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mobileortho 01-07-2022 07:14 PM

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Maybe have to make some. Form sheet around an MDF pattern. You can do it.

Lol! Thanks for your confidence in my beginner fabrication skills. I don’t even know what MDF is!!:lol::lol:

Rickysnickers 01-07-2022 08:06 PM

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Medium density fiberboard. You can find it in just about any hardware store or Home Depot type store. If there is a woodworking store near you, you might be able to buy smaller pieces.

mobileortho 01-07-2022 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rickysnickers (Post 9016043)
Medium density fiberboard. You can find it in just about any hardware store or Home Depot type store. If there is a woodworking store near you, you might be able to buy smaller pieces.

Thanks! I’ll check that out!

dsraven 01-07-2022 11:36 PM

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or if you have steel, that works. more farting around though.

mobileortho 01-24-2022 10:09 AM

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Still working on the doors & cowl panels. The drivers door works perfectly, the passenger side...not so much. still need to fine tune it a bit as it takes a fair amount of force to depress the button. Also looks as though there's no way to unlock the doors with the key if it was locked from the inside?? As luck would have it, I found one of the door handle plates I was looking for.

mobileortho 02-01-2022 11:12 AM

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Got a 33" Ididit column on order & will have to go back to the key in the dash. I never have been a fan of the aftermarket switches for these, just don't like the way they look. Thinking about going with this push button from Digital Dawg. Curious for those who may have tried one of these or similar if they like them?

joedoh 02-07-2022 06:38 PM

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gorgeous work!

thats an interesting push to start, back in the mid 90s I had an alarm called HAALT that used the same technology, disarm as you walk up, and remote start (still had to put the key in and turn it). it was buggy then but I bet 25 years of improvement will make yours better.

mobileortho 02-08-2022 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by joedoh (Post 9031427)
gorgeous work!

thats an interesting push to start, back in the mid 90s I had an alarm called HAALT that used the same technology, disarm as you walk up, and remote start (still had to put the key in and turn it). it was buggy then but I bet 25 years of improvement will make yours better.

Thanks! The unit came in today but it’ll be awhile before I get around to installing it. Still got to rewire it and finish some body mods. ALSO, I’ve been trying my best to resist the LS bug that’s going around… BUT, I stumbled across a brand new 500 hp 6.0 built by the HotRod Engine company someone bought a year or so ago that he never installed. He said he was going to do a stroker instead. The engine normally sells for around $8K but he’s letting it go for $5K! It’s still in the original shipping crate wrapped in plastic. Supposed to be going to pick it up this weekend. Stay tuned!

dsraven 02-08-2022 10:12 AM

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if swapping to an LS engine you may find a keyless option online. their power train control module runs the engine but I think it is the body control module that runs the door locks and cruise control etc, not sure on the keyless start thing. anyway, maybe figure that out before you lighten your wallet just to be sure all the modules will talk to each other and not require more modules to translate jibberish from one to another. ls1tech may be worth some time perusing. I have heard of guys with issues trying to get their cruise control to work with different steering columns and pcm's etc.
nice deal on the engine. if unclear on how long it sat you could boroscope down a spark plug hole to see if there is any rusty spots in the crosshatch cyl walls etc. should be fine though as a reputable shop would ensure the assembbly lube used would hold up for as long as possible.

mobileortho 02-08-2022 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dsraven (Post 9031818)
if unclear on how long it sat you could boroscope down a spark plug hole to see if there is any rusty spots in the crosshatch cyl walls etc. should be fine though as a reputable shop would ensure the assembbly lube used would hold up for as long as possible.

Thanks for the heads up. I’ll be sure to scope it before I fork over any cash.
On the ignition, I don’t think there will be much of an issue because it’s carbureted, although I’ll more than likely switch over to a Holley Sniper.

mobileortho 02-13-2022 08:53 AM

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Scope didn’t reveal any rust. Picked it up yesterday.

dsraven 02-13-2022 09:57 AM

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now ya done it, started down the slippery slope. haha.

mobileortho 02-14-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dsraven (Post 9034140)
now ya done it, started down the slippery slope. haha.

I KNOW!! Couldn't help it though! I gotta stop buying parts & focus on putting them on the truck! Dakota Digital HDX gauges, Ididit column, Digital Guard Dawg ignition, Nu-Relic power windows, Altman Latches, Roddoors ABS headliner & door panels, Raingear wiper system. If one ore box shows up at my house my wife will kill me!

dsraven 02-14-2022 01:09 PM

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you need to have them sent to a buddies or a neighbours place, haha. have them boxed as shoes.........

mobileortho 02-14-2022 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dsraven (Post 9034762)
you need to have them sent to a buddies or a neighbours place, haha. have them boxed as shoes.........


Ha ha! Great idea!

mobileortho 02-26-2022 10:38 PM

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Heard a lot of horror stories about the truck oil pan hanging to low on LS swaps, swapped it out & gained a few extra inches of clearance.

mobileortho 02-26-2022 10:47 PM

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Got the Dirty Dingo A/C mounted up. Swapped out the truck water pump & started mocking up the fuel injection.

mobileortho 03-06-2022 12:00 AM

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Mocked up the fuel rails and realized the Fitech kit didn’t include the injector wiring harness. I remember what someone told me about LS engines. He said unless you buy a complete junkyard engine you’d spend a fortune buying all the extra little stuff to make them run. So far I’ve had to buy the fuel injection kit, a/c, headers & down tubes, oil filler neck & cap, braided steam vents, throttle cable & bracket, oil filler tube, water pump (swapped the truck pump out for the car version), car oil pan & coil mounting brackets. Still gotta get a belt, the right power steering reservoir cap, a belt and coil harness AND decide what trans I’m going to use. I could use my 700r4, but doubt it will handle the power. Leaning towards a stage two 4L60 or 4L80.

dsraven 03-06-2022 12:09 AM

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sure looks shiny.
bear in mind that the ls engines have a different offset to the torque converter etc so a flywheel spacer is possibly needed if running something that used to be behind a small block chevy. at least thats what I seem to remember. what kind of module or ecm will you run for your engine? the ecm needs to be able to run the trans as well, check around what will work best for you and your set up. some may have different gear ratios going through the gears as well.

oldman3 03-06-2022 12:40 AM

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Looks great..Jim

mobileortho 03-06-2022 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dsraven (Post 9046915)
sure looks shiny.
bear in mind that the ls engines have a different offset to the torque converter etc so a flywheel spacer is possibly needed if running something that used to be behind a small block chevy. at least thats what I seem to remember. what kind of module or ecm will you run for your engine? the ecm needs to be able to run the trans as well, check around what will work best for you and your set up. some may have different gear ratios going through the gears as well.

Yeah, I had read something that said an adapter was needed for the earlier model trans. I was wanted to use my 700r4 but doubt it would last long behind this LS. I I’m using the Fitech Ultimate LS EFI with trans control & it calls for the 4l60, 4l65, 4l80 or 4l85. The rear end is a 8.5 10 bolt & 3:73 gears.

joedoh 03-07-2022 07:55 PM

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pretty stuff!

mobileortho 05-21-2022 12:38 AM

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Been sidelined with another bout with cancer, but all good now. Got a chance to sneak into the garage to work on my door handle swap. I shaved the original turn downs handles awhile back but decided to go with a set of push buttons with locks on both doors and Altman latches. Still got a little tweaking to do but I’m satisfied with the results.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/907005...posted-public/

mobileortho 05-22-2022 04:38 PM

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Started playing around with the Nu-Relics power windows. I’m thinking I’m the channel needs replacing, it’s not fully seating up top.

rnrdthefox 05-25-2022 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mobileortho (Post 9043770)
Got the Dirty Dingo A/C mounted up. Swapped out the truck water pump & started mocking up the fuel injection.

What's the advantage of the Dirty Dingo setup for the low mount A/C? Asking because that's where my A/C is and I'd like to keep it there but I will need to clearance the frame. Thx

mobileortho 05-25-2022 10:42 AM

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What's the advantage of the Dirty Dingo setup for the low mount A/C? Asking because that's where my A/C is and I'd like to keep it there but I will need to clearance the frame. Thx

I didn't want to spend more money changing out the accessory drive that came with the engine and had seen this setup on other AD's. I was concerned about clearance as well so I posed that question on the forum and got positive responses. I haven't mounted the engine as of yet but I'm hoping there won't be any issues.
Here's a link to the forum:
http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=831032

rnrdthefox 05-25-2022 11:11 AM

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Ok, Thanks. I will take a closer look. I will be integrating with Vintage air setup. I asked about using my stock compressor and they said it would work so I was trying to save some money. If I can keep from notching the frame, I'll take a look at the Sanden compressor.

mobileortho 06-05-2022 03:19 PM

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Still limited on physical activities, but I figured test sitting the door panels couldn’t hurt me. I’ll cover them later.

61 son of a Gun 07-31-2022 09:15 AM

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I've been following your thread, I hope your doing well.

mobileortho 07-31-2022 09:55 PM

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Thanks for checking in on me. Like the truck, I’m still a work in progress, not 100% but I’m getting better. Haven’t had much time to work on the truck lately. Been busy helping raise my 2 & 3 year old grandsons & that leaves little time for anything else. I did manage to squeeze in a little time this weekend and worked on the cowl panels a bit. I’d hoped to have been finished by now but life happens.

rnrdthefox 08-01-2022 12:55 AM

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Where did you get your door panels from? Thx

mobileortho 08-01-2022 09:28 AM

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Where did you get your door panels from? Thx

Roddoors I got the matching headliner too. I'll get around to installing them one of these days.

joedoh 08-01-2022 11:24 AM

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door panels look great! glad to hear you are getting better too!

mobileortho 08-02-2022 10:12 AM

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door panels look great! glad to hear you are getting better too!

Thanks Joehoh. As my grandfather would say, "I'm still kicking, just not high!"

mobileortho 08-05-2022 11:04 AM

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Sooo... I think I have all the parts needed to make the LS run. I've been seriously thing about firing up on the stand this weekend. More to come!

mobileortho 08-08-2022 09:52 PM

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Well, thing’s didn’t go exactly as planned. Didn’t get to start it up. I spent hours trying to find the intake bolts and fuel pressure gauge. I hate it when I put up stuff for easy access only to forget where that was!! 🤔🤔 I stumbled across them tonight in the very last place I thought to look! Also ran into an issue with the Powermaster mini starter. This one was clockable but I had to rotate it 180 degrees to clear the exhaust manifold placing the electrical connectors on the backside rendering them inaccessible. The gear wouldn’t disengage from the flywheel 100% of the time so I’m gonna send it back for something else.

It wasn’t a complete waste of time though. I did get the engine to prime so I’m glad about that. Will try again this weekend. Fingers crossed!

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mobileortho 08-18-2022 11:33 AM

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Still working to get the engine started. Got the replacement started installed and it works fine. Ran into an issue with the fuel pump supplied with the kit. It only puts out about 20 psi. Contacted tech support & the said it should be closer to 70 and that I was going to need a regulator to get it to around 58. They're sending me a new pump & I'll go ahead and install a regulator.

joedoh 08-18-2022 12:49 PM

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sheesh seems like a whole host of problems. good think you are shaking it out now.

mobileortho 08-18-2022 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by joedoh (Post 9114171)
sheesh seems like a whole host of problems. good think you are shaking it out now.

I KNOW!!! I was warned by dsraven awhile back!

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Originally Posted by dsraven (Post 9034140)
now ya done it, started down the slippery slope. haha.

Someone else warned that it was going to nickel & dime me to death and that's proving to be true!! But, on the flip side, hopefully i can get all the bugs now. If not, I'll sell the Fitech and get a Sniper.

mobileortho 08-27-2022 06:31 PM

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Success!!! It sounds NASTY!!

First fire!

I’m gonna get in so much trouble!


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