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justKIDn 02-15-2021 07:29 PM

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I've been lurking around here since 2017, when I picked this truck up as a father/son project with the end result being my boy’s daily driver when he turned 16 in October of 2020. I've finally decided to start a build thread while stuck inside during this "ice storm".

justKIDn 02-15-2021 07:37 PM

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It’s a 1970 C20 LWB with a 350 V8 and a TH350 transmission. It has a Dana 60 rearend with a 4.10 ratio. It was optioned with air conditioning, power steering and power brakes. It wasn’t running and hadn’t since 1996.

justKIDn 02-15-2021 07:46 PM

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The boy and his mom went for a “ride” when we got it home. She’s showing him how his girlfriend would ride next to him one day. (He had never seen a bench seat before!)

justKIDn 02-15-2021 07:50 PM

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It was in fairly good shape for a 48 year old truck having the traditional rust in the rockers and cab corners, which I consider to be pretty easy fixes. There is however, one spot above the windshield that I’m pretty sure will be kind of challenging.

justKIDn 02-15-2021 08:04 PM

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Our plan is to get it mechanically sound. Running and driving, safe and reliable. We rebuilt the engine, adding some power of course, with some stuff I had lying around. (turns out a broken rocker arm stud is why it hasn’t run since 1996) The auto transmission is going to be swapped out for a stick (that’s what the boy wants), the front brakes will be upgraded from drums to discs, and the whole suspension will be brought to like new condition. We’re keeping the ¾ ton suspension as our family hobby is drag racing. I know that before the boy is out of high school, there will be some sort of racecar on a trailer, in tow!

justKIDn 02-15-2021 08:12 PM

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Earlier I mentioned that this was a father/son project, Well, father is the master and son is the student. He is the worker and I'm the helper. By him taking ownership of this project, I think it’ll help him learn to shoulder some responsibility and hopefully get him to put the damn phone down! Fingers crossed, time will tell. Summer of 2018, the teardown begins.

justKIDn 02-15-2021 08:38 PM

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More tear down pics...

justKIDn 02-15-2021 09:18 PM

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I brought the engine to a local machine shop and the block and crank checked out ok. We punched it out a little and upgraded the cam and valve train.

justKIDn 02-15-2021 10:07 PM

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I’m replacing the heads with a set of Dart Iron Eagle heads and the intake with an Edelbrock Performer Air Gap, both left over from old projects. I’ve decided we’re going to replace the carburetor with a Holley Sniper system for more reliability, better drivability.

justKIDn 02-15-2021 10:13 PM

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Well, it had been over a year since we touched the truck. My daughter aged out of the jr dragsters and stepped up to a big car. I bought her an older dragster, had the engine freshened, and backed it into my garage one weekend in February of 2019 to put the freshened engine back in and get it ready to go racing. Well after finding some serious wiring problems and some cracks on one of the motor plates, that weekend in my garage turned into a year to make it ready for my daughter to go racing.

justKIDn 02-15-2021 10:26 PM

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In that time, I found on Facebook Marketplace, a cab for sale locally so I went check it out. It’s got no vin tag, not much firewall left and had been cannibalized somewhat, but it had a solid A pillar to upper windshield piece which I needed. It was worth the $100 to me so I took it home.

justKIDn 02-15-2021 10:33 PM

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Fast forward to July 2020 and the boy (KaCee) and I get back to work to continue stripping the truck, by removing the cab, with some help from my dad. I built a dolly to put the cab on, and was going to build something to lift the cab with my engine lift, but realized I have access to overhead cranes at work so I figured that was way easier.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 12:28 AM

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Once the cab was out of the way, KaCee goes to work on the chassis, tearing it down as well as wire wheeling it.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 12:35 AM

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The wire wheeling on the frame proved to be somewhat ineffective against the thick undercoating. We enlisted the help of Richard at Blastworks LLC. to come and clean the chassis up for us, as well as misc. suspension parts.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 01:03 PM

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We then put 2 coats of primer and 2 coats of paint on everything blasted.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 01:16 PM

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KaCee’s also been cleaning up and painting all the suspension pieces, both new and old.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 01:21 PM

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We tore the peg leg Dana 60 down, and added a Yukon Gear & Axle Dura Grip positraction carrier from Summit, leaving the 4.10 ratio in place.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 01:43 PM

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And hung the rearend on new 3” drop springs from Eaton-Detroit Springs.

68Gold/white 02-16-2021 01:50 PM

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I like all the family "do'ins"!!!
I wonder if the it might be better to just cut the entire top off the donor cab, and graft it onto yours???

justKIDn 02-16-2021 03:20 PM

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Here is where we ran into our first roadblock. The front spring eyes on our new drop springs didn’t quite fit into the hangers, so I did a lil grinding to slide them into place. I got the springs in but ground thru the hanger in a couple of spots, and they still didn’t fit correctly. So I left it for now to do some thinking.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 03:37 PM

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In the meantime, we moved on to the front end. We installed POL drop spindles and converted to 1971 C20 upper control arms and lower ball joints to add disc brakes. To tie 1970 and 1971 together, we’re using 1971 outer tie rod ends as outers, 1970 outer tie rod ends as inners and POL’s High Performance tie rod adjusting sleeves to connect them together.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 03:49 PM

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KaCee had some help from his girlfriend packing the front wheel bearings and he hung the rotors and calipers.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 03:54 PM

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Because we converted the front end to 1971 disc brakes, the wheel studs on the rotors are 9/16”. To keep from having 9/16” lug nuts in the front and ½” in the back, we pressed out the ½” studs, drilled out the holes in the hubs, pressed in new 9/16” wheel studs and hit the hubs with some primer and paint.

BC10 02-16-2021 04:03 PM

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This is awesome! Can wait to see how this all takes shape.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 04:05 PM

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After a couple of days of thinking and online shopping for something to solve my problem, that now I don’t think exists, I decided to modify the spring hangers to accept my new springs.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 04:14 PM

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More pics of my hanger mods

justKIDn 02-16-2021 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 68Gold/white (Post 8881158)
I like all the family "do'ins"!!!
I wonder if the it might be better to just cut the entire top off the donor cab, and graft it onto yours???

We do almost everything together. The family that plays together stays together. :lol:
The only bad spot on the roof is that bad spot where the drip rail gap is. I'm going to attempt a patch first, worse case I'll have to do more if I butcher it up.

justKIDn 02-16-2021 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BC10 (Post 8881222)
This is awesome! Can wait to see how this all takes shape.

Thanks. Me Too! HaHaHa!

cornerstone 02-16-2021 05:08 PM

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I’m pretty sure I was born into the wrong family. Y’all have any room left in the house for 1 more? I don’t eat much and I’ll keep my room real clean! :metal:

justKIDn 02-16-2021 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cornerstone (Post 8881245)
I’m pretty sure I was born into the wrong family. Y’all have any room left in the house for 1 more? I don’t eat much and I’ll keep my room real clean! :metal:

I could use the help, gotta finish this truck and one more racecar to put together for the boy, then I can get back to work on my junk.

Racer2172 02-19-2021 11:56 AM

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Nice work so far, keep it up.

justKIDn 02-20-2021 09:38 AM

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Nice work so far, keep it up.

Thanks!

justKIDn 02-20-2021 10:54 AM

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Time for another update. We finally got the axle housing in place, and we started assembling it. We replaced the complete rear braking system with all new parts from NAPA and a stainless steel brake line kit from GMCPAULS. KaCee even got some help from his big sis while building the brakes.

justKIDn 02-20-2021 11:02 AM

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KaCee had a grease party when a couple of his racing buddies were over for the weekend. They packed bearings and installed the rear hubs and axles.

justKIDn 02-20-2021 11:15 AM

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The big brown truck dropped off our anti theft device a couple of weeks ago. :lol:
This catches me up on progress. Hoping to drop the engine and transmission in this weekend.
Waiting on the arrival of the new fuel tank to install in the frame and run all of the fuel lines.

88Stanger 02-21-2021 11:41 AM

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That is so awesome to have project like this to do with your son and your daughter to go racing... awesome

justKIDn 02-22-2021 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by 88Stanger (Post 8883397)
That is so awesome to have project like this to do with your son and your daughter to go racing... awesome

Thanks.

Ol Blue K20 02-23-2021 12:29 PM

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I'm jumping on board..I'm adoptable too.......;)

justKIDn 03-11-2021 02:52 PM

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I'm jumping on board..I'm adoptable too.......;)

Ha! I can use all you adoptees, coming up on tax time!:lol:

Haven't done too much on our ole blue lately, been getting the racecars ready for the '21 season, but we're about to get back on it. Our new gas tank from Holley came in, we've got it mocked up and now we're waiting on the rest of the fittings to come in. Next step is gonna be to install the engine and transmission into the chassis, secure the tank and run all of our fuel lines. We're also planning on keeping the saddle tanks, but with a twist, details on that later.

justKIDn 06-01-2021 02:06 PM

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Time for another update on ole blue, it’s been a while. So while waiting for the fittings to be shipped (waiting on everything these days ain’t we) KaCee just had to see what it looked like with wheels mounted. He hauled in the old wheels (still have 1996 air in them) mounted them up.


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