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Crash's 69 K10
Hello, thought I would introduce my project. I am starting on a ground up restore of my 1972 K10. I purchased the K10 Thursday night and have driven it about 250 miles. I feel comfortable with the mechanical side of the restore (although I am not sure which direction I will be taking). The truck runs and drives good for a 40 year truck, but the body is rough with some bad rust in places. I am a newbie when it comes to bodywork and paint. I am hoping some of you will be able to lead me down the right path when it comes to those areas.
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Thats a pretty good start for 3 days. I suppose the tare down goes pretty quick, it's the reassembly that takes longer. Good luck on the project.
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Thanks Jayman.. That was all done today... I am very sore.. :-) And yes you are right it will take much longer to put it back together..
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Looks great. I posted a message concerning how the rear bumper attaches to the frame on a leaf spring suspension and I see you have one. Do you have picture of how the rear bumper bracket attaches to the frame?
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Sunday I finished the tear down and started the clean up process.
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looks cool bud
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:smoke:my wifes from altus
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You have a sick truck, LB or not, it's a SB now and that's all that matters. Although LB K10's look sweet when they're lifted. Congrats on the frame off, I'm sure it will look sick when you're done with her. You asked for feedback in regards to the diff's. What are your plans with her? Any off-roading? Or will she be a sick K10? This will determine what the diff's call for. I use to rock craw and wheel the heck out of my K10, so she had a built D44 with an ARB chromoly axles, cross over and high steer with PSC hydraulic assist and 4.10's up front, (Brand new D60 in the garage waiting to be dropped in) 14BFF with detroit locker out back. Did awesome off-road, wouldn't need any or all of this if she won't be heavily wheeled.
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Thanks, I hope it all turns out well. Wow, sounds like you have quite a setup. Good look with the axle swap. I was really looking for some advice on prepping the frame, but since you asked about the diffs, my plans are to leave them stock. I will be using the truck to pull the boat in and out of the water, and maybe some light off-roading. I had hoped to only replace the seals but both diff's have some slack in the pinion area, so I will have to fix that. I am not sure what they will need, (bearings??) bit I hope to tear them down this weekend. |
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Time for an update, yesterday I spent the day building a work table to work off of. I had something similar over 20 years ago when I was a mechanic at the local NAPA. It was great for rebuilding transmission and Transfer Cases.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240256.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240255.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240254.jpg Today I finished up the work table and started on the rear axle. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240257.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240260.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240262.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240266.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240279.jpg Not sure what this was. There was one on each side of the axle. I guess I will cut them off and clean up the axle. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240282.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240283.jpg This does not look good. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240288.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240290.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240293.jpg Something hit here at one time. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240295.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240296.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240299.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240301.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240303.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB240305.jpg I could not found where the loose metal came from. I can only assume something happened to the differential at an earlier time and it was not cleaned up well. It looks like I will need to replace the ring, pinion, and bearings. |
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Sweet table, I've had the same issue before, where you find shrapnel and can't pin point where it's from. Look at it this way, once you finish the diff's, you'll be confident that they will hold up to what you throw at them.
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I've always ran Yukon gears from Randy's Ring & Pinion, they ship quick and cheap. Prices have always been reasonable and they're made in the US.
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Today, I started very early (5:00am), in order to watch some college football. Today’s goal was to remove and tear down the DANA 44 front axle. I finished up around 11:00 (had to make a trip to town for a few tools).
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260308.jpg Still very dark outside… http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260310.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260315.jpg On the table… http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260316.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260317.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260318.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260320.jpg This is reusable I believe. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260321.jpg This too… http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260322.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260323.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260326.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB260327.jpg Looks like I have ran out of things to remove from the frame. This week I will start ordering parts.. Ring and Pinion, seals, bearings, etc. Also, new bushings for the springs. I guess I will order some POR15 to protect everything with. |
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When you order the gears, just order a master install kit for each axle. The kit will have everything needed for install. X2 on randy's.
On the frame, you can wire wheel it if you have the time. POR = paint over rust. Good start on the truck! |
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Work completed on Sunday - Cleanup of the transfer case and transmission.
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Decided to clean the engine up a little, even though I will not be using it on this project.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB300351.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB300352.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB300354.jpg Picked up a used press for the differential rebuilds. It will also be used on the ball joints, spring bushings, etc. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB300353.jpg Picked up some cheap tools from Harbor Freight. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PB300349.jpg Built up the 12 bolt today http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC030358.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC030359.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC030364.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC030365.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC030367.jpg Tomorrow, I will start on the DANA 44 rebuild if I can found some inner axle seals. If not I may get the sand blaster rigged up and clean up the shop. I bought a used Texas Blaster Yesterday. https://www.texasblaster.com/pics/22-m.jpg I have never used one before, so I am open to any ideas on how use it. |
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Looks good so far man.
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Sunday, I decided to clean up a little in the shop and get the frame ready for sand blasting.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040368.jpg Put the soon to be sold 350 on a engine cradle and moved it out of the way. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040369.jpg Also, moved the TH350 out of the way. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040371.jpg 12 Bolt ready for paint. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040373.jpg Dana 44 on the table ready to start the buildup. (next Saturday) http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040377.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040379.jpg Got the frame mounted up to the engine stands http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040380.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040381.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040388.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040390.jpg Cross member had been pulled loose on the passenger side at one time and weld in the wrong place, 4 inches forward. Cut the welds loose and pulled it back in place and re-welded. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040382.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040383.jpg Also cut of some jacked up front bumper plates. It took some time, but everything looks better now. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040393.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC040392.jpg I only get to work on the truck on the weekends. This weekend I hope to get the Dana 44 rebuilt and ready to remount to the frame. |
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Installed all new bearings and setup the differential on the DANA 44 today. I created setup bearings for the carrier bearings and a setup race for the inner pinion race. This made the process much easier. Unlike the 12 bolt that I setup last week, the DANA took multiple iterations to get the pinion depth and backlash correct. Unfortunately I did not take time to get pictures of the setup.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100396.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100397.jpg After I buttoned the differential up, I started on the ball joints. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100399.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100402.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100403.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100405.jpg Knuckles installed http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100408.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100410.jpg Left Hub and rotor installed. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100412.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100413.jpg I couldn’t do the right hub, there was some damage from some event in the past. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100414.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC100415.jpg I am considering going with a disc brake setup in the rear. Not sure yet, but will research it some tonight. Tomorrow, if it warms up enough I will do some painting on the axles, if not I will get rigged up for sand blasting. |
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Setup the sandblaster today, and started on some of the smaller stuff. Nasty job, wish I had someplace close to take everything and have it done. Overall I had good results, but very messy, and expensive (Media).
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110419.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110421.jpg Had blasting media everywhere, glad I decided to do it outside. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110426.jpg I also pressed the bushings out of all four springs. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110422.jpg After that I started on the spring bushing in frame.. It took some time. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110423.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110425.jpg But I got them out.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110428.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110429.jpg I also removed the engine and transmission crossmembers.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC110431.jpg First thing in the morning, I will go to the tractor supply to pick up some more blasting media, and start blasting the frame. |
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Today I started sandblasting the frame. Damn nasty job, I almost wish I had hired it done. The dust gets everywhere..
Rolled the frame outside and got started. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120437.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120438.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120439.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120441.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120443.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120446.jpg The engine stand made it easy to roll frame to get into tight spots. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120447.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120448.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120449.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120450.jpg As I was finishing up, it started raining.. All finished and back in the shop. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120453.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120454.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120456.jpg Depending on the weather, I hope to start the paint on the frame tomorrow.. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC120458.jpg Glad that is finished… |
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Looking good.Keep pictures coming & keep on truckin' :metal:
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It was too humid to paint with the POR15 today, so I decided to clean the frame up even more. First I removed some old brackets. Then I decided I would box the area where the LB to SB conversion was done. First step was to create some templates out of cardboard.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130460.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130461.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130462.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130463.jpg Then I transferred the temple shape to some 3/16” plate and cut them pieces out using my hand grinder and some cutoff wheels. It took about 25 minutes to cut pieces out and trim them to size. After that I welded them into place. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130467.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130468.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130469.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130470.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130471.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130472.jpg After that I figured I should degrease the frame, I had handled it with grease gloves during the cleanup and boxing. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130473.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130474.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130475.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130476.jpg I also degreased and prepped the axles for paint. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC130464.jpg Back to work tomorrow, but I hope to be back to the shop Thursday to finally start the paint on the frame. |
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Started on the frame paint today, two coats of POR 15 so far. Tomorrow I will put a coat of the POR Chassis Black on the frame.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150477.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150478.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150479.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150482.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150486.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150492.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150493.jpg I also painted the axles, springs, and some other items. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150483.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150484.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150485.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150487.jpg While I was waiting on the frame to dry, I put the backing plates, hub and rotors on the DANA 44. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150487.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150488.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150490.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC150491.jpg Tomorrow I will top coat with the POR chassis black. And then continue the work on the DANA 44 and 12 bolt axles. |
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subscribed Great idea on the table, I am getting to old to do work on the garage floor. Plus if you spill your beer just go grab another.
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Started off the day with finishing up the DANA 44; mounted the calipers, and then installed the manual hub locks.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160497.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160502.jpg Then I installed the 12 bolt brakes and hubs. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160498.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160499.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160500.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160503.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160504.jpg When I tore down the transfer case it was full of ATF, so I pulled the bearing out of the transmission to transfer case and checked the seals. One of them was messed up http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160505.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160506.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160510.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160511.jpg. Then I cleaned up the steering sector. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160512.jpg All I am waiting on now is the front spring bushings and the rear lift blocks ( the old ones were rusted out, homemade at of 2” tubing) and U-bolts. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160514.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160515.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC160516.jpg Tomorrow, I start the search for a 5.3L and 4L60e with all the stuff needed for the swap. |
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Today I final got the axle and springs mounted to the frame. The truck had lift blocks on the rear axle. I believe they were home built out of 2” sq. tubing. They were rusting from the inside out, so I decided to install real lift bolts in their place.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200517.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200518.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200519.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200520.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200529.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200530.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200531.jpg After that I installed the front Spring Bushings and bolted the springs to the frame and then the axle to the springs. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200521.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200522.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200523.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200524.jpg [IMG]http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll2/mneese_photo/1972%20K10%20Project/PC200525.jpg[/IMG http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200526.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200527.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200528.jpg Feels good to have everything bolted back up.. Over $2000 invested in the frame; New ring and pinion, bearings, seals, ball joints, tie rods, paint, lift blocks, brakes, calipers, wheel cylinders, Hub, rotors, etc.. I started on the new brake lines. Hope to finish tomorrow. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC200535.jpg I have a line on a 5.3L and 4l60e. 2005 with 80K for $1500. This will include Radiator, Computer, wiring harness, Gas Pedal, Transmission Lines, all accessories, head pipes past the O2 sensors, etc.. Not sure if this is a good deal or not.. I guess I should look around a little more… |
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Love this build... really like the work table you built. Give us a dimensions and materials
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Great job. I'm currently building a 72 K10 as well. Going to be a daily driver. Haven't got into quite the depth as you, yours looks great!! Maybe we can compare notes as we have the same truck and are about at the same stage of the build.
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Re: Crash's 72 K10
Yesterday I sand blasted the engine cross member, transmission cross member, transfer case brackets, drive shafts, and the radiator support.
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC210542.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC210543.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC210544.jpg After that I worked some more on the brake lines. Mine were routed outside of the frame; however, I believe it should be routed inside. http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC210537.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC210538.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC210539.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC210540.jpg http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/l...t/PC210541.jpg After sandblasting the radiator support I found a few cracked places. Today I will weld those up and start painting with the POR15. Waiting on some pictures of the 5.3L that I am thinking of using. |
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