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Little big tractor. That'll dig! Great tractor

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Hoyt-Clagwell and tough to find parts for since the partners split up, Sam just explained it to Oliver last night ;)

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Here's one that I put together over 20 years ago. Has the 60HP flathead with stainless steel water jackets in it to keep the hood and tractor the same length as original, also has the high and low range transmission in it.

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I have allways wanted to do one of those.
How do SS jackets keep the hood and WB the same?
I thought all you had to do was raise the cowel and tank.

What is top speed with the Sherman?

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You did a mighty fine job with that. Looks as built the way you did it.

Now this is a tractor, even though I'm not sure when the term tractor came about. Most steam powered were just called steam engines because they were used for stationary power as much as for pulling

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Finally remembered to grab some pictures
First model 'M' serial number #10001 and first model year 1949 MC, #10895

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Thats so cool!

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Nice. On many older Deere models you can pay an individual to go to the archives and look up when the tractor was made and wich dealer it was sent to.

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The only way to get info from the archives is to purchase a serial number research through the Two-Cylinder Club, not from one particular individual. They are extremely backed up at the moment and it can take several months to get this information. The M and MC are on display at the Dubuque factory.

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anyone recognize this make and model?

https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/kvlsm6...djoxa9beg&dl=0

https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0rsonr...5bwoeiizp&dl=0

https://dl.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9sour7...lxs99cckn&dl=0

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Looks like a Massey Harris 22

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1974 Deere 4430 for $26k? Seems pricey but I'm not up to date on the used tractor market. Link HERE

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Thats still a lot of tractor, maybe the higher end of the average right now just based on this site.
https://www.tractorhouse.com/listing...-tractors/1109

Always have to remind myself that the Sound-Gard tractors are 50 years old already, lots of them still in use. Same with the New Generation tractors that replaced the two cylinders are getting into their 60's now. When the Two-Cylinder club was formed in the 80s the last of the two cylinder tractors were only about 25 years old and the first 1929 model 'D's were only a few years older than this 4430 is today. To me the tractors always seemed to look newer or more modern/advanced than the trucks of the same era when placed side by side.

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model 20 maybe but has less cross bars in the grill

friend looking for some info on his restoration project

I poured through several pages but couldn't match it exactly

showed him from tractordata site where serial plate is

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I dont know. It does have features of a Massey as was pointed out, but I cant find any images of that 3D grill.

The exhaust manifold looks broken and the engine is likley full of water.

I will see if the old dude that runs the tractor junk yard has an email I can send a pick to.

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I think you're right, closest I can find is a model 20. I found this auction listing, while the grille has more bars the rest of it seems to be a match. The other lines on the grille all match a MH.
https://www.bigiron.com/Lots/1946-19...withBellyMower

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thank y'all for your help, much appreciated!

I'm hoping the serial plate will still be there and have something useful left on it

interesting how many pictures of so many massey harris models but that one LoL

I'm sure they'll be needing just about everything for it so hopefully a model with some parts availability

either way they're resourceful, same owner built a hawk-amino, stude hawk front end on an el camino

thanks again!

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Anyone here familiar with Keystone Tractor & Truck Museum in Colonial Heights, VA? I had a slew of pictures from a when my friend and I went a few years ago in February. Lost when my last computer died. These are some pictures I grabbed off the internet. The best part about going in Feb was I got the grand personal tour with the curator who knew everything about everything there. My friend is too hyper for that and he blaster off after constantly interrupting the guy giving us this great information. Seeya! We both were glad as he buzzed off. This was not the time to be impressing someone with what you know. I was all ears......................AND EYES!!

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Yes I was there about 7-8 years ago. Here are a few of the pictures I have from there.

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holy smokes!

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Glad you got there. I was amazed and that was 5-6 or more years ago. Since then they added on and built a restoration shop. I'm itchin' to get back down there. Museums are a great winter activity
In credible antique trucks, too! I have more pictures but this morning I can't find which folder they're in? :lol:

In September our local steam & gas engine club holds their annual show. It's a great show.

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More from that show

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From Graceland

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thanks for all the pictures!

looks like I need to get out more, got some traveling to do when I retire :)

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Here are some from the Waterloo engine works I believe. It's been about 7-8 years ago

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I think that's the model the guy who's place I'm working on has, a '72 with bucket. His is a beater. We used it the other day to move a 20' laminated beam. It's sitting there idling and rattling, then "tink!" and I notice something drop to the ground. The hydraulic pump broke. He's a funny guy. He's looking at the part saying, "it's been rattling like that for years. Why did it have to break now? Look, you can see it wore because the bolt was missing". Uh yeah? :lol: The good thing is the dealer had some parts and ordered the rest
You and me both. I think we need a museum thread in the meantime. I keep hearing about more and more.
That place must be amazing.

More from the local show. We have several shows like this around the region. Last picture is the Barnes Bros and a son running the rock crusher

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John Deere world headquarters about 6-7 years ago. Mostly just had new stuff on display.

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That's cool to see. I used to have two early 110s. The fenders were steel. I ran them many years. I still have the accessory book I got at the dealership. Mine had 8hp Kohlers. I had a JD 80 dump cart, too. I decided the early Cub Cadets were a better tractor and sold all my JD stuff to a collector. I bought the first one at a local JD dealership who holds a sale each spring to sell off all the year's trade-in. There were so many early tractor company lawn tractors it drove me crazy, Case, Massey Ferguson, etc. And a mess of quality ones like Wheel Horse, Simplicity, Gravely. Then there were so unique ones I never saw before, different designs like one that was a reel mover. The second 110 was set out for sale on Main St in my town. I forget why he was selling it but he had just had the transmission rebuilt at the dealership and he wanted $200. That's the one I mowed most with

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And here's my junk. John Deere 140 h3, Farmall 230 that was my grandad's, and a John Deere 3038e I bought new in 2012

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If you notice the front edge of the hood still has some dents in it.I read a story about the students restoring the tractor where not allowed to straiten them because Elvis was the one who put them in there!

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thanks for sharing - and naturally I had to read more :)

Elvis Presley's John Deere 4010
The inside story of restoring Stella.

https://www.agriculture.com/thmb/zc5...3d659c89e4.jpg

Elvis Presley’s original John Deere tractor on display in Graceland

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I remember hearing that and for some reason I thought that it was listed on the sign. Obviously I didn't read it before I posted it. On my 61 Apache 10 that was my grandpa's there is a bullet hole from the inside out but it just left a "nipple" and didn't go through the outside door skin. After visiting Graceland I thought about leaving it after hearing the story.

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Looks like you're pretty well set. That's a nice IH, a great size

Meanwhile, back at the tractor show. I'm throwing a road grader and some crawlers if that's ok

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Those of you that like to travel/RV/boondock etc, the keystone tractor museum in Petersburg has overnight parking and I believe they also have hookups. There is also a little cafe that is supposed to have some pretty decent food.

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The sandwich I had for lunch was good. I thought I had a whole slew of pictures from there, but don't see them now. That settles it. I have to go back now. I haven't been back since they expanded

More from the gas & steam show

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I worked this weekend on a friend's '72 John Deere 2520 Row Crop w/loader. It needs a hydraulic pump. I was doing some carpentry work for him and he was moving a TGI beam suspended from the bucket. Sitting there idling I thought it was rattling a good bit. This guy isn't much on maintenance so I wasn't surprised. Then "TINK" and I notice something drop under the tractor. It was the coupler to the pump had broken. time for some maintenance-free repairs :lol:. It turns out the pump had been leaking, which he knew about. So, this weekend I dismantled it down to the pump. The parts should be here by Wed. I'll upload the pictures of the tractor and edit them in

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Here’s a real clean IH that sold at a local auction yesterday for $7500. Several others sold but I was at the other ring. Did see this JD lawn tractor and this old Kubota.

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What about this Young guy from Ky.

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That’s pretty cool

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why did I not know about this thread until just now? lol. Subbed.