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So... do you want gas struts on your barn doors?
I just finished mine. And after seeing how easy it was, I am ashamed at how long it took me to get it done. There is threads on here dedicated to putting gas struts on liftgates (clam shell doors), but I couldnt find anything with info on how to do it to barn doors, so here it is.
Part #'s and prices are at the very bottom of this post. This project only takes about four steps and it will LITERALLY take you less than 30 minutes to do it. (if you had everything ready to go, you could have it done in 10) Mine on the other hand, took about 4 weeks. But, I had to learn a few things and find the right parts to use. SO, you can learn from my experience. So... I have a '70 Burb with the factory sliding mechanisms that hold the doors open. I've gotta say... I've hated these things from day 1. The first scratch I put on my Burb after it was painted was on the barn doors. I had them open and a big wind came along... slammed the right one first and then the left. (the opposite of how they are supposed to close) and it nearly gave me a heart attack when I saw my paint get screwed up. BUT OH WELL... old news. So... STEP 1: Remove those old sliding mechanisms. Its simple. You need a medium sized Phillips screwdriver. There is 2 screws on each end (4 per slide-8 total) http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/04303ece.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/7f82aaeb.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/51666218.jpg STEP 2: Install the 10 mm ball stud x 1/4-20 male thread Ball Studs onto the door and into the roof of the Burb. You can get these from Amazon.com Part Number : BS-142P6 I've looked everywhere and they are TOUGH to find. Unfortunately, I bought the wrong thread size initially from McMaster/Carr. I just had my dad machine them down to 1/4-20. I will tell you ... McMaster-Carr does not sell these in 10mm- 1/4-20... (I checked) You will use the existing holes so there is NOTHING to drill or tap. On the door you use the only hole on the top of the door and on the top of the door frame (underside of the interior roof), you will use the holes CLOSEST to the center on both sides. Tighten the ball studs until they are seated flush. http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/a04e1548.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/3c5d36f3.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/f802d851.jpg an action shot of my mad ratchetin' skills http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/6062197a.jpg STEP 3: Install the gas struts. I used MONROE Part # 901460 Universal Lift Support; 23 Actual Ctr. To Ctr. Extended Length; 40 lbs. Force; This is a UNIVERSAL lift support which will save you a TON of cash. The 40 lbs wont spring the door open when you pop them open, but it is MORE than enough to open it. http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/c00f4b36.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/8bea3c7b.jpg They literally pop right on. I read somewhere that you need to have the skinny part of the strut (or shaft) near the bottom, so the larger part (housing) can lube it everytime it opens and closes. :lol: http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/24cd54ad.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/4130c4e9.jpg http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/15d698af.jpg VIDEO :lol: http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/c...t=25506ea0.mp4 http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...h_25506ea0.jpg STEP 4: Your done. Have a beer and kiss those sliding mechanisms "GOODBYE!" http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/15bc2360.jpg RockAuto.com MONROE Part # 901460 Universal Lift Support; 23 Actual Ctr. To Ctr. Extended Length; 40 lbs. Force; Universal Lift Support 2 of these: Price $13.48 x2 = 26.96 Amazon.com 10MM Ball Stud with 1/4-20 threads for Gas Spring/Prop/Strut (6 Pack) by API Part Number : BS-142P6 You need 4, but they come in a pack of 6 Price: $10.75 Total price for this project 37.71+ shipping by they way... does anyone need a set of these, because I am DONE with 'em. http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/c...0/9dc08fe7.jpg |
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Great write up Jeff...it's about time you got that done.....hope that beer was nice and refreshing:D
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I should've have done it MONTHS ago. It's one of the top 5 "practical" things I have done to it.
I have 4 more gas struts if you want to try them. I had a couple gift certificates for Rock Auto, so I bought 6. I figured 2 for the Burb, 2 for the Blazer and 2 for dads Burb. In Hart Rod's clam shell gas strut conversion thread, he noted the heavier metal liftgate needed a bit more strength to lift his gate. He used struts from a Volvo I think. But when you get vehicle specific struts, they are about double in price. These are universal, so they are cheap. If you get the studs from Amazon, you can try these to see if they will work for you. and yep, the beer was good. While I didn't have to work real hard (at all) to get it, it was a sigh of relief to get rid of those stupid slides. They are a pain in the rear, they are dangerous, and I am lucky I havent busted a taillight with them. BY THE WAY... for anyone reading this thread that is considering doing the same thing to a liftgate/tailgate combo. That thread exists too... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=220511 thanks to Hart Rod... |
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Thank you!!!!!!!!! I too hate my factory mechanisms. Great write up. Looks so easy an Average Joe could pull this off. This deserves a spot in FAQ.
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Thanks! Sad thing is, it took me longer to upload photos and type it out than it did to complete the job. However, as an update... I found that by repeating step 4 a couple times, the project became more fulfilling. haha.
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Those MonroeMax Lift Struts will last as long as you own your Burb. I put a set on my 94 Burb tailgate glass last Winter and they work perfectly ,even in -30 degree weather which we get up here.
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FYI...I'm going to try and get some studs from a 68 truck fuel pedal like Hart_Rod used....we should see if they work on your barn door application too so others will know!!! |
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I found these, it should do the trick.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...1&blockType=G1 http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...2&blockType=G2 |
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Great write-up, Thanks. I have been thinking about doing this with my Blazer.
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My Blazer is next. I've got the struts, just gotta get more ball studs.
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Nice job. A lot of guys are going to benefit from this, including me!
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Wasn't sure till I saw the budlight...:lol:
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good job! I think I will do the same.
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I found these ball studs. Package of 6. Shipping came up at $4.99 for me. http://api-llc.amazonwebstore.com/10...ffId=the005-20 LockDoc |
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Thanks for the great info Jeff. It's now a FAQ and can be found here: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=509544
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Great mod Jeff.... Smitty |
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Nice job and write-up. You have shown me another way to spend more money, but at least it is an inexpensive project.
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I like that a lot! So how would these gas shocks work on the lift glass of a 72 Suburban? That thing is heavy!
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Thanks for the heads up on the thread! If I don't do something soon - I'm sure I will loose an arm one of these days!
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Either option is a great addition (barn doors or liftgate) The ones recommended in the other link are a bit more expensive but we know they will work and support the load. We are going to try the Rock Auto struts on GCBURDIC's Burb and my Blazer to see how good they work on the heavier liftgates. GCBURDIC already has the ball studs. I just have to take him an extra set of the struts I bought. So updates will be coming soon.
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I'm looking for the factory lift for my clam doors any of you that is going to the new set up I'm looking to buy a set of the ones for the Lift gate not the ones for the barn doors
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Don't throw away those old sliders. !5 years from now someone will want to restore a truck and might really want them to be 100% accurate and they'll be even rarer than GMC 1500 V-6 fender emblems.
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Hey Jeff did you use the same strut for a Blazer that you used on your sub. If not do you have a number for the one that fits? Thanks:metal:
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Nice write up Jeff. I remeber having the old slides on my barn door suburban and you're right they are a pain.
Please post the results with the lift gate. If the supports the load I put this setup on my current Burb. |
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Results were positive. My dad did it on his and he said it holds it up good. I haven't seen it myself yet.
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Thanks for the great write-up, did mine in like 6 minutes. Took me longer to find a #2 screwdriver. I got my struts on Amazon for like $12 bucks total.
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This is an awesome fix. If you don't mind a Burb guy from the 60-66 forum asking, has anyone tried this on an earlier generation Burb? From what I can tell in the images it looks like it would work. For $12 bucks I may just risk it and give it a try. I'm not sure if my barn door sliders are the same as the 67-72 style, but mine suck too. Thanks.
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Great Idea!
Now all I have to do is find a case of bud light and a Burb. :lol: |
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Great write up, I just ordered mine! I am so tired of those old tracks that hold the door open, well try to hold the door open.
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Well... if you didn't already know, my Burb gets used (and moderately abused) HAHA! :metal:
I broke a ball stud this weekend while loading firewood in the back for a camping trip. With that said, my struts only have about 40 lbs of lifting force and they broke the stud by opening too quickly. Use caution when opening. haha! I guess I will be buying another ball stud this week. (I actually need 5 because I am ready to do this mod to my blazer) |
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need a way to do this on my 88 thnks for the idea
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this is a great idea for my 63 burb...thank for doing this write up
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