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burlapen 02-08-2010 03:34 AM

Building and rebuilding my grandpa's 63
 
Alright....I guess it's just about time I start a build thread. I've been lurking around for quite awhile getting inspiration. I'd like to share what I've got going so far.

So here goes the backstory on grandpa's 63 Chevy C10. My grandfather's best friend bought this pickup new in 1963. One year later he decided to "upgrade" to a 3/4 ton and traded the pickup back to the dealership where my grandpa bought it from. I guess they did the whole deal through the dealership for financing reasons.

Grandpa rocked this pickup from 1964 all the way until 1989 when he decided it was finally time for a new one. He still drives the 89 today, that's the kind of guy he is. The man has owned three vehicles in the last 45 years.

The 63 worked out great for him. It was a long bed equipped with the 292 "high torque" and the SM420 4 speed transmission. It served as his daily driver, camping rig, tow truck, hunting rig, you name it. It went cross country a few times and even up to Canada. I remember all of the early morning fishing and hunting trips we took in the old pickup. The square cut gears whining away and the host of any given AM talk radio show rambling on about things a 10 year old has no interest in. To my left my sat my grandfather, one hand steadily sawing back and forth on the great big steering wheel while the other pulled on the tall black shifter handle in front of me surely pulling the clunky trans into the next gear as the engine grunted to pull the weight of the pickup up the next grade. To my right sat my father, talking with grandpa about the things men talk about, how to make a dovetail joint, the proper grit sandpaper to use, how to wire a garbage disposal or the time my uncle shot one horn off of a deer.

I remember the noises and smells of the old pickup as and the impressions the seat would make on my skin as my 10 year old self would fade in and out of sleep because it was so early the sun had yet to show itself.

The old pickup served well until as I mentioned it was relieved by a new model in 1989. My uncle drove her for a year or so until a bent pushrod put her out of commission behind grandpas cabin in the foothills.

Years passed until my uncle, with some prodding from grandpa, agreed to let me have a crack at getting the old pickup up and running again. So at the end of deer season around 2005. The old pickup was loaded up onto a flatbed and drug down the hill to my house.

I was so excited to get my hands on it and I wasted no time tearing into it to get it back on the road. I replaced a couple of pushrods and rebuilt the carb. I changed the plugs and points, cleaned out the gas tank, replaced the hoses and viola, the pickup was alive once again.

I drove it that way for a couple of years. The pickup was once again serving all around duty. Towards the end of 2007 I decided it was time to give the drivetrain a once over. I picked up a 383 V8 shortblock from an old friend of mine, I added some new heads and a cam. I purchased a 72 c10 for a parts donor for the V8 swap. I had to stay out of town for over half of 2008 which meant by the time I got the pickup back together it had sat for around one year. While I was doing the motor swap, I painted the firewall the original green and did an all around cleanup of the engine compartment. I upgraded the cooling system with an aluminum radiator and new fan clutch. I had some new dual exhaust built and when the 12 bolt decided to eat a tooth off of the ring gear, I rebuilt it and swapped in some 3.08's in place of the steep gears required with the 6 cylinder.

That's how It was until a few weeks ago. I had been meaning to get the rest of the body work done and get the thing painted for some time. A couple of months ago grandpa was diagnosed with cancer. Seeing him go through bouts of chemotherapy has really lit a fire under my rear to get this thing done.

I know this is a long read, but bare with me. I hope to really get the ball rolling with the old pickup even if it means redoing some of the work I have already done. I'll let the pictures do the talking from here. Thanks for listening.

burlapen 02-08-2010 03:38 AM

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My uncle at the cabin with the old pickup circa the early 70's

burlapen 02-08-2010 03:45 AM

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The pickup after its original revival still equipped with the big 292.
It received the brown repaint sometime in the late 70's.

burlapen 02-08-2010 03:56 AM

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Here we go with the rebuild, 292 out to reveal a crusty engine compartment.

Sorry for the quality, some of these pics are from my phone.

burlapen 02-08-2010 04:05 AM

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fresh 383 sitting in the repainted engine compartment.

What is the correct engine color for a V8 in these things anyway.

burlapen 02-08-2010 04:11 AM

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Who's that handsome guy?

burlapen 02-08-2010 04:14 AM

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Up and running. Thats an air cleaner off one of my Mopars, its all I had.

burlapen 02-08-2010 04:30 AM

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Tearing down for a full rebuild

burlapen 02-08-2010 04:44 AM

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these are from the latest rebuild

burlapen 02-08-2010 04:48 AM

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This is where we stand as of today.

I guess thats all for now. Hope to get back out tomorrow and get more done.

dieselarmy13 02-08-2010 05:44 AM

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Cool truck with a cool story behind it. Sorry to hear about your Grandpa. Looking forward to seeing more of this truck.

jonzcustomshop 02-08-2010 10:00 AM

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nice truck, love that vintage pic.
here ia a nice pic of a restored correct engine, in a 65.

DPowers 02-08-2010 10:09 AM

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Those are great memeories- may you continue to make them.

burlapen 02-08-2010 02:59 PM

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Thanks for the replies everyone. I need some help on the next decision. I have been going back and forth wether or not to convert this into a short bed. I do feel like the short would look a little better visually and I was hoping to give it a somewhat "muscle truck" vibe. I would ultimately like it to be able to handle well and accelerate like crazy but look stock at a glance. The long bed has been useful over the years, but the truck will be doing less time as a work truck and more just for fun usage from now on. Im sure everyone has an opinion on this issue, I'm just trying to figure out where I stand with it :-)

Bugeyev8 02-10-2010 11:02 AM

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Greetings from Ca too !! sweet old truck , I would leave it a long bed, I have gone back and forth myself but decided on leaving mine long bed,, with the right stance and rear bumper they look great!! I have a 62 custom long bed fleetside that my grandpa bought in 62-63 too, I have had it for 24 years myself and am just getting to a rebuild now, I drove it for the last 20 years and its been upgraded alot but...now I want it to be nice

4dranch 02-10-2010 07:47 PM

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Very cool story with your rig. thanks for sharing.
I love me some long bed trucks.



Ooh and as for the short bed question.....

burlapen 02-19-2010 05:34 AM

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Not a whole lot of progress but some... I got the inner fenders and radiator support removed. Spent some time just organizing the garage and parts to wrap my head around where I'm at with the project. I had to spend some time working on the old dodge this weekend, the steering box was leaking so I swapped in a manual box that required some column modifications. Anyway, here are a couple of pics.

When I was swapping the motor last time I noticed the lower radiator support was bent up pretty bad. I couldn't find a straight one anywhere so I cut a thick piece of angle iron and it seems to have worked just fine.

burlapen 02-19-2010 05:44 AM

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This is the Flaming River steering coupler installed on the Dodge.

Also this is the seat from the pickup. It was recovered in the 70's and is still in pretty darn good shape. I love the styling.

burlapen 02-19-2010 05:48 AM

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The main thing I am up in the air about on the project now is the transmission. I would like to keep in manual but the SM420 is way to loud and impossible to shift quickly. I was looking at some of the TKO's but they are pricey and I have heard the shifting is a bit notchy. Engine should make around 500 HP when all is said and done.

burlapen 02-19-2010 05:54 AM

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wall o' parts

OARNGESI 02-19-2010 06:31 AM

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Nice truck with a really cool story

burlapen 02-27-2010 02:00 AM

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Thanks for all of the replies everyone. Not much progress but every little bit counts. I got the steering column removed and the cab ready to come off. Planning to hopefully get some serious progress this weekend. Seems like the other cars have been getting in the way of making any progress on the pickup lately. I don't own a new car (except for the wife's), I drive old junk which means I usually have to keep at least two of them running in case one breaks down :cool: . I really should probably look into getting a "reliable" car, but I love my old junk. Anyway here are some pictures.

The last two pictures should give a hint as to what's coming next. I stopped by Early Classics which is only a couple miles from my house and picked up a set of their frame stiffeners.

burlapen 02-27-2010 02:07 AM

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I have basic pricing laid out for the rest of the project. I know there is some serious stuff I am forgetting but it basically looks like this:

New trans : $1000
Heads/Cam/Intake: $1000
Ball Joints: $100
Shocks/Springs: $300
Dash Wiring Harness: $250
Weather Stripping: $250
Front Brakes (calipers, lines, mc and booster): $400
Bed Kit : $400
New module for Dist : $75
Headers: $200
Driveline : $150
Rhino line inside of bedsides: $150

I know there is a ton I am forgetting, but that is quite a bit to deal with for now.

Probably going to sell my 65 Dart GT to help finance some of this. We'll see.

Joemomma1 02-27-2010 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by burlapen (Post 3788130)
Thanks for the replies everyone. I need some help on the next decision. I have been going back and forth wether or not to convert this into a short bed. I do feel like the short would look a little better visually and I was hoping to give it a somewhat "muscle truck" vibe. I would ultimately like it to be able to handle well and accelerate like crazy but look stock at a glance. The long bed has been useful over the years, but the truck will be doing less time as a work truck and more just for fun usage from now on. Im sure everyone has an opinion on this issue, I'm just trying to figure out where I stand with it :-)

SHORT, SHORT, SHORT! Dont listen to those guys, theyre trying to compensate, thus the liking of the long bed ;). I had a long but now its a short. At first it was no big deal but after seeing so many nice short beds hows a long bed to compete? Go short youll never regret it. "Hey thats nice,oh..its a long bed." Tell me you never said/thought that before. Clovis huh? Gotta see this thing in person when done.

Alan's Classic 02-27-2010 08:09 AM

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:welcoem: and :hi: Cool story and great progress. Keep this one long and get you another truck that is a short bed. ;) That way you will have 2 trucks. :metal:

burlapen 03-01-2010 01:42 AM

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Well my brother in law came over and we made some progress on Old Bessie today. I made the decision to go ahead and go shortbed. I know some love the longbed, but I believe the short is a better choice for what I am doing with this build. So, here it goes....

burlapen 03-01-2010 01:47 AM

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I chose to cut at a 45* angle and use the ECE frame stiffeners. I cut each stiffener down by about 2" on the length. Big thanks to my brother Ant for dragging his welder over and burning his saturday working on my crusty old frame.

kizer 03-01-2010 06:30 PM

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Looks like your left rear is a little low on air. ;)

Man another long bed gone over to the dark side. Oh well in the end their will be only one. That's mine, yeah that's it.

I like your creative stacking for your parts. Kinda gave me an idea or two.

burlapen 03-08-2010 02:41 PM

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Well, I made some more progress this weekend. I got the cab entirely stripped down. I also picked up some furniture dollys for $9 at Harbor Freight that work great for rolling the cab around. My favorite helper (my son) was out and did some pressure washing for me. I also removed the motor and trans off of the frame and dropped the front crossmember. Funny it doesnt seem like much on paper, but it took me the better part of a day and a half. Anyway, here are some picks. Oh yeah, I picked up a t5 at the junkyard on friday. It is out of a Camaro so i still need to find an S-10 tailhousing to swap.

burlapen 03-08-2010 02:42 PM

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More

burlapen 03-08-2010 02:48 PM

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I have been trying hard to work quickly. Grandpa is in San Francisco right now, he had to have yet another surgery and they still aren't sure if they got all of his cancer. He had some pretty violent psychological reactions to the medicines they were giving him but his head seems to be in the right place since they have cut the meds back. Please keep him in your prayers if you are so inclined. I know it seems kind of pointless in the big picture, but I really would like to get the old pickup back together to at least let him have one drive in it all fixed up..... like 1963 all over again. Thanks.

Alan's Classic 03-08-2010 09:40 PM

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Nice work and progress and yes your Granddad will be in my prayers.

burlapen 03-22-2010 12:39 PM

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Here is my latest update....I'm feeling pretty overwhelmed by how far apart the pickup is right now. The bed is currently sectioned and awaiting welding. It looks awful short after looking at the longbed so many years. Having the bed cut in pieces makes me a bit nervous because my welding skills are minimal and I have never attempted to weld something that thin together then hide it. I am also having a bit of trouble figuring out how I am going to ensure the whole thing is straight. The cuts went fairly straight but the gap I need to weld definitely needs to be touched up. The metal is touching in some spots with gaps in others. To change the pace a little I started sanding on the cab, I wire wheeled/stripped all of the channels for the weather stripping, the started sanding and realized maybe I should look into having the cab stripped professionally. I have a couple of calls in for quotes on soda blasting. I couldn't find anyone local that does chemical dipping. If the quotes are too high I may just get the Harbor Freight soda blaster and start hitting it although I think this would eat up just about as much time as stripping it by hand. :waah: Sorry for the rant, I may just need a good weekend with some buddies over to work to kick this project in the butt!!

Im having to try really hard to not put the pickup on hold to work on another project that is actually running for a bit.

aerotruk63 03-23-2010 07:04 PM

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Looks like a fun family project.

burlapen 05-19-2010 03:55 PM

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I'm very sad to say that my grandfather has lost his battle with cancer. He went to be with the Lord last week. Haven't had much time to work on his old pickup. I did get the bed shortening just about done, just some final cleanup welding left. Going through grandpas stuff, he had some awesome old pics of the pickup from the 60's 70's and 80's. He was a great man who always had a kind word and the patience of a saint. You will be missed grandpa.

Here is a pic circa 1966. Pretty sure thats my father petting the dog.

Hopefully I can get the pickup body out to the blaster soon and get this thing rolling again. Thanks to those of you who had been praying after my earlier post.

gtbrain 05-19-2010 05:04 PM

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Sorry about the loss of your Grandpa. Something special about those old boys. I would give anything to have one more hour with my Grandpa telling me a story he had told me probably ten times before....

irish1966 05-20-2010 03:00 PM

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"Don't cry because it's over. Smile that it happened" Dr. Seuss

Sorry to hear about your grandpa. Mine is fighting old age back in Ireland and I only wish I had something to work on and restore in his memory. I'd get a copy of that pic and put it in your Sun visor. Every day the sun shines in ur eyes you will drop that visor and he'll be there. Keep up the good work.

burlapen 07-19-2010 03:55 PM

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Nothing happening on the pickup lately. Just wanted to let everyone know I'm still around. Work has been keeping me plenty busy lately but I intend to get back on it very soon. It's tough to get motivated when there is no money to spend on a project. Also it seems like I have to have a couple people over to help lift and move things around every time I want to work. Hope everyone else's projects are moving along. Going to move the frame back in the garage to get it painted hopefully in the next couple days. God Bless.

burlapen 08-13-2010 04:26 PM

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Got a little work done over the last week. I've been wire wheeling on the frame prepping for paint. Also, I bought some chemical stripper at Lowes and got to work on the cab. I have about half of it to bare metal at this point. Kinda slower going than I thought. The process goes something like this : apply stripper, allow to work for 15-20 minutes, scrape with putty knife, then hit with wire wheel. Repeat process 2-3 times to remove all of the paint. I have some vacation time coming up in which I hope to get the frame painted and rolling again. If I get real ambitious I may get the cab body work done!!

Here are some pics of the stripper I used and the cab as it sits now.

Bugeyev8 08-13-2010 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by burlapen (Post 4137476)
Got a little work done over the last week. I've been wire wheeling on the frame prepping for paint. Also, I bought some chemical stripper at Lowes and got to work on the cab. I have about half of it to bare metal at this point. Kinda slower going than I thought. The process goes something like this : apply stripper, allow to work for 15-20 minutes, scrape with putty knife, then hit with wire wheel. Repeat process 2-3 times to remove all of the paint. I have some vacation time coming up in which I hope to get the frame painted and rolling again. If I get real ambitious I may get the cab body work done!!

Here are some pics of the stripper I used and the cab as it sits now.


I have used that stripper before and found that true Jasco is far better, when you use the stripper use some plastic wrap over it and it will keep the stripper wet and work longer, sorry to hear about your grandpa...cancer is not easyfor anyone, my mom was diagnosed last year, its been a hard year for everyone involved


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