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wileecoyote427 04-15-2013 12:04 AM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
i like yer build droppin the 455 in there how are you gonna mount it with the 350 deisel mounts since they close or make new mounts and how radical of a motor is the 455 gonna be?

naphtali5725 04-15-2013 07:15 AM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
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Originally Posted by wileecoyote427 (Post 6012402)
i like yer build droppin the 455 in there how are you gonna mount it with the 350 deisel mounts since they close or make new mounts and how radical of a motor is the 455 gonna be?

the olds 455 is an excellent motor, makes A LOT of torque at low rpm's without much work. mine will be a mild build, 10.1:1 compression, .030 over, stock heads and a pretty decent cam.

mine will make 500+ ft/lbs of torque from idle through 3000rpm. Peak HP will be around 4-4500 rpm... not too shabby, since the rebuild kit for one is only 700.00+, and the motor cost me about 300-400 i think.

will be using a TH400 tranny, that's why I am asking if a truck 10 bolt is stronger than a truck 12 bolt, i'll probably twist one in half with 500+ ft/lbs of TQ :)

all Olds engines are the same width between the motor mounts, it is the deck height that is different, the big block is taller...

so same motor mounts for the small block fits the big...
depending on circumstances, may need to use the two forward holes on the block to mount the motor mounts.

can use car or truck frame mounts, just have to use the motor mounts that fit the frame mounts(they have to match depth of the motor mounts etc.)... and of course will have to set the engine in, and figure out where you will need to mount the frame mount, may have to drill holes, or weld them in.

in my situation, since my truck is all apart, i'll set the engine/tranny in, and make sure i have it far enough back so my driveshaft fits, then i'll bolt in the frame mounts, and tranny crossmember and i'll be good to go.

naphtali5725 04-16-2013 10:52 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
supposed to rain over the next several days.... so i may not have any updates until it dries out...

rs74 04-16-2013 10:56 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
Yeah it is heading your way. We are on day two of the rain.

77ChevySharkBite 04-16-2013 11:30 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
At least y'all's is somewhat predictable :lol: in Texas it can be 80 1 day and next day it be 60 and pouring down rain, it's safe to say Texas has it's own Eco system :lol:

Looking forward to the progress when you get it, we all have to deal with the elements one way or another.
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naphtali5725 04-20-2013 09:43 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
moved my cab out of the carport, now can sand and prime the bottom over the next few days.
moved my frame back into the carport up on jackstands.
now i can stay out of the rain while i do the frame, and clean up frame parts.
will be redoing all the tie-rod ends now, and the installing the LCA's
pics tomorrow...

will be going flip kit, and 2.5" drop spindles in the front after may 1st.

rs74 04-20-2013 09:51 PM

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I am glad you said that about the tie rods. I need to go ahead and put all my new steering stuff on. Did you end up getting any drop springs or are you cutting yours down?

naphtali5725 04-20-2013 09:57 PM

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i'm going with Mcgaughy's drop spindles, and flip kit. not going to cut any springs, don't want the ride to suck

77ChevySharkBite 04-20-2013 11:22 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
Sounds awesome man!!! Can't wait to see the pictures!!! :metal:
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68Timber 04-21-2013 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by naphtali5725 (Post 6011809)
since i have a 10 bolt that came with my truck, and a spare 12 bolt out of a Burb, I have been doing some reading...

it appears that a truck 10 bolt has a larger pinion than a truck 12 bolt, a car 12 bolt is stronger than a truck 12 bolt. so basically a truck 10 bolt is built stronger than a truck 12 bolt...will have to keep researching to see if it is worth the swap. if the truck 12 bolt is weaker, then i'll keep my 10


anyone confirm this?

That's what they say. I've read the debate a few times and can't pick a side anymore. When will your engine be done? Looking forward to the dyno pull.

naphtali5725 04-21-2013 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 6025168)
That's what they say. I've read the debate a few times and can't pick a side anymore. When will your engine be done? Looking forward to the dyno pull.

I'm going with my 10, if I bust it to pieces, i'll have the 12 as a backup plan :)

Joe@cmengines said 2-3 weeks for the engine...

naphtali5725 04-21-2013 06:27 PM

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frame is up and ready to be put back together

stripped all the dash foam off the dash panel.... i think i'm going to sand it down, and paint it so it looks like part of a cockpit panel or something and leave all the bullet holes in it....

finally got to where I can pull out my doors/fenders/bed etc.

mooseknuckles 04-21-2013 07:20 PM

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start weldin all those holes up....lol. I think it would look cool.

naphtali5725 04-21-2013 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mooseknuckles (Post 6025999)
start weldin all those holes up....lol. I think it would look cool.

LOL that's the thing. I was thinking of leaving all the holes there. like it's a lightened cockpit panel hehehehe
plenty of places for switches and lights :)

rs74 04-21-2013 10:08 PM

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I for one would like to see that happen. I would prefer the holes filled if it were mine but its not. :) Either way I would like to see it finished out. That would probably be pretty cool.

naphtali5725 04-21-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rs74 (Post 6026403)
I for one would like to see that happen. I would prefer the holes filled if it were mine but its not. :) Either way I would like to see it finished out. That would probably be pretty cool.

guess i'll have to save up for a mig welder then LOL

rs74 04-21-2013 10:29 PM

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Seriously, I think you might be on to something there. That would have never crossed my mind. The metal is pretty thin isn't it. I would be worried about it warping. Still a great idea. Do it!

naphtali5725 04-21-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rs74 (Post 6026459)
Seriously, I think you might be on to something there. That would have never crossed my mind. The metal is pretty thin isn't it. I would be worried about it warping. Still a great idea. Do it!

i could weld some reinforcements underneath, it would stay rigid. i just thought it would be different. never seen one done like it before.

77ChevySharkBite 04-21-2013 10:48 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
It's going to look awesome with whatever you decide to do! :metal: maybe weld some of the holes up, and leave a few to put some lights or guages in maybe?
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naphtali5725 04-22-2013 11:55 AM

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hood - half done
10 60 grit DA disks and 2 80 grit DA disks later.... damn my hands are buzzing...

77ChevySharkBite 04-22-2013 12:02 PM

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Looking good bro!! Keep it up :metal:

It's one of the joys of sanding even when your done you still feel like your sanding :lol:

naphtali5725 04-22-2013 05:18 PM

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epoxy primed bottom of cab...

stripped the hood to bare metal... epoxy primed

rs74 04-22-2013 07:55 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
Looks great! At this pace you will have it back together in no time.

naphtali5725 04-22-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by rs74 (Post 6028150)
Looks great! At this pace you will have it back together in no time.

that damn hood was a pain, i need to get some 40 grit paper cause 60 just didn't cut it good enough.
i'll be glad to get the front/rear suspension done so i can hang this cab...

naphtali5725 04-23-2013 12:09 PM

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stripped the fender, 10 60 grit DA disks.... no body filler found on the hood or the fender so far.
degreased, and will prime later today after a final 80 grit DA sand

damn i'm tired...

77ChevySharkBite 04-23-2013 01:35 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
Looking sharp man! You can do it, just think when it's all done you can sit back and admire your handy work and say DAMN I did a awesome job!!

inovermyhead 04-23-2013 02:17 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
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Originally Posted by naphtali5725 (Post 6011809)
since i have a 10 bolt that came with my truck, and a spare 12 bolt out of a Burb, I have been doing some reading...

it appears that a truck 10 bolt has a larger pinion than a truck 12 bolt, a car 12 bolt is stronger than a truck 12 bolt. so basically a truck 10 bolt is built stronger than a truck 12 bolt...will have to keep researching to see if it is worth the swap. if the truck 12 bolt is weaker, then i'll keep my 10


anyone confirm this?

I'm no expert but I kept my 10 bolt (mainly b/c of cost) and put Richmond 3:73 gears in it. The guy that did my rebuild told me I was better off w/the 10 vs. the 12 b/c the truck 10 is stronger. He's been running a truck 10 bolt in his 81 Firebird drag car for years w/out any issues.
Nice build so far, keep at it. Can't wait to see how the dash is going to turn out.

naphtali5725 04-23-2013 08:11 PM

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both fenders stripped to bare metal....
no body filler found!
right one has a few dings here/there...

will epoxy prime tomorrow after 80 grit and a wash

68Timber 04-23-2013 09:06 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
Good Lord, you've removed some material haven't you? How big a compressor do you have? Looks great, tuned in for the progress.

naphtali5725 04-23-2013 09:37 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
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Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 6030570)
Good Lord, you've removed some material haven't you? How big a compressor do you have? Looks great, tuned in for the progress.

yeah man, but made the mistake of getting 60 grit DA paper--- took all day long :waah: , man I wish I would have had 40 grit :)

compressor is a porter cable 6hp 6.8 SCFM@90 psi 25 gallon tank - not a powerhouse but it will get the job done, i'll be spraying the whole truck with it too...

squaredaway 04-24-2013 09:03 AM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
Looking great, brother!

mooseknuckles 04-24-2013 10:05 AM

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hell yeah!

naphtali5725 04-24-2013 10:30 AM

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started sanding down the cab...
look at that "patina" on the roof... my ass

naphtali5725 04-26-2013 08:51 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
not much went on the last couple of days...rainy here and there... more to come this week.
as soon as I get my drop spindles, flip kit and disc brake replacement parts... i'll be all over it

naphtali5725 05-01-2013 12:40 AM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
waiting on the cash for my spindles/flip kit...

naphtali5725 05-01-2013 05:39 PM

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OK... finally got my budget worked out for my project.
Paint etc. already decided ,and have supplies.
Front drop, already decided and have hardware.

1st question: looking for another engine solution. at first I was looking at Chevy 327 options, which I really like even though people say i'm crazy for wanting one. If I go with a 327 I want to be able to spin it real high if I want.

For the engine... budget says I can go three different routes... a short, or long block and add ons to complete the engine, or... a turn-key engine.
For a small block Chevy(cubic inches doesn't matter now), I would like input from you guys on which route could be the best bang for the buck with a budget of 4000.00+?
Transmission will be TH400, rear gear 3.08.

2nd question: Since I am only doing static drop on my truck with 2.5" drop spindles etc. up front. And I want to lower it in the rear and have a little rake to it. What would be the best suspension option for getting rid of the leaf spring setup in the rear, and a budget of 2000.00 or less.

Anyone used one of these?
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/na...8/media/images

As always, let me know what info you need to help me figure some stuff out.
Kind regards,
naphtali

68Timber 05-01-2013 06:10 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
I've got one of those serpentine kits but its still in the box. It's the same thing they're putting on late-model cars and trucks in a kit to retrofit on a old small block - not much to it really. If you wanted to get all that out the junkyard and dress it up you could and essentially have the same thing. That might be an option if you want to save some $$$ to put on the long-block.

To rev, 327 or 377, but what happened to the 455?

naphtali5725 05-01-2013 06:21 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
I still have the 455 :) I'm thinking about putting that with my 67.

yeah I figured a kit that had it all together in one package (part #12497697 is with PS/ALT and no A/C) would be cool to put on a SBC instead of one of those super expensive March kits.

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Originally Posted by BRUISER (Post 6045998)
I've got one of those serpentine kits but its still in the box. It's the same thing they're putting on late-model cars and trucks in a kit to retrofit on a old small block - not much to it really. If you wanted to get all that out the junkyard and dress it up you could and essentially have the same thing. That might be an option if you want to save some $$$ to put on the long-block.

To rev, 327 or 377, but what happened to the 455?


naphtali5725 05-05-2013 03:38 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
blah... rain for the next week, wtf? i wish I had a garage/shop, this really sucks guys... :waah:

At least I get to order parts, I guess that's a consolation...

Gordonr1973 05-05-2013 03:55 PM

Re: My new project 86 Silverado
 
All that bare metal makes me think you should chrome it all!

Lots of work & it looks great so far!!


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