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smoknbarrels 02-21-2013 03:09 AM

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Well I got a lot done today, which is nice. I reinforced my C-notch as I didn't really trust it, since I plan to pull a small trailer or a boat with this truck, so I boxed in that small area of the frame on the inside. Also I welded in some studs to the trailing arms so I could mount the shocks in the one and only place I had room for them, just between the tire and the frame rail where it narrows in the rear.

My high tech template
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found a nice piece of scrap plate that was just the right thickness as the frame and enough material to make two notches
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welded it in, had to do a little fill job on the bottom as the C-notch had a gap there.
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this is my shock mock up, I still need to make a bracket to weld to the frame, I am going to use 1 3/4" channel, its a tight fit between the tire, but will work awesome in this location, way better then stock even. You can also see I had to cut the bolt in c-notch as the bolt heads and plate were too thick and would have too little of clearance for these wide tires, so I cut it back and welded it to the frame, so now I have a partially welded and partially bolted notch! haven't decided if thats a good or bad thing yet! haha!
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smoknbarrels 02-23-2013 01:27 AM

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had some progress today, mounted the shock brackets.. its a tight fit, but will be very effective in this location. used some 2X1 channel, had to notch it quite a bit as the shock tube would have hit the sides, also had to make little ears for it up top as 1 inch isn't enough to drill a hole and mount a bolt.

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canadian sledneck 02-24-2013 01:58 PM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
looking great with those big meats on the back! Sweet set up!

smoknbarrels 02-28-2013 01:50 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
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Originally Posted by canadian sledneck (Post 5909713)
looking great with those big meats on the back! Sweet set up!

Yea, i spent way too much time getting those things to fit with stock arms and my shock arrangement.
Would have been 1000% easier if i used a tire just a few inches narrower..ah well.


Spent a bit of time last few days doing re-work. Ripped off my shock mounts and located them a little more inboard, also took off the trans and clutch, as i didnt feel i loctited the bolts on flywheel well enough. And flipped the rear disc brakes upside down, so the e-brake cable would fit better, so that meant pulling the axels out and unbolting everything on the rear! So as far as getting something done, i did manage to mock up my pan hard bar, so that should get welded in tomorrow, and perhaps i can go shopping for a few brake parts i need or start assembling the box to get started on welding in side marker fillers and wheel well widening...oh the joys!
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NSK 02-28-2013 02:00 PM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
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Originally Posted by smoknbarrels (Post 5293343)
wow am I tired tonight! worked 14 hours straight on the truck today , sanded off about 10lbs of old paint. figured I'd be all rested up from the vacation, but turns out it's harder to get motivated when off the project for a few weeks, today was the first day I worked on it since back, and I got home last wednesday!
I slaped the 9 inch Moser diff together, but now I am worrried I went too narrow, we'll see tomorrow when I fit it between the frame rails with tires on it.

got most of the cab sanded, still need to blast the bottom floor.
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this Moser diff and axels are quite heavy duty
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setting up the wilwood disc brakes
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all ready to snap some u-joints!
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whats the width on the rearend?

smoknbarrels 03-01-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NSK (Post 5918815)
whats the width on the rearend?

I ended up going a little too narrow... its 56-1/2" I needed to go another 1/4" wider for these rims, I plan to upgrade to 20's next year, so it will be fine then as with 15's the trailing arms just touch the inside because of the depth and small diameter. so i have to get a small 1/8 spacer for now.

smoknbarrels 03-03-2013 08:35 PM

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Well got the cab painted fully last night, so it is done! ... finally! only took 3 tries. still a few issues, one paint run, and some how, which I will never understand nor will any scientist... a mosquito somehow flew and landed on the paint, just inside the drip rail, I seen it fly as I was spraying my second coat of clear, and the little bugger went straight to the paint.
Unreal!!? how could one be flying around March 2nd in this area with still a foot of snow everywhere? I had to do a double take to actually believe it! we are all doomed, they are adapting to winter, I opened the main door a bit to release the flashed paint, and I seen him fly in, so now he's buried in my 3rd coat of clear.
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canadian sledneck 03-04-2013 01:19 PM

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Cab looks great! Good job on the paint! Can't believe the mosquito, must like a chevy...

Bomp 03-04-2013 03:25 PM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
Good job on the cab.
I hear ya on the stupid mosquito kamikaze stuff.

jmorri34 03-04-2013 03:46 PM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
@^$%#* mosquito,:devil: Well at least you can use it as a story, and he will be there forever lol... Hey man its looking great. When mine gets to that point, Im thinking of doing some of the paint as well but not sure. I may just go single stage orange though, acrylic enamel maybe no metallic for me, Id never do as good as you lol. Great job!!

smoknbarrels 03-05-2013 02:27 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
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Originally Posted by canadian sledneck (Post 5926587)
Cab looks great! Good job on the paint! Can't believe the mosquito, must like a chevy...

Yea, thanks, you'll have to come down sometime and check it out!

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Originally Posted by Bomp (Post 5926799)
Good job on the cab.
I hear ya on the stupid mosquito kamikaze stuff.

Thanks, i like watching your build, it's got some serious stuff happening there!

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Originally Posted by jmorri34 (Post 5926835)
@^$%#* mosquito,:devil: Well at least you can use it as a story, and he will be there forever lol... Hey man its looking great. When mine gets to that point, Im thinking of doing some of the paint as well but not sure. I may just go single stage orange though, acrylic enamel maybe no metallic for me, Id never do as good as you lol. Great job!!

Dont get discouraged, i would maybe shy away from water based paint, but a nice 2K oil based is still forgiving enough to do yourself... Just practise more then I did!
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chevy88 03-06-2013 03:06 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
Great job on the body work/paint, looks like your a fast learner.
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smoknbarrels 03-07-2013 12:38 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
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Originally Posted by chevy88 (Post 5930372)
Great job on the body work/paint, looks like your a fast learner.

Looks like i have it figured out but i made my share of mistakes! But i am happy with my last attempt. I hope you challenge painting your project, its a rewarding experience.


Today, i got a few things done, did the last of the brake lines, had to move a shock mount for the third time... Hopefully tomorrow is more productive, running behind on this as spring is coming near.
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Graham57a 03-07-2013 01:37 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
This is a great build. I'm late to the show but I'm subscribed now:metal:

54belair 03-07-2013 10:12 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
I can relate to your initial fears, it looks like you have "overcome and adapted"---truck looks good man,,,

smoknbarrels 03-11-2013 10:32 PM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
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Originally Posted by Graham57a (Post 5932282)
This is a great build. I'm late to the show but I'm subscribed now:metal:

Thanks, you have a nice clean build goin on, i like what you're doin!

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Originally Posted by 54belair (Post 5932550)
I can relate to your initial fears, it looks like you have "overcome and adapted"---truck looks good man,,,

Thanks, its trying sometimes.


Well I got a little more done, not a whole bunch, but some... got my sensors located and mounted in the rear for the Accuair, also test fit my box and made some fixes on the aftermarket sheetmetal bedsides, had to drill out a few spot welds are re align one corner.
also welded in a marker light filler too fast and warped half the bedside, so now i have to cut it out again and redo it all..

this is as low as I can get with a c-notch, not as deep as I would like, but I guess it will have to do for now, when I get 20's they should be able to tuck the rims a little better in the fenders.
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well here I can finally see I went a little too narrow on the rear end, I guess I will have to throw in a 1/2 inch wheel spacer for these rims, and when I go to the 20's I will make sure to order the rims with 7 inch back spacing instead of 7.5 like these ones, then it'll be perfect. good thing i test fit with the el cheapo drag lites for now.
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smoknbarrels 03-22-2013 01:14 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
learned a few things, I guess its not a good idea to try weld sheet metal with .035 wire in my mig, haha! no wonder I am having a heck of a time trying to weld anything other then the floor! gonna hold off on welding anything else until I get some .023 dia wire.

I welded in a marker light with the .035 wire, and warped half the bed side, so I had to cut out the messed up marker light haz area, lucky the metal came back for the most part, so I've already got a new filler cut out and test fit, just needs to be welded in. then do some planishing and dolly work to get the filler to a minimum.
but since I have no wire at the moment, I might start looking at painting the doors and building front shock mounts tomorrow.

ddubbs 03-22-2013 01:26 AM

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Coming along sweet. Subscribed!!!:metal::metal:
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Bomp 03-22-2013 11:20 AM

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.023 in my little Lincoln sp-100 is my favorite sheet metal welder.
Take your time. Slower is almost always better.
Looking great.

smoknbarrels 03-24-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ddubbs (Post 5963020)
Coming along sweet. Subscribed!!!:metal::metal:

thanks!

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Originally Posted by Bomp (Post 5963531)
.023 in my little Lincoln sp-100 is my favorite sheet metal welder.
Take your time. Slower is almost always better.
Looking great.

well this time I got all set up for the .023 wire, it is much easier to work with, but still warped the bed side massively, but only about half as much as the first time. I welded spots only one on each side of the patch at a time, then let it cool completely, I even tried to whack the welds with the hammer and dolly, that did absolutely nothing... How hard do you have to hit them? Same force as flattening a rivet? I swung pretty good and it didnt do a thing.
So it looks like i am gonna have to go buy a stud welder/puller and go to town on this thing.
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Bomp 03-24-2013 11:41 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
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Originally Posted by smoknbarrels (Post 5967445)
well this time I got all set up for the .023 wire, it is much easier to work with, but still warped the bed side massively, but only about half as much as the first time. I welded spots only one on each side of the patch at a time, then let it cool completely, I even tried to whack the welds with the hammer and dolly, that did absolutely nothing... How hard do you have to hit them? Same force as flattening a rivet? I swung pretty good and it didnt do a thing.
So it looks like i am gonna have to go buy a stud welder/puller and go to town on this thing.
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Glad to see you got some .023
Im no expert by any means but is the welder set a little hot?

smoknbarrels 03-24-2013 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomp (Post 5967534)
Glad to see you got some .023
Im no expert by any means but is the welder set a little hot?

I have it on the lowest setting I can put it on, and the wire feed is set to just about 50 so its pushing it pretty fast, if I set the wire feed any slower it burns the wire back and sometimes gets stuck in the gun even. I dunno if its possible, but I wondered if my mig was maybe too big? its a miller 212 and is not a small unit by any means..
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had some progress today, got the parking brake cables all finished up, was nice to use the wilwood brake cable kit, so now I did away with my intermediate cable! by some miracle, the brake cable threads were the exact size as the generic equalizing block that came in the kit from Wilwood, Finally something that didn't require modification!
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Here is my shock relocation set-up, pretty simple but effective, still allows for full suspension travel. looks funky in the photo, but the angle is lined up nicely.
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Bomp 03-24-2013 11:57 PM

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Yes the 212 is a big machine. One of the best you can get but from what I've read its like taking a cannon to a gun fight. With enough practice on similar sheet metal material you can achieve anything.
I have a miller 210 and only use that on bigger stuff. (.035)
I don’t really like to use my Millermatic 211 on sheet metal if I don’t have to.(.030) Mainly cause I'm lazy. If I do use it on sheet metal I switch the pig tail end over to 110.
The little Lincoln sp-100 (.023) is a 110 unit and is easiest for me. I have a brief discussion on the welders I use in a vid on pg.16 Second vid on that page.
I use a argon/co2 (75-25) mix with solid core wire.
I really like your progress.
I may have missed it but your using solid core wire correct?
Like the shock relocation.

smoknbarrels 04-03-2013 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomp (Post 5969119)
I have a brief discussion on the welders I use in a vid on pg.16 Second vid on that page.
I use a argon/co2 (75-25) mix with solid core wire.
I really like your progress.
I may have missed it but your using solid core wire correct?
Like the shock relocation.

yes I use solid core wire..
you sure put good useful work into your build for us!! great info and reference index, I am sure a lot of other guys are using it too! took a little easter break, hopefully get some work done this week on the truck.

BLUIDVL 04-04-2013 01:55 AM

Re: Build: I've never done bodywork...but I can change if I have to! (bagged '67 SWB
 
Just went through your build....... looking good man

Congrats on the new shop & marriage.

Have you tried using Evercoat slick sand?

Let me know if you need any bodywork or painting tips.


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