'62 BBW SWB Highschool ride returns
 

Is it wrong to start another project before the other('s) are done? Oh well I'm doin it anyway :) I bought this truck when I was 17 for $1,040. It was a root beer brown with cream upholstry, and a Cadilac tele column. The motor was a 283 with power pack heads and a cast iron 4 barrel intake. It had a holley carb and Crane roller rockers with a solid lifter cam. The guy had just put a Turbo 400 tranny in it, and with the posi it was a blast to drive. Since then I wore out the 283, rebuilt and wore it out again. About 10 years ago I replaced the 283 with a factory 350 crate motor, rebuilt the TH-400, and set it on a newer frame with disk brakes and power steering. Rebuilt everything mechanical, but left the body alone. It looked terrible, but the 3" exhaust with headers & flowmasters was enough to piss off the neighbors, and set off every car alarm I passed.

Two years ago I decided it was time for her next rebuild. With a wife, two kids, 3 malamutes, and a race car to tow, the old girl wasn't up to it anymore. I tore it down with the intentions of turning her into a crew cab ( http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=327242 ). But after I got her toren down I realized the cab was too solid to cut up. So I rolled her out into the back yard, and found a new cab. Well the crew cab has turned into a long term project, mostly being ignored. I haven't given up on it, but it will be a while before its done.

Last month I decided it was time to put the old '62 back together. I've been without a truck for too long.I felt bad for never painting her, and decided it wouldn't take much to clean her up a little while I put her back together. I know it ain't right, but I'm painting it one piece at a time. It's a sloid color so there is a fair chance it will look ok when I'm done. If I tried to get it all ready for paint at once I know I'd never finish it. Besides it works out great, I can lay down a coat of primer, then while it is drying I can go do some other task in the garage. Return later, and sand a bit, then go fix dinner. Go back and paint a little more, then go to bed. If I were 18 again and had nothing else to do I could paint the whole thing at once, but....

This isn't the first car I've painted. I painted two GTO's, and did a bit of touchup on some other cars, but that was 20 years ago. I did a bunch of reading, and asked some questions on a few forums. (How did we do anything before the internet???) Turns out the expensive Devilbis paint gun I bought back then is not worth using, Bondo is soo much easier to work with, and we never had poly-primer. I ended up buying a couple of new HVLP guns from Harbor Freight, and am absolutly amazed by them. I can't believe how little overspray these new guns put out. I was planning on spending $5-700 on a really nice gun for clear, but I don't know now.

Anyways here are the first pic's of my latest project...

What she used to look like:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...4/IMG_0005.jpg

Inside of the first door:
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...sangerDoor.jpg

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That door looks real nice :thumbs:

I can identify with your situation. Sometimes a guy has to work on something that isn't quite so overwhelming. Then it is a little easier to achieve a sense of accomplishment. Not that big projects are bad, it's just that sometimes a guy needs a break from them.

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That's it. I've been trying to get my kids to help, so between the three of us I'm hoping that seeing some progress every day will help keep us motivated to finish it. The daughter (16) has a Corvair convertible that we have been 'restoring' for 3 years. She works for a while, but gets depressed that nothing is getting done, and goes back in the house.

Anyways here's more pics:
Here's what I started with.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...irrorHoles.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...irrorHoles.jpg

And here it is after the Acid Etch Primer.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...EtchPrimer.jpg


There were 16 holes from the mirrors this thing has had thru its life. The three original had been brazed shut sometime before I got it. Since I'm gonna go back to stock mirrors, I drilled & tapped those, and will put a washer & nut on the backside. The other holes got welded shut, and ground down, with a skim coat of Rage Gold over them.

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Anymore pics of the truck
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Finished blocking the outside of the door after work tonight. Tomorrow it gets sealer and color.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...dyforpaint.jpg

In the meantime, here are some pics of my paint gun. It's a harbor freight Devilbis Finishline 3 copy. I put a 3' hose with a good parker regulator on it and a gauge from Harbor Freights digital flow control, and air filter.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...f/Paintgun.jpg

Here is my home made fresh air mask. It's a generic mask I picked up for about $10 on Ebay, a Home Depot vacuum, some air hose, and a few bits of hardware.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...eshairmask.jpg

I modified the mask with a 90 degree fitting, two 3/8 washers and a fine thread nut on the inside in place of one of the filters. The other filter was blocked off with a 5/16 nut & bolt, and two fender washers. The other end of the hose is attached to a piece of plastic I turned down to fit into the vacuum where the hose is supposed to go. It works great, and cost less than $50
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...askdetails.jpg

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Great idea on the fresh air respirator. I would think the shop vac would blow the mask off of your face, or does it just blow thru the exhale valve?

I've seriously been thinking about some sort of supplied air myself. But the inexpensive ones I've seen on ebay are still $400-500.00. Probably still worth the price when you consider the effects of breathing paint fumes. However your idea is certainly attractive from a cost standpoint.

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Originally I used the 1-1/2" plastic hose from Home Depot, it looked like the vacuum hose. With that I had to drill a couple of 1/2" holes in the hose to let excess air out. The hose was too stiff, and I kept tripping over it. After switching to the air hose, I don't have any extra holes to bleed off pressure, and it seems to be about perfect. Heck for the price I can't see painting without it.

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Do you have much other smell or odor coming from the vac or the air hose?

After I posted that, I got to thinking. That 3/8" air hose probably doesn't move a lot of air.

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That's pretty cool. I wondered about any vac smell as well.

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I don't notice any smell, but the hose and vac are new, and never used for anything else. It does kinda smell like a tire store with all the new rubber :)

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I should have been more specific. I was referring to the smell new plastics and vinyls have sometimes. They can be a little overpowering......almost as bad as the paint vapors you're trying to eliminate.

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Finally got some time in the garage last night. Painted the outside of the door with the blue, then waited 1-1/2 hours (the instructions said 45 minutes to tape), taped it off and shot the white. As I was trying to get the tape off the roll, and cursing my frozen fingers I wondered to myself if it might be too cold to be painting.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...tlooksgood.jpg

At first it looked beautiful, but then I got all the paper off. I guess tonight I get to color sand the blue, and re-shoot it.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...ckup/Awshi.jpg

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For best results, the surface you're painting should be ~60*

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With two propane heaters, and some color sanding, I was able to redeem myself a bit tonight. Just a bit of dust, that I expected.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...up/Finally.jpg

Now the big question... what to work on next. The other door, the fenders, the hood, or the grill? The other door has a few more dents than this one. Both fenders need some rust repair in the lower rear corners. The grill is really rusty, and the hood has a few dents & rust.

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That looks good :thumbs:

I would do the other door. That way you will have both doors done and the paint fully cured when you're ready to put them on the cab.

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I had some other welding to do, so I decided to work on the fenders next. I took the paint off to see just how bad it really was. I'm only using the rear 1/3 of the patch panel. The patch panel didn't match the lip around the wheel too well, so I'm only using what I need. There will be a little longer weld seam to deal with, but I think it will be less work overall.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0211111817.jpg

I cut it a little further forward than originally planned,so I could eliminate one of the two holes.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0211111833.jpg

Looks better already.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0211111852.jpg

But first I need to fix this. Do they make a patch panel for this?
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0211111853.jpg

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If that is the support brace for the rear of the fender, then they sure do! I just ordered a pair myself. These things must be rusted out in 90% of all 60-66 trucks, and the bolt seems to always break off too.

http://www.classicparts.com/1960-66-...ctinfo/44-863/

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Got the replacement brace this morning.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0212111722.jpg

To use the whole piece would be a lot of work, so again I'm going to just use what I need. First I clamped the replacement brace to the patch panel, and scribed a line at the height of the patch panel. Then I layed a steel ruler on the scribe mark, and made another scribed line the width of the ruler below it. I layed the ruler on the old brace, and scribed it the same way. Then cut both. Next I clamped the patch panel in place on the fender, and used it to jig the new brace into the correct location. I tacked it in place before taking the patch panel back off to finish welding the brace.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0212111809.jpg

http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0212111828.jpg

I think I'll take it to the sandblaster next, while he can get inside of everything. Then I'll weld the patch panel in place.

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You are taking that to someone to have it blasted? I see a blast pot sitting right there. Does it not work?

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Ya know, if I was a little smarter there would be a few things I never would have learned to do. Sandblasting being one of them. If you add up the cost of materials, time to do the balasting, then the time to clean up the mess, it's cheaper to find some other sucker to do it for you. :)
I blasted a whole car with that before I learned. Now I only use it for small projects or when I'm in a jam and can't wait for someone else to do it.
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Great progress! I understand having more than one project...I have three!

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I hear that. I've done a good amount of blasting in the past my self. That's why I'm glad that I have a friend that does blasting for a living. We just do trade work, so that makes it easy.

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Got the other fender ready to go to the blasters. At least the rust wasn't so bad on this one.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0214111728.jpg

All clamped and ready to cut.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0214111729.jpg

No wonder it was so heavy, but look at the brace. It looks like I'll be able to use it. There is one hole, but even with that and thining because of the rust, I would rather keep it than replace it. The repro's feel thinner, and the channel section isn't exactly the same. Making it hard to weld onto the existing piece.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0214111750.jpg

Patch fits nice and tight. Just gotta drop off both fenders at the sandblasters, then weld them back together.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0214111800.jpg

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My fender braces were in about the same shape, I ordered new ones and did not like them, totally different profile

I coated the inside of my old ones with por15 before welding the outer patches on, it filled in the pin holes , I poured a bit in and just let it run behind the fender down the channel, be sure to use phosphoric acid before doing any por15..it will not stick unless you do

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Got the fenders, and cowl pieces back from the sand blaster today. Didn't have much time so I started with the easiest piece. Cut a patch out of what was left from the fender patch panels.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0216111734.jpg

Didn't do much planning first, what do people do for an antenna after they plug the hole? Can I just hide the original under the hood? or do they make a special antenna? or am I just outta luck?
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0216111755.jpg

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Had a little more time tonight. So I started on a fender. This seems to be a common problem. All 4 fenders I have are worn from the front bumper in the same way. This one was the worst though.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0217111754.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0217111756.jpg
Not perfect, but a thin coat of filler, and nobody else will know.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0217111804.jpg

Went ahead and painted the inside of the fender braces with POR15 while I could still get to them. I put a hole in the bottom of the braces to let water & mud run out next time. I don't know what GM was thinking when they designed this.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0217111903.jpg

I got one emblem hole welded up too. Now you see it.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0217111836.jpg

Now you don't.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0217111845.jpg

Here's a before pic I found.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...p/IMG_0642.jpg

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Kewl little project ... keep us posted.

Ratty 46

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All I wanted to do today was work on the truck... Yea right. Got up, and the house was freezing. Yup, the oil furnace was out of oil, and you can't get any delivered on a weekend. So it was off to the gas station for 25 gallons of diesel. Then since I had the company pickup I hauled a load of garbage off. Oh yea, why I had the company truck... The throttle linkage in my Corvair broke yesterday at lunch, so I left it at work, and drove the truck home. So I went back to the shop, and fixed the car. Turnes out the mount for part of the linkage had rusted off. Anyhow got it fixed, and by 4:00 I got out to the shop. First thing I did was break my last cutoff wheel, so... off to the store to get some... Finally got all the welding done on the fenders. So tomorrow I get to shoot the DP90 on everything.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0218111748.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0218111849.jpg

and the Passenger side.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0219112035.jpg

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I hate it when I have days like that. Better luck tomorrow.......DP90 huh? Have you ever tried the NCP275? I don't use either anymore, but I had switched to the NCP from the DP series. The NCP doesn't have the isocyanyde and one other chemicle in it. I've found a less expensive epoxy primer that is just as good if not better. It's made by Northstar.

Are you tigging those patches in?

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There are soo many different brands and part numbers of primers, I get overwhelmed trying to figure it all out. I've never used the NCP275 before, just the DP for bare metal primer & sealer. I read a lot about SPI epoxy primer & clear, but they don't have a rep in the area. If I felt more confident about what I was doing, I might order some and try it. But I just went with what the local paint guy recomended. He didn't try to sell me the top of the line on everything, and he sounded like he knew what he was talking about, so I'm trusting his judgment this time. I'll have to check the Northstar brand, maybe there is a rep here in town.

All the panels are TIG welded. I just love how nice & slow I can go with it. I always feel like I'm in a race with the MIG... squeeze & go as fast as I can so it doesn't burn a hole. With the TIG I can melt a drop of filler rod, then heat it up a bit, and flow it into a nice spot weld. So much easier.

Got everything bondo'd...
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0220111426.jpg

I know I'm no Steve Frisbie, but...
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0220111547.jpg
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0220111642.jpg

Nobody will know now :) Heck maybe I should have gone black ???

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Hey like the thread....your doing great...I have my 1969 Z/28 camaro that i bought in pieces when i was in high school....it's getting done again as we speak and this will make the third time around for it. Every time i sit in that seat i lose 40 lbs and 20 yrs....lol. As for more then 1 project at a time, well it happens.....I so get that too..nice meeting you. I will be back to keep a eye on your progress you doing great work over there

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Here is their website. The company is actually Lusid Technologies in Salt Lake City, and one of their brands is Northstar. A friend of mine that does high end body and paint prefers their epoxy primer over other brands. Lusid's chemist told him that the Northstar EP210 epoxy primer was originally designed for use on submarines. So it should be some good stuff. I know I like using it, and it's less $$ than PPG. I've used their polyurethane's as well with good results.

http://www.lusidtechnologies.com/

Your body work is looking good, and you're making nice proogress too.

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Love the holidays.. what was this one anyhow, mattress sale day?
I got an early start. Went out and turned on both propane heaters, then went and had a cup of coffee while the shop warmed up. Got everything primered with Slick Sand.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0221111116.jpg

Even got part of the boys Quarter Midget primed.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0221111124.jpg

After lunch I sanded most of it back off.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0221111523.jpg

Last pic... of work :) Looks just like this morning, everything in a fresh coat of Slick Sand... DOH !!!
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0221111609.jpg

Time to sit back and watch the paint dry. :)
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0221111306.jpg

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Well, got some paint on the fenders
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0224111057.jpg

and cowls. Finally... I had two propane heaters, two electric heaters, and every halogen light I could find. Still not really warm enough. I think the weather is trying to tell me to take the cab apart next. Maybe by the time I get it stripped it will be warm enough to paint again.
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/c...0224111059.jpg

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Hey, Nice job on the fenders and cowl peices. I want to paint my truck in peices like your doing but im worried about the peices not matching when im done. I guess it depends on what color and making sure you use the same amount of coats on each panel plus buying all the paint at the same time. Are you just painting them in your shop or outside? Are you using single stage paint or base coat clear coat?

my 64 C10 build:http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=439559

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I think the biggest influence is whether the paint your using is metalic or not. I chose a non metalic so it should match panel to panel. If it were metalic I wouldn't attempt it, I have seen guys that could, but I'm not one of them. I do hope I got enough paint, as that would probably be more noticable.
It's Omni (PPG's cheap line) base coat clear coat.
Your truck is lookin good. Wish you were closer, I would like that long bed.

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Absolutely beautiful. The workmanship really shows up in the black finish.

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That is some great work man! Very inspiring to see your progress.:metal:

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Those are looking real nice :thumbs:

You must have got your primer issue solved?