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Ordered my WideRide yesterday....can't wait!! Thanks for letting me pick your brain, and providing honest advice instead of simply trying to upsell me on brakes, Rob. :c2:
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I know you have new stuff coming any photos you can share.
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This is an overview of the rear clip. We did a lot of fitment work to be able to use existing C10 components, making the rail kit more adaptable. Our first testing will be with stock arms and coils. These coils are a 3" drop, for a total of 7" from stock (3" from the springs, and 4" from the rails). Some of the panhard mounts and shock mounts are the same as outparts for stock C10 rails. The coil/bag mount is designed to use a stock spring or a 9000 series slider bag. BTW, we did flip the front TRA mount
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The sway bar is our new JTR-1 rear bar for C10's. The mounting for the new rail is a bit different than on a stock rail. At the trailing arm, the same link mount plates are used. We also fitted up a CPP low mount swaybar, and it will work fine if you already have one. Last pict is a teaser, this is the front bed rail of the upcoming raised floor kit.
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nice. cant wait to see how the raised bedfloor will come together.
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I got to see this in person today. :c2:
It was nice meeting and chatting with you guys. Have a great SEMA. --Aaron |
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Nice to meet yo Aaron. Have a great vacation. Talk to you soon. Rob
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Will you be making a trailing arm conversion kit for 73-87 C10s?
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Also, what is the weight savings over stock suspension?
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One more question, are the coil-overs single or double adjustable?
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Rob has said that the WideRide is ~100 lb less than the stock IFS setup.
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Thanks W.I. We are looking at the 73-87 for a trailing arm rear, but....., It only has a 50/50 chance. While a trailing arm is a great suspension choice, it needs to be in the correct platform. Wide chassis, and or high-rail chassis work well for TRA set ups. The goal is to get the arms out wide on the axle, taking the load off of the axle tube and providing a wide suspension base. Narrow, low rail chassis, like the OE 73-87, make this difficult, and with a stock rail, a 4-bar may be a better choice. If we do build a TRA package for the 73-87. it would be based around a new high-rail frame section.
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Would you recommend your wide IFS for a street/strip set-up? I think the weight savings is almost worth the extra $$$. Shooting for 10secs with daily drivabilty and comfort. Would it be too hard to set-up corner carving and still have the ability to hook at the track?
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Strip set up is easy. for street driving you wil have 16 to 18 clicks of rebound in the front shocks. At the strip, reach down and take ALL of the rebound out of the shocks, 0 clicks, then run it. normally, 100 lbs = .1 sec. but, 100 lbs off the front of a truck = .2 sec. Then, if the R rear tire isn't biting hard enough, un-hook one sway bar link in front.
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Good info. Rob...on these shocks which way is "0 Clicks"? Fully clockwise, or CCW?
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counter clockwise 'loosens' or moves toward th '0' setting. - just like bolts & nuts, "Righty-Tighty, Lefty-Loosey" ;)
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Hey Rob,
Any more details/install pics on the rear frame kick and raised floor kit? Cheers.. |
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Should have more info in a week or so. Good news at SEMA, Our parts will soon be avail through a major speed parts retailer. Can't say who yet, but this will cut shipping time and cost. I'll keep you posted.
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That sounds awesome Rob,
You already do a great job on turn around time. looking forward to seeing more details in the future. |
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hey rob is there any pics of where the stock frame and new rails come together. im currently dealing with a bad back half job on my SWB. was wondering if this might solve my problem. frame is currently a SWB that has been cut pretty much where the back of the cab is.
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Sema is over now it's time to update this thread how about some pics of your fat bar set up for the 63-72 C10.
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if I were starting from a clean sheet of paper and wanted to turn my 1973 longbed into a shortbed, could I use this kit? I understand it was engineered for the 67-72 frames.......but:devil: |
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Yes, you could. We do have our Fat-Bar rear suspension fitted up. What we don't have is a bed mount kit that is specific to the 73-87 short box, so some fab work may be required.
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also, those raised rails would come in handy (thinking) with the tall diff pumkin the GM 14 bolt 10.5" FF rear axle has and the amount of suspension drop I'd like to have, as I'm staying 8lug.
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Not sure how I missed this. And its what I was wanting to boot!
Dang it Rob.....I can see you taking a bunch (well that's a relative term) of my money in the months ahead! :lol: |
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I have a 65 GMC Suburban with coils front and leafs rear. I also have a 1988 C20 Suburban that I bought for the 454 drive train. I see a lot of information about frame swaps but it always stops at 87 not 88. My question is can I shorten the 88 frame and put it under my 65 and what would you recommend for spindles to get to 5 bolt disc front and rear. The 88 has the same coil front and leaf rear configuration but with discs already on th front but 8 bolt pattern. I've asked on several sites but they all want to talk about DMV problems (I have clear titleson both so no problem) rather than how to do it. Any help would be great.
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An '88 Suburban is the same "basically" as a '87. They continued on in that configuration until '91 I believe, as did the Blazer's.
years were '73-'87 for the trucks... but '73-'91 for the Subs and K5's IIRC. |
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Here are some more picts of the new rear rail kit. These parts are now ready to ship.
We decided to package them in a "Base +" format, to help allow for a variety of install options, without forcing a lot of spare parts on the customer. This way you can get just the parts you want/need. The base rail kit includes the two main rails, three crossmembers, three sets of bed mount stands, Internal overlay plates, Grade-8 hardware package, and instructions. The list price is set at $1145. + shipping (expect $150 +). Trailing arm package. This includes the upper coil/bag mounts, out-board shock mounts (no shocks) and Panhard rod kit. List $395. + shipping We have a new Heavy Duty low profile trailing arm crossmember with raised pivit mounts. It is 1/4" steel, and has exhaust ports and a raised driveshaft loop. This bolts in to stock holes. List $249 + shipping. Fat Bar 4-bar kit - Basic, Designed to use 5" stroke (12" - 17") coil-overs. This is shown in the picts. No coil-overs $599 + shipping Add billit coil-overs with springs, 12", 200 lb. + $445 Add RideTech Shockwave single adjustable 8000 series, + $825 Fat Bar 4-bar with bag and shock, complete, includes Firestone 8000 series slider bags and Doetch nitro shocks List $ 1189 + shipping |
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Some more info. The rail kit is designed to be a full bolt on. The are over fifty - 50, grade-8 bolts in the package. It is the instalers choice to weld or not. The new rails are stronger than the OE when bolted. Welding will add to the strength and ridgidity of the chassis, just as welding up the OE chassis. Your choice. If you decide to weld, make sure the chassis is square and level when you do.
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Awesome! Couple of questions.....67-72 SWB is somewhat shorter than 73-87 SWB......would I leave my 73 frame that amount longer? Would there be a difference in frame height at that difference? i.e. where the rear rail kit would bolt up? Other than bed mounts what else might I be up against? I understand there may not be solid answers but any info will help! Thanks!
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As far as I know the frame rail hieght is the same, at 6" OD. I really don't know the difference in lengths, or rear axle CL. If you were to use our 4-bar, I would start by lining up the axle CL, then adjust the rail placement from there, possibly needing to add on to the rear bed mount.
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here are some more picts showing the tank installed, the big brakes and the bed sitting on. The tank is 19 gal, and sits up into the cavity created by the raised floor. The bottom of the tank is just above the lower bed side.
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:ito: oh man... how do i add the big brake kit to my tab?
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Sorry if I missed it (did my best searching), but do you have more info on this sway bar? http://www.nolimitparts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=SB-190 Any installed pics and mounting/size info? I like the over the frame rear bar, but have another companies panhard/shock re locator kit which i'm keeping for now at least. I have no mounting provisions for the axle side end links on the over frame bar currently. Thanks.
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tab? we can run a tab? then I'll take one of everything! :devil: :lol: |
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Oh man.....I am SO GLAD my wife just started a new job!!
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