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Zoomin 07-01-2016 11:34 PM

69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
When I bought this little gem back in 92, it was Lemans Blue with a white vinyl top, a non-original 350 2bbl backed by a powerglide and an open rear end. I bought it from the original owners who decided to sell it as it was becoming more ncreasingly difficult to make the drive from OK to MT to visit their daughter.

I drove the car as I purchased it for a few years and my son drove it to high school for a couple years before heading off to college, when I decided to repossess it. It had drum brakes on all corners and I decided to change the front drums to disk. Turns out I was about to learn a lesson about "may as well" disease is, first hand - the documented falling domino syndrome where project creep rapidly expands because it's so much easier to do things while you have things apart.

Well, the project didn't end until it had disk brakes on all four corners. A 9" rear with posi, connected to an aluminum headed 454 and TH400 tranny, Coddington Timeless 17" wheels. All in a brand new sparkling black paint job.

That little project took 4 years to complete and I enjoyed going to shows with it, but it turns out that while it was pretty fun to drive it a straight line, it had other issues like heeling over like a bulldog at a fire hydrant. I really hadn't paid too much attention to handling. It was also pretty thirsty which ruled out any Power Tour activities.

I have since completed a few other projects and the Camaro spent a lot of time locked away in a storage unit, and the cycles of summer heat and cold winters took a toll on the paint - causing splits in the filler that was used in copious amounts.

As fate would have it, Kyle with Laid Back Recreations had a nice small block 406 that came out of a C10 project he was doing he offered for sale and I bought it not knowing for sure what I would do with it at the time.

The 66 Buick Skylark that Kyle and I did really showed me how much fun these old cars can be when you get the pro touring goodies bolted in place. One day I'll get a full frame and LS in the Camaro, but for now the plan is to bolt in the 406 with a Fi-tech throttle body injection setup and couple that with a 700R4. A full RideTech HQ coil over set up will be used with 4 link and Tru Turn. A set of Detroit Speed mini tubs are going in to cover up a set of 19x12 Billet Specialties Wedge wheels.

Here's how "Darth" looked when I loaded him up for the trip to LBR

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps1mfrfhmj.jpg

Zoomin 07-02-2016 09:14 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
It's still a work in progress. The engine is in.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps215uoyni.jpg

Got the FiTech unit

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...pswoaazqor.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psxydzdiji.jpg


And the fuel tank from Tanks, Inc

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psyrd7ouni.jpg

jmking9 07-03-2016 09:47 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
I'll be following along. I've got a 68 that I'm planning on using a lot of the same parts. Post lots of pics!

Zoomin 07-03-2016 11:24 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmking9 (Post 7642816)
I'll be following along. I've got a 68 that I'm planning on using a lot of the same parts. Post lots of pics!

Very cool to have you aboard. Here's a pic you might find useful when you wire up your fuel sender and pump. I got these from Tanks too.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps2cqcz5ps.jpg

tune_1 07-04-2016 11:45 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Great to see another project and the work Kyle does. Looking forward to the rest.

Dwight

Zoomin 07-12-2016 12:14 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Installing the DSE tubs


Marked the areas to be cut...
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...C198B067DB.jpg


Look at how clean the inside of the frame rail is - was real happy to see that.
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...752C9E2DB6.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...3E35B8B133.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...163A2FF4DA.jpg


Old tub vs new, this gives an idea of the additional room

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...658136CF50.jpg

tommys72 07-12-2016 12:33 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
im gonna have to watch this one

Dieselwrencher 07-12-2016 05:32 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Very nice 69 Camaro! I have had a couple 69 Camaros but never got to drive either one before I sold them and now they are crazy money. Oh well, I'll just watch you improve yours! :lol:

Zoomin 07-12-2016 11:44 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 7651046)
Very nice 69 Camaro! I have had a couple 69 Camaros but never got to drive either one before I sold them and now they are crazy money. Oh well, I'll just watch you improve yours! :lol:

If only we could go back in time, right? :lol:

Got the tubs in place

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...5F6BB23D77.jpg

And with that done, we put the wheels in place so we could measure for the Quick Performance 9" rear. Got that order in, should have it next week.

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...FF59010E0B.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...67DD69A7EE.jpg

Dieselwrencher 07-14-2016 08:02 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
That rear end is coming from not too far from me. Great guys that do great work. They did the rear end in my Vette. You'll be happy with it!

Zoomin 07-14-2016 08:44 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dieselwrencher (Post 7653405)
That rear end is coming from not too far from me. Great guys that do great work. They did the rear end in my Vette. You'll be happy with it!

Yes they do - this is the second rear I've bought from them, and I really like that Mike gave me his personal cell number and told me to call if I had any questions. Super guy.

The Camaro had a rear end from a 79 Lincoln Versailles which I got because it was an easy way to get disk brakes, parking brakes and a narrowed rear end pretty cheap in one cheap package. Turns out I could get a new housing and axle package cheaper than narrowing this one, money better spent on upgrading to Wilwood 13".

Today Kyle's turned his attention to the front end. The front fender is off to have the paint repaired which makes this the perfect time to pull the suspension and engine. The engine is going to be repainted and the RideTech TruTurn system installed.


http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...048132C1_1.jpg


The brake booster and master are going to be replaced with a manual Wilwood unit.
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...412CF066_1.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...BFBB5C4166.jpg


Coil overs, Strong Arms, drop spindles installed.
http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...056B7333A1.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...960F69C9B6.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...86BEA5D9F8.jpg

tune_1 07-14-2016 11:50 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Looks great.

Dwight

trixter99 07-15-2016 12:59 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
What's up withe scratchy looking repair on the sub frame

CG 07-15-2016 10:23 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Id love to see a before shot of this car if you have one.

Zoomin 07-16-2016 11:39 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trixter99 (Post 7653699)
What's up withe scratchy looking repair on the sub frame

That was a mount for the bump stop. It got carved in half, and when Part Trois gets going Darth will likely get a subframe replacement.


Quote:

Originally Posted by CG (Post 7654605)
Id love to see a before shot of this car if you have one.

So would I! I'm going to have to dig deep to find one.



Here's a look at the brains of the TruTurn setup. The center link gets a brace that relocates the tie rods to eliminate bump steer, in conjunction with special steering arms and taller spindles. Really nice pieces.

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...54DA201B47.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...03F8A5C628.jpg


Here's a look at the side with the fender still on it. This isn't ride height, the lift won't go any lower.


http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...42FCADED_1.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...EC58E0CB6C.jpg

Advanced Design 07-17-2016 10:10 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Really nice upgrades going on with your Camaro and I am in to follow along for the rest.

Zoomin, I do have a question on the tank plumbing since the same tank is going in my build. Are the vents plumbed together? Is that a check valve on the hoses going to the vents?

Thank you!

Zoomin 07-17-2016 11:17 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Advanced Design (Post 7655749)
Really nice upgrades going on with your Camaro and I am in to follow along for the rest.

Zoomin, I do have a question on the tank plumbing since the same tank is going in my build. Are the vents plumbed together? Is that a check valve on the hoses going to the vents?

Thank you!

Hi Doug

Yes, the vents are plumbed together. The Y connector is supplied by Tanks with the fuel pump. No check valve, just a vent.

Zoomin 07-17-2016 01:37 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
A vent valve is included with the sender, to allow air in as fuel is used and to let air out as the tank is filled. It also will not let gas out of that line if upside down.

Advanced Design 07-17-2016 05:47 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Thanks Steve! Mine came from Tanks so the parts are probably in the box.

Zoomin 07-18-2016 12:14 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zoomin (Post 7655938)
A vent valve is included with the sender, to allow air in as fuel is used and to let air out as the tank is filled. It also will not let gas out of that line if upside down.

*** edit ***

The vent valve comes with the pump, not the sender.

aggie91 07-22-2016 05:20 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
I liked how this one started. But the upgrades are going to make it much nicer to drive.

Zoomin 07-24-2016 12:34 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Karl, I sure hope so! In the previous version, it was far more fun to take to an occasional car show than the drive getting there and back was. Looking forward to doing some power touring.

The rear end and axles from Quick Performance arrived this week. Kyle got the perches welded on so the Ride Tech four link installation is underway. Unfortunately some overzealous welding from the previous build has complicated things a bit. Kyle has to do some fabrication to the frame rails to get things to fit.

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...1796256869.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...66EF076BBA.jpg

youngrodder 07-24-2016 09:54 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Great looking car Zoomin..Check out Dutchboys Hotrods.
http://dutchboyshotrods.com/
It's my friends shop here in MI and they build primarily 1st gen Camaros. They use DSE goodies and the Joe (my friends dad and part owner) worked for DSE for a few years...

I dig your car. .

Marc

Zoomin 07-24-2016 08:08 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
I'm familiar with those guys, Marc. They do some awesome stuff for sure.

Zoomin 07-25-2016 10:52 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Kyle made some progress on installing the 4 link setup today. He had to weld on tabs for the rear sway bar

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...C534D64637.jpg

http://i858.photobucket.com/albums/a...7065A183AA.jpg

jmking9 07-26-2016 10:41 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
This project is looking great! You have excellent taste. I'm looking at ordering a 9inch from Quick Performance for my Chevelle. Which posi unit did you go with and why? Is there on that works better for a touring type car?

Zoomin 07-26-2016 11:04 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmking9 (Post 7665693)
This project is looking great! You have excellent taste. I'm looking at ordering a 9inch from Quick Performance for my Chevelle. Which posi unit did you go with and why? Is there on that works better for a touring type car?

Thanks!

Actually, on this project I'm reusing the 3rd member I already had when I put the Lincoln rear end in it so I just bought QP's housing and axle package. This one does have an Auburn posi in it and probably less than 2000 miles on it, and I just couldn't bring myself to just chunk it.

On another car I did I bought the complete package from QP and I went with the Tru Trac. Lockers and spools are used in drag race ng, not going around corners, clutch type posi units aren't really designed for hi horsepower applications so that left the Tru Trac. I also wanted them to put it together. Call Mike at QP, he's a great guy. Explain what you're trying to do and he'll make recommendations and explain why.

Zoomin 08-03-2016 04:50 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Finally got the correct axles in - I ordered the wrong spline count :(

Then found out the Camaro spring pads were interfering with the parking. Oh, the joys of making third party parts cooperate with each other. Anyway, Kyle made the necessary adjustments and got it done.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...pshpox3bfa.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psg8myecvb.jpg


So the Camaro is sitting on its own, not on the lift. Loving how it's sits now.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psce16ak9q.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps3dr8oypm.jpg

Advanced Design 08-03-2016 08:23 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Yep, very nice stance!

aggie91 08-04-2016 08:16 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Love that stance!

Zoomin 08-04-2016 08:00 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Thanks Doug and Karl!

Got another pic from Kyle today. He rolled the Camaro away from the lift today to make room for a pickup he's working on. You can get a better sense for the stance in this pic - and also that the camber needs adjustment badly.... No engine in it right now.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psr4tyu1zq.jpg

The tires on the front have the same section width (275) as what used to be on the back.

oldman3 08-04-2016 10:52 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Sweeeeet...Jim

69short 08-04-2016 11:24 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Wow! Beautiful car and perfect stance! I'm in love

swamp rat 08-05-2016 12:27 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Looks great!

jmking9 08-05-2016 10:48 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
I've been creepin on your build on Lateral-g. All I can say about the stance, and wheel/tire setup... PERFECT.

Dieselwrencher 08-08-2016 06:37 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
That looks awesome!

Zoomin 08-13-2016 12:30 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Kyle did his magic to the engine - painted and got it installed.

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...pshjhxs4xc.jpg


http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...psryzpbgj5.jpg


http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ps79zikffe.jpg

Advanced Design 08-13-2016 11:37 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Very nice...the engine look is really dialed in. Perfect!

VA accessory drive?

Zoomin 08-13-2016 05:58 PM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
Thanks Doug!

Yessir, Vintage Air. Really top notch stuff.

screaminchevypickup 08-14-2016 11:48 AM

Re: 69 Camaro Part Deaux
 
It's a billetspecialties tru trac


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