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This is my latest project it's well on its way
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Looks clean. Specs? Plans?

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Truck has front and rear porterbuilt drop members ls1 with heads cam magnacharger and its sitting on 22" billetspecialties turbine rims
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Nice! Keep the pics coming and maybe go ahead and include a couple of that F-- d in the background.
Frank
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Here's with the 22s on at rpm
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Wow - looks great!
I have one question though - I might catch hell from all the guys with bagged squares -
I only ask because I've had experience with hydraulics, not airbags - but can you really take advantage of a huge HP engine, whether an LS or not? I mean, isn't there some diminished handling characteristics with airbags? So isn't all that monster HP kinda wasted?

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very nice truck

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With air bags the more psi in the bag the higher the spring rate gets.Handling can be better with air bags if its set up right,Ridetech took a 4th gen camaro and ran it down a slalom bone stock then put their air ride kit on it and ran it again.The air ride one did better times.

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Air bags CAN handle great but when they are aired up to get a proper spring rate for handling they sit to high and a static drop car with static spring rates is already at its ride hight so it will outperform bags with ease

Airbags = great stance nice ride and moderate handling
Springs = harsh or soft ride. Moderate stance great handling when setup that way and a good stance with about the same fab as bags
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The ride height of an air'd up bagged suspension will depend on the suspension,... not the bag.
Any Porterbuilt chassis has a lower ride height than my bagged blazer at full dump.

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heres a few shots of the bed

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i went with new bed sides front wall and gate and the crew at rpm designed and did the metal work inside

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Killer work,... like always,... from the guys at RPM.

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heres the bed complete

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That's one of the nicest beds i seen on here in a while.

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Sweet! Like the bed fabrication but what is the hole in the middle of the notch and the rear slots for?

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Gas cap....

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Sick.

What's the deal w/ that Bronco in the background? Looks interesting.

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That thing is amazing....

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hole in the rear is gas cap and , the slots in the front and rear are mac trac's ill post a pic of them there flush mount into the bed

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Exactly if your air susp is built for handling then it will handle great but if your aired up or aired halfway it will still be slightly softer than a coil system and will lean more. And besides it kinda defeats the dual purpose of bags by setting it up as such bags give you stance at the shows and good ride and ground clearance around town
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i took a few pics today theres a shot of the mac's track that flush mounts into the bed , not sure if ill have them polished or powercoated yet

a pic of the gas cap and the boxes RPM made to go in the fuel doors left side is air fitting to fill the tank kinda back up and a air gauge to show tank pressure and the right side is battery jump terminals and flaming river kill switch and those are painted flat like the engine bay will be

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What type of air suspension set-ups have you built and/or tweaked? From my experience (steel coils & bag set-ups on my own personal 6X-74 trucks that were done similarly)....

Airbags or steel Springs = harsh or soft ride depending on how they're set-up.
Moderate stance & great handling can be achieved w/either spring type again depending on how they're set up.
Steel coils can be set up w/a good stance (ride height) with about the same fab as bags but won't have the same adjustability.

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Are we really going to question the suspension on this truck!!!!!!!!!!!!! Pro touring cars have air ride and handle great!...Lets save the "How to bag a truck 101" questions out and lets see the man build an over the top truck. From the photos so far my guess is the truck will be 110% show quality.

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Oh and the only way to go suspension wise on these trucks is Porterbuilt!!!!!!!!!! The days of Zing a frame are long gone and I'm pretty sure this truck has a full Porterbuilt setup.

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All porterbuilt stuff controlled with accair front and rear sway bars and most likely Hal qa1 billet adjustable shocks , i want all this power to the ground for sure
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Thanks
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I've done my own susp work and been in both types. Race cars don't use bags lol nuff said.


You need to get that engine started for us and post a vid!
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Maybe NASCAR does not use air ride but there are tons of protouring cars that are on air and have great suspension response.

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Sweet looking project looks like fun. The bed is killer gonna be badass when its all done :D Keep up the good work on it!

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quote from post #179 in Project Joe Tourings build thread made by the c10 suspension guru robnolimit of No Limits Engineering


" A spring is just a spring. And, an air spring has a naturally progressive spring rate. I guess the most important thing is getting the right bag at the right hieght to get the spring rate that you want. You can have it all, it just takes a little homework. To be honest, we fix air ride systems every week, and 99.9% of all problems can be tied to parts choice, or installation. Shocks and sway bars are still important. "

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Awesome truck!
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wilwood brakes came last week 14" 4 piston rear end should be back anyday i had it narrowed 5" and a 4:10 posi

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God bless, another sick C10. LOVE the wheels. That bed fabwork is awesome. Keep it coming im scribed.:metal:
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Subscribed for the finale.

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updates?

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Looks very good and matches my taste!
Volker (thats my name)