Wing or vent window rebuild
I am finally getting around to getting this together. For now it will just be the teardown. I will finish up mine and post some pics of the steps taken hopefully within a week. If you can't wait til I do that, just reverse the tear down. I'm not going to list part numbers because there are several vendors that carry the items needed.
Parts needed Vent window rebuild kit (it comes with the rivet tool) Window/door weatherstrip kit (it's generally cheaper to get everything together) New vent window latch (if needed) I will leave the tool choices up to you. Most important is to make sure the pin that is in the glass channel that the latch pivots on is in good shape and not missing. As of right now there is not a repair kit for it. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00436.jpg Step 1 Remove roll pin from latch handle and remove handle and spring washer (picture above) and inspect pivot. Step 2 Measure how far the stud sticks out from the nut. Then spread out lock washer. Notice the placement of washers. The flat part of the top washer that is like a triangle goes towards the front. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00437.jpg http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00439.jpg Step 3 Drill out pivet rivot http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00440.jpg This is the placement of hardware (Pay attention to orientation make notes. Be sure you install everything right before you install the pivot rivot. If the washers are not installed correctly the window will not open right.) http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00441.jpg Step 4 Grab the top of the window and pull it out of the track. I've been told by Tim Christian that all of the glass from 60-67 does not have a hole in it where the lever goes. 68 and up has a hole with the lever pivot pin goes thru the glass. I've removed 5 glasses and they all come out easy since the rubber is dry rotted. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00442.jpg Step 5 Remove rubber from channel that holds glass in. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00444.jpg Step 6 Remove the main vertical weatherstrip that the door glass goes up and down in. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00448.jpg Drill 4 rivets on the vertical rubber and remove. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00445.jpg Step 7 Remove the rubber that the glass seals against. Grab one end and pull out. It comes out pretty easy depending on how dry rotted it is. Nothing holds it in place except for itself. The rubber squeezes into the channel. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00446.jpg Step |
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EDIT: go to post 69 for the second one I did. The weatherstrips were installed in a different order. Feel free to read thru the rest of the post, just want to inform you of what worked best for me.
This a picture of the rivet tool. The short one came in my kit. I had one already that was longer and seems to work alot better. It's easier to hold on too. Getting a straight shot on the rivet is really a challenge, but can be done. I had even thought about removing the hoop from the verticle bar just to install the 4 rivets the reinstall the hoop. I have not tried that yet. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00416.jpg http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00418.jpg I cleaned, primed and painted one of my frames http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00410.jpg I then taped it up to protect the paint. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00415.jpg I mounted the punch in the vise to back up the rivet while I used the rivot tool to flare the rivet. It is a 2 person job. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00420.jpg http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00419.jpg http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00422.jpg This is what I did wrong on my first one. I installed the short verticle piece first Don't do that install the rubber around the hoop first. Then install the short piece. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00421.jpg Done so I thought. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00431.jpg I thought there was a repair kit for the handle pivot. I even thought I had it. I was wrong. I have to replace the glass frame. http://i606.photobucket.com/albums/t...d/DSC00434.jpg |
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Thanks for the pictures Alan. I just replaced both all the window regulators , rubbers and felts on my '64 in May. I found that a piece of 3/8 wide steel flat bar in the vise lengthwise was a helping hand and an anvil. I was never quite happy with the set tool. There has to be a better way.The hinge pivot rivet is maddening!! PS; you can spray undercoating inside your door frames while your window is out and your arm will fit in!!
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Thanks. Good thread.:ito:
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Nice work Alan, and thanks for diving in first!:clap: My vents are starting to look better the way they are:lol:....J/K.....I've had the stuff to do this for years and will be doing it this summer.
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On that spring picture I think I can actually see the rust molecules.:lol:
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Alan -I started the rivet with the set tool, then 1 hit with a big center punch to flare it out, the finished it with 1 hit using a ball punch to tighten it up. All finished tight and recessed back in the felts, but I sure wish I had a clamp or something that held both sides and could be hit with a BFH on the anvil. Something like a blacksmith's swedge block. Maybe even a C-clamp which tightened, spreading and flattening the rivet.
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Thank you!! I was trying to figure this out. I want to chrome that metal piece but could not figure it out. Thanks.
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Thanks for the great write up Alan!
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As always, your post deserves a sticky. Great job Alan!! :clap:
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Great post, exactly what I just did on my 61...'cept I chopped mine down 3 inches in the process:lol:
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Nice work Alan...Great pics !!!
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THANK YOU, ALAN!
This is exactly the thread I was looking for. Joe - again, take note of the real photographs, and, go to Wal-Mart: two Fugi cameras for less than nine bucks. Mac.:chevy: (PS - Alan, I'd give you some more points, but the system won't let me.) :lol: |
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(PS - Alan, I'd give you some more points, but the system won't let me.) :lol:[/QUOTE] X2....I just keep rating your threads excellent. |
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Lookin good Alan.... When I did mine I just used pop rivits. They also work but not factory.
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Got my other window frames sandblasted today at work. Once I get them painted I'll do a write up on putting them back together. |
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If you are doing alot of these this is the tool we sell and use to set the revits. If doing just one its not worth the money but they do a profesional job.
cuts time to do to seconds not minutes. |
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so when you buy the rivets it comes with the pivot rivet :lol:
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Alan, what kind of paint and primer did you use. Also, what did you do about the strike plate for the latch handle while painting? did you leave it and tape it off or take it off?
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Alan, can you get me dimensions on the pin you are talking about? I can probably machine one up at school.
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Of course. No reason to set the damn machine up over and over again...lol
I'd be happy to do it too... It'd be the closest thing I have to kids runnin around besides my dog. |
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nice job alan !! i have rebuilt afew these my self but just used a revit gun.it was not the best way,but this is good help, and i think am going to get one of those tools thanks dino
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Good stuff Alan.
I had to do most of that when I got my truck, as the bottom pivot rod where the spring goes was broken off when I first got it. I had it welded back on, twice... since I wasn't sure which way that piece fit back on. That bottom rod has a stop on it, to make sure it only turns so far. I now have the pieces to do the rubber around the vent windows and the rivets. Thanks a lot for taking the time to take photos of everything, I know how aggravating that can be sometimes. -W |
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That's not my dog. My dog would never use intravenous drugs.
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I wonder how much interest there would be in someone to rebuild these and the '67-'87 ones also....maybe I need to start up a side gig......now that Alan has showed me how ;)
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Nice job Alan.
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TTT for the new comers
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Good info.... I was researching for a 'how to' on the web & came across this thread.
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I still have to rebuild one more when I have time someday. I'll have to refer back to this to see how I did it. LOL |
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Good post, I'm gonna have to rebuild mine so I'm bookmarking this one. Thanks
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I've been working on the other side this week... nice to review.
I'm pretty sure there will still be some cussin' involved this evening. -W |
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Great write up and pictures this is one of those post that I want to hang on too
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