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mcbassin

01-31-2012 11:56 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by Crash_OK (Post 5158660)

Update from last weekend.. Built a driver’s side battery box out of what I had on hand.. I am not super happy with it, but it is functionally, and does not look that bad. It did fit well, and is very stable.

Then I fired the engine up.. started instantly.. I used the Scan Gauge out of my Tundra to look for PCM codes and to monitor water temp, loop mode, and RPM.
I had my lovely, wonderful, wife record the engine startup… Seems she could not keep the camera off of me.. Can’t say I blame her.. :lol: But she did get some pictures of it running. The audio is terrible on the cheap camera we were using the engine was much more quite than this video depicts.

Hey Mark, nice work on the battery box. It looks right at home to me. I'm digging the video too. I really want to know how to hook up one of those for my project(s). Keep up the hard work :chevy:

Crash_OK

02-01-2012 12:02 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5159022)

Hey Mark, nice work on the battery box. It looks right at home to me. I'm digging the video too. I really want to know how to hook up one of those for my project(s). Keep up the hard work :chevy:

Thanks Mike.. The welds need improvement.. The battery tray was rusted out in a coupe of places.. I patched those, but there is still some pitting. The PO used a 1973 - 80 battery tray.. it worked out well moved to the drivers sde.

What is it you want to know how to hook up?

Crash_OK

02-02-2012 11:31 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Got the cab moved to the shop.. I will find a different method to unload cabs by myself in the future. The cab flipped 90 degrees on me.. it was not pretty.. but I finally got it back in the right position.

I tilted the cab up to start on the cleanup of the floor tomorrow.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2020265.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2020266.jpg

I also position the LS1 fan setup into place.. I will also work on getting a mounting system setup tomorrow.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2020267.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2020268.jpg

mcbassin

02-03-2012 01:24 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

OUCH! That sucks, hope you didn't get tweaked in the tip over. Or make some new dents:(. Looking forward to the LS fan setup details.

Crash_OK

02-03-2012 11:22 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5163311)

OUCH! That sucks, hope you didn't get tweaked in the tip over. Or make some new dents:(. Looking forward to the LS fan setup details.

There was some tweaking and some new dents.. but not a big... small problems compared to some... I loaded the old cab this morning in about 5 minutes..

Crash_OK

02-03-2012 11:23 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

mcbassin

02-04-2012 02:28 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Good work on the fan mount Mark. You're gonna have to show me how you wired that setup. I'm assuming you are monitoring the engine temp with your scan tool.

That looks like some 1/8X1" aluminum angle. I have crap load of that stuff in a corner somewhere in my piled shop I would have been glad to give you some. Too bad that cab needs so much attention. I just got finished for the night on mine, it was a long battle. I'll give you a hand with if iI can.

Crash_OK

02-04-2012 01:40 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5165369)

Thanks Mike.. I have it all documented.. should not have any problems.. The fan setup works really nice, I am glad I went this way instead of the mechanical fan.
I had the angle piece laying around.. it worked out well.

No problem on the cab.. 40 year old stuff is going to have rust.. I am still debating on which cab to use.. And I will take all the help I can get… so if you every get bored and want to make a trip to Eufaula I will be there..

Hope all is going well on your cab....

Crash_OK

02-04-2012 09:52 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

mcbassin

02-05-2012 03:21 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

WOW! That thing sure looks different after you shot it with sand (black diamond). It all looks so familiar for some reason. It's really not too bad, it's just time consuming. I know I was really glad to get the cleaning stage that you did today done.

fakerwade

02-05-2012 03:58 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5167343)

X2 ,,,,,,,,time consuming,, (hate rust!!!) :barf:

Crash_OK

02-05-2012 10:11 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5167343)

Now that I know how bad it is.. I know what I need to do to fix... All it takes is time and money... :-)

Crash_OK

02-05-2012 10:11 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by fakerwade (Post 5167366)

X2 ,,,,,,,,time consuming,, (hate rust!!!) :barf:

X4... I hate rust more today then I did yesterday...

Crash_OK

02-05-2012 10:12 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

tsnow678

02-05-2012 11:19 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

I cant say how much this thread is going to help me in the near future!!! Seems your truck and mine have the same issues in the cab. The .030" wire should be fine, the .024" would be better but I am sure you will find the sweet spot on wire speed. Keep the pics coming as I am sure there are a ton of us like you out there that will be doing the same fixes. Thanks!!!

Crash_OK

02-11-2012 11:41 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by tsnow678 (Post 5169189)

Thanks tsnow...

Crash_OK

02-11-2012 11:42 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

tsnow678

02-12-2012 01:54 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Man you made a ton of progress!!! Hows the wire working out? I am trying to rush through my other projects to get started on my truck. Threads like this make the itch worse!!! Great job!!!

RCbowtie69

02-12-2012 11:55 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Looking good,gald you got the motor ruinng.You've have done alot work on this truck so far.Keep the pictures coming & keep on Truckin' :metal: :cool:

Crash_OK

02-12-2012 02:04 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by tsnow678 (Post 5182696)

Man you made a ton of progress!!! Hows the wire working out? I am trying to rush through my other projects to get started on my truck. Threads like this make the itch worse!!! Great job!!!

Thanks tsnow... I just read all 67 pages of you build on LS1tech... Wow.. great job.. I am looking for a Camaro for my next project... I really like your truck.. it should not take much to get it were you want it... Good luck with the new short block.

Crash_OK

02-12-2012 02:07 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by RCbowtie69 (Post 5183107)

Looking good,gald you got the motor ruinng.You've have done alot work on this truck so far.Keep the pictures coming & keep on Truckin' :metal: :cool:

Thanks RCbowtie.. Getting the motor running might have been the easiest part of this build.. I am working on the cab now.. I hate rust.. I am ready to go back to mechanical and wiring.. did I mention I hate rust... :-)

mcbassin

02-12-2012 02:08 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Super work Mark! I told you that you could handle it. That series of pictures are painfully familiar. I ended up taking off all day yesterday and might do the same today. Still no heat. It's freakin cold. Keep the hard work up, I'm sure you will be ahead of me in no time, if you aren't already.:)

Crash_OK

02-12-2012 02:16 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5183362)

Thanks Mike.. Yes.. I think you said it right a few days ago.. all of these old trucks have rust.. man.. I am sick of it, and still have a ton more to do. I might need your help with the cab corner.. damn thing doesn’t want to fit… I got tired of fighting it and just moved on…
I come home last night… so I will not get to work on it today… No way I catch you.. you are too far ahead and much better and efficient at this stuff then me..
It ain’t that cold… It is all in your mind…. Lol…

tsnow678

02-12-2012 04:54 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

I will have to agree with you on the mechanical and wiring. I never mind working on the drivetrain, its the rust removal, metal replacement, and pain staking body work that kicks my butt everytime. You look like a pro at the body work so give yourself some credit! Appreciate you looking over my thread on LS1Tech. Hope it didnt bore you too bad. I cheated on the bodywork on the Camaro and paid someone to replace panels, bodywork and paint. Wont be that lucky on the truck. I want my truck to be a show winner but reality is its going to be a 20 footer. Keep the pics coming and all the details are great, thanks.

DD1	02-12-2012 07:16 PM

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Wow! The body work looks great. You actually did a lot of work that was overwhelming me. Did you find it necessary to weld a bracing rod on the cab when you replaced the outer floor? I am going to have to do the same thing on my (new) cab. Remove the rocker, replace the outer floor, and the rear cab support. A friend suggested I brace the cab to make sure the doors will still fit properly.

Where did you get your patch panels from?

It's looking good so far!

DD1	02-13-2012 12:17 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by tsnow678 (Post 5169189)

I am going to be doing some welding for the first time soon. I am learning how to weld a bit before I try it on my truck. I am using a flux wire welder. Why is the 0.24 better than the 0.30? I am trying to learn what applications the different sized wires are each best used for.

Thanks!

tsnow678

02-13-2012 06:08 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by DD1 (Post 5184769)

When we were talking about .024" versus .030" we were referring to solid wire. The thickness of the metal you are welding will determine what is the best wire to use. The thicker the metal the thicker the wire. You can weld thicker metal with thinner wire. The problem is, to get a good penetration and a consistent one you will need to fill the weld joint with metal(wire). The larger the metal being welded the more wire required. The flux core wire works ok on say a frame or dirty metal but is not first choice on bodywork as it will splatter terribly. Not knocking flux core, but the preference is solid wire with a shielding gas. My next purchase after my truck is on the road will be a plasma torch and TIG welder. I am just an average Joe when it comes to welding so the TIG will definately be a challenge. Sorry Crash for high-jacking your thread.

67c10rustbuket

02-13-2012 08:19 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Man you are knocking that thing out quick ! very nice.

I dont know if you ever got an answer on the xmember Q for 6 or V8, All I know is on a stock 2wd the motor mount stands bolt in farther to the rear than a V8. If you look on your pass upper front frame rail you will see 3 holes. the rear and middle hole is the stock placement for a 6 while the center and front hole are for a V8, The xmember itself is the same.

Keep it up and enjoy the snow!

DD1	02-13-2012 11:20 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by tsnow678 (Post 5185109)

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

And Crash, I apologize for hi-jacking your thread as it was really me that did it.

Crash_OK

02-13-2012 12:40 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by DD1 (Post 5183956)

Thanks DD1, I did not weld a brace. I don't think it was needed, nothing moved, I took lots of measurements, and they did not change. However, I would see nothing wrong with using one.. it would not hurt a think. Good luck with your project...!!

Crash_OK

02-13-2012 12:42 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by tsnow678 (Post 5185109)

Tsnow and DD1, no problem.. this is not highjacking this is good infomation.. I am still considing us the .024 just to see what the difference is..

Crash_OK

02-13-2012 12:46 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by 67c10rustbuket (Post 5185156)

67c10rustbuket,

I never got an answer on the cross member.. The 4wd cross member is completely different than the 2wd. I finally used the x-member from Pacific fabrication. It worked well, however, I do have a few concerns on pan clearance that I need to talk to them about.

tsnow678

02-13-2012 11:44 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by Crash_OK (Post 5185560)

Tsnow and DD1, no problem.. this is not highjacking this is good infomation.. I am still considing us the .024 just to see what the difference is..

You may not see a difference as the metal you are welding is rather thick. These old trucks still had plenty of metal in them from the factory.

Crash_OK

02-21-2012 03:52 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Thought I would give a quick update.. SLOW… Very Slowww.. progress is slow.. I hate rust.. oh. Have I mentioned that the #$%$#$ patch panels don’t fit on these trucks… anyway.. I was able to get the passenger side floor pan in.. it fit OK.. I spotted welded the pan in many places.. not sure it was as many as the factory.. but it was close. Next step was to replace part of the toe panel.. it was rusted in many places a couple of inches up from the floor pan.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190384.jpg

I decided to cut the toe panel out of my old cab to use on this one. It was in pretty good shape.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190383.jpg

It did have a couple of rusted places that I cut out and replaced.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190385.jpg

Then I marked and cut out the old and replaced with the new.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190386.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190387.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190388.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190389.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190390.jpg

Welded the kick panel in and bolted up the front pillar.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190391.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190392.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2200398.jpg

Then I decided to tackle the cab corner again.. have I mentioned that the patch panels don’t fit on those old trucks..

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2200397.jpg

I have this wide gap between the rocker and the cab corner.. Not sure what to do about it.. I have measured everything and I am within 1/16” before and after on all the measurements for the front and rear pillar.

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2200394.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2200395.jpg
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2200396.jpg

I still have some grinding and sanding to do... I guess I will start on the driver’s side next.. It should be as much fun as the passenger side.. Have I mention that I hate rust…

http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/P2190393.jpg

Any ideas for the gap I have between the cab corner and the rocker?

Thanks.

tsnow678

02-21-2012 04:30 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Have you hung the door on the right side to see what the body gap is like with the corner in its current position? I just wonder if the rocker is too far forward or is the cab corner not long enough to make up the gap. The door will let you know for sure.

Crash_OK

02-21-2012 04:33 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by tsnow678 (Post 5203378)

I will try to fit the door.. my guess is that the cab corner is short.. I have another cab corner that I can try as well.. Thanks tsnow...

mcbassin

02-21-2012 05:45 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by Crash_OK (Post 5203382)

I will try to fit the door.. my guess is that the cab corner is short.. I have another cab corner that I can try as well.. Thanks tsnow...

Definetly want to test fit the door. I am fighting this right now. My rockers on both side suprisingly good. The doors on the other hand....not so good. The driver side I can work with the pass. side is giving me fits.

I can measure my rocker and you can compare it to yours. Maybe you could measure across the length of your exra cab corner to see if it is longer across that distance? Also, the rear lower pillar is what I set my cab corner to. Since I repaired mine on both sides I know it didn't move. I know you checked yours before and after is it possible the rocker is just short?

Also, before you tackle the driver side you may want to double check with Tabco on the floor pan. It may fit better?? It may not require bending that flange? Just a thought.

Crash_OK

02-21-2012 05:52 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

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Originally Posted by mcbassin (Post 5203501)

It is possible that the rocker is short.. but so could the cab corner.. I need to try the one you gave me and see if it is longer.. I really did not have much problems with the floor pan.. I spent most of my time on the cab corner.. I guess that is why I am focusing on it... I think the cab corner may be pulling the outside edge of the rear pillar to the rear of the truck opening up the gap...

Crash_OK

02-24-2012 10:57 PM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

mcbassin

02-25-2012 01:22 AM

Re: Crash's 72 K10

Mark,
It looks like your pass. side cab corner fits much better now. I know how frustated you are about now with the patches and rust. I think we may have been better off using Tabco parts on all it.
I really like your cab dolly BTW.
Oh and I have a few blood stains on my shop floor too. WTH, were we thinking???

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