know how it goes for ya.

duallyjams 10-03-2012 07:49 AM

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I know you have new stuff coming any photos you can share.

robnolimit 10-04-2012 06:39 PM

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This is an overview of the rear clip. We did a lot of fitment work to be able to use existing C10 components, making the rail kit more adaptable. Our first testing will be with stock arms and coils. These coils are a 3" drop, for a total of 7" from stock (3" from the springs, and 4" from the rails). Some of the panhard mounts and shock mounts are the same as outparts for stock C10 rails. The coil/bag mount is designed to use a stock spring or a 9000 series slider bag. BTW, we did flip the front TRA mount

robnolimit 10-04-2012 06:40 PM

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The sway bar is our new JTR-1 rear bar for C10's. The mounting for the new rail is a bit different than on a stock rail. At the trailing arm, the same link mount plates are used. We also fitted up a CPP low mount swaybar, and it will work fine if you already have one. Last pict is a teaser, this is the front bed rail of the upcoming raised floor kit.

higXtech 10-04-2012 07:06 PM

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nice. cant wait to see how the raised bedfloor will come together.

higXtech 10-19-2012 07:16 PM

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I got to see this in person today. :c2:

It was nice meeting and chatting with you guys. Have a great SEMA.

--Aaron

robnolimit 10-19-2012 09:36 PM

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Nice to meet yo Aaron. Have a great vacation. Talk to you soon. Rob

softballnrd27 10-24-2012 08:54 AM

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Will you be making a trailing arm conversion kit for 73-87 C10s?

softballnrd27 10-24-2012 08:55 AM

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Also, what is the weight savings over stock suspension?

softballnrd27 10-24-2012 10:25 AM

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One more question, are the coil-overs single or double adjustable?

Wasted Income 10-24-2012 10:39 AM

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Rob has said that the WideRide is ~100 lb less than the stock IFS setup.

The coilovers are single adjustables from Romic.

robnolimit 10-24-2012 11:46 AM

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Thanks W.I. We are looking at the 73-87 for a trailing arm rear, but....., It only has a 50/50 chance. While a trailing arm is a great suspension choice, it needs to be in the correct platform. Wide chassis, and or high-rail chassis work well for TRA set ups. The goal is to get the arms out wide on the axle, taking the load off of the axle tube and providing a wide suspension base. Narrow, low rail chassis, like the OE 73-87, make this difficult, and with a stock rail, a 4-bar may be a better choice. If we do build a TRA package for the 73-87. it would be based around a new high-rail frame section.

softballnrd27 10-24-2012 12:29 PM

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Would you recommend your wide IFS for a street/strip set-up? I think the weight savings is almost worth the extra $$$. Shooting for 10secs with daily drivabilty and comfort. Would it be too hard to set-up corner carving and still have the ability to hook at the track?

robnolimit 10-24-2012 04:45 PM

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Strip set up is easy. for street driving you wil have 16 to 18 clicks of rebound in the front shocks. At the strip, reach down and take ALL of the rebound out of the shocks, 0 clicks, then run it. normally, 100 lbs = .1 sec. but, 100 lbs off the front of a truck = .2 sec. Then, if the R rear tire isn't biting hard enough, un-hook one sway bar link in front.

Wasted Income 10-25-2012 09:53 AM

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Good info. Rob...on these shocks which way is "0 Clicks"? Fully clockwise, or CCW?

robnolimit 10-25-2012 10:53 AM

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counter clockwise 'loosens' or moves toward th '0' setting. - just like bolts & nuts, "Righty-Tighty, Lefty-Loosey" ;)

chapster 11-05-2012 08:32 PM

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Hey Rob,

Any more details/install pics on the rear frame kick and raised floor kit?

Cheers..

robnolimit 11-06-2012 12:46 PM

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Should have more info in a week or so. Good news at SEMA, Our parts will soon be avail through a major speed parts retailer. Can't say who yet, but this will cut shipping time and cost. I'll keep you posted.

chapster 11-06-2012 08:24 PM

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That sounds awesome Rob,

You already do a great job on turn around time. looking forward to seeing more details in the future.

prostreet1967 11-06-2012 10:09 PM

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hey rob is there any pics of where the stock frame and new rails come together. im currently dealing with a bad back half job on my SWB. was wondering if this might solve my problem. frame is currently a SWB that has been cut pretty much where the back of the cab is.

duallyjams 12-22-2012 09:48 AM

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Sema is over now it's time to update this thread how about some pics of your fat bar set up for the 63-72 C10.

moregrip 01-20-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by robnolimit (Post 5629300)
The sway bar is our new JTR-1 rear bar for C10's. The mounting for the new rail is a bit different than on a stock rail. At the trailing arm, the same link mount plates are used. We also fitted up a CPP low mount swaybar, and it will work fine if you already have one. Last pict is a teaser, this is the front bed rail of the upcoming raised floor kit.

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...1&d=1349390320

if I were starting from a clean sheet of paper and wanted to turn my 1973 longbed into a shortbed, could I use this kit? I understand it was engineered for the 67-72 frames.......but:devil:

robnolimit 01-20-2013 02:07 PM

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Yes, you could. We do have our Fat-Bar rear suspension fitted up. What we don't have is a bed mount kit that is specific to the 73-87 short box, so some fab work may be required.

moregrip 01-20-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by robnolimit (Post 5830455)
Yes, you could. We do have our Fat-Bar rear suspension fitted up. What we don't have is a bed mount kit that is specific to the 73-87 short box, so some fab work may be required.

That's the answer I was hoping for. It may still be easier to cut/weld the stock frame but really I'm just trading one type of fab work for another. Also trying to use what I have on hand as a cost saver. I have a late model set (99-07) Hotchkis 4" lowering leaf springs I'm thinking I could mount close too or inline with the frame (to fit big tire) flip kit style. The raised rails would probably work well here.

moregrip 01-20-2013 02:21 PM

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also, those raised rails would come in handy (thinking) with the tall diff pumkin the GM 14 bolt 10.5" FF rear axle has and the amount of suspension drop I'd like to have, as I'm staying 8lug.

68GMCCustom 01-26-2013 10:39 PM

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Not sure how I missed this. And its what I was wanting to boot!

Dang it Rob.....I can see you taking a bunch (well that's a relative term) of my money in the months ahead! :lol:

Dewey Clines 02-02-2013 02:16 PM

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Dewey Clines 02-02-2013 02:27 PM

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I have a 65 GMC Suburban with coils front and leafs rear. I also have a 1988 C20 Suburban that I bought for the 454 drive train. I see a lot of information about frame swaps but it always stops at 87 not 88. My question is can I shorten the 88 frame and put it under my 65 and what would you recommend for spindles to get to 5 bolt disc front and rear. The 88 has the same coil front and leaf rear configuration but with discs already on th front but 8 bolt pattern. I've asked on several sites but they all want to talk about DMV problems (I have clear titleson both so no problem) rather than how to do it. Any help would be great.
Thanks
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68GMCCustom 02-03-2013 05:14 PM

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An '88 Suburban is the same "basically" as a '87. They continued on in that configuration until '91 I believe, as did the Blazer's.
years were '73-'87 for the trucks... but '73-'91 for the Subs and K5's IIRC.

robnolimit 02-21-2013 01:30 PM

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Here are some more picts of the new rear rail kit. These parts are now ready to ship.
We decided to package them in a "Base +" format, to help allow for a variety of install options, without forcing a lot of spare parts on the customer. This way you can get just the parts you want/need.

The base rail kit includes the two main rails, three crossmembers, three sets of bed mount stands, Internal overlay plates, Grade-8 hardware package, and instructions. The list price is set at $1145. + shipping (expect $150 +).

Trailing arm package. This includes the upper coil/bag mounts, out-board shock mounts (no shocks) and Panhard rod kit. List $395. + shipping

We have a new Heavy Duty low profile trailing arm crossmember with raised pivit mounts. It is 1/4" steel, and has exhaust ports and a raised driveshaft loop. This bolts in to stock holes. List $249 + shipping.

Fat Bar 4-bar kit - Basic, Designed to use 5" stroke (12" - 17") coil-overs. This is shown in the picts. No coil-overs $599 + shipping

Add billit coil-overs with springs, 12", 200 lb. + $445

Add RideTech Shockwave single adjustable 8000 series, + $825

Fat Bar 4-bar with bag and shock, complete, includes Firestone 8000 series slider bags and Doetch nitro shocks List $ 1189 + shipping

robnolimit 02-21-2013 01:36 PM

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Some more info. The rail kit is designed to be a full bolt on. The are over fifty - 50, grade-8 bolts in the package. It is the instalers choice to weld or not. The new rails are stronger than the OE when bolted. Welding will add to the strength and ridgidity of the chassis, just as welding up the OE chassis. Your choice. If you decide to weld, make sure the chassis is square and level when you do.

moregrip 02-22-2013 01:41 AM

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Awesome! Couple of questions.....67-72 SWB is somewhat shorter than 73-87 SWB......would I leave my 73 frame that amount longer? Would there be a difference in frame height at that difference? i.e. where the rear rail kit would bolt up? Other than bed mounts what else might I be up against? I understand there may not be solid answers but any info will help! Thanks!
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robnolimit 02-22-2013 12:45 PM

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As far as I know the frame rail hieght is the same, at 6" OD. I really don't know the difference in lengths, or rear axle CL. If you were to use our 4-bar, I would start by lining up the axle CL, then adjust the rail placement from there, possibly needing to add on to the rear bed mount.

robnolimit 02-22-2013 01:17 PM

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here are some more picts showing the tank installed, the big brakes and the bed sitting on. The tank is 19 gal, and sits up into the cavity created by the raised floor. The bottom of the tank is just above the lower bed side.

higXtech 02-23-2013 07:05 PM

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:ito: oh man... how do i add the big brake kit to my tab?

'72customdeluxe 04-01-2013 08:06 AM

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Sorry if I missed it (did my best searching), but do you have more info on this sway bar? http://www.nolimitparts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SB-190 Any installed pics and mounting/size info? I like the over the frame rear bar, but have another companies panhard/shock re locator kit which i'm keeping for now at least. I have no mounting provisions for the axle side end links on the over frame bar currently. Thanks.
-Andrew Kitchens

68GMCCustom 04-01-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by higXtech (Post 5908106)
:ito: oh man... how do i add the big brake kit to my tab?


tab? we can run a tab? then I'll take one of everything! :devil:


:lol:

gofastnut 04-13-2013 07:42 PM

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Oh man.....I am SO GLAD my wife just started a new job!!


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